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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8877551)

First of all, no. I'm no Cassel supporter. He lacks Manning's savviness and general skill overall. But to claim that a healthy Cassel is 40% of what Manning is after sitting out a year with multiple neck surgery, and by all accounts having 60% of the armstrength he formerly had is preposterous. Even saying that he is 40% of a healthy Manning is a stretch. The dude doesn't throw laserbeams and throw undroppable balls. I would say that a healthy Cassel is close to 65-70% of a Manning in his prime.

Casshole in his prime, (meaning he's capable of putting his cap on in one swipe) wouldn't start if Manning had a bone protruding through his neck. Our most accurate QB wasn't drafted and is currently sitting on IR. If Pioli wants to win games, start Quinn and cut our losses with MC after the season.

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8877551)

:spock: :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8877550)

GOOD GRAVY.

IF YOU MAKE CARR A FAIR OFFER THE YEAR BEFORE, THERE'S LITERALLY NO CHANCE HE TURNS IT DOWN IN THE HOPE THAT ONE SPECIFIC TEAM OUT OF 31 OTHER TEAMS MAKES HIM A HUGE OFFER.

Or, we can all decide to just continue ignoring logic and make excuses, as has been done since the day Carr signed in Dallas.

Who the **** said they didn't?

They extended Flowers, DJ and Charles while they still had more than one year left on their current contract/team rights to player.

Also...Carr didn't look very good until his last year here.

Did he show "potential"? for sure.

Did he show any consistency of good play worthy of giving him a long term deal where he would be getting the money you are talking about?

Not really..and Ive been a fan of the kid since before we drafted him.

The list of players Pioli has treated well in contract negotiations is getting quite long and the list of players he has lost to free agency (that it hurts losing) is basically 1.

Actually...its still 0 because we haven't even seen Routt as our #2 (RCB), yet...in a real game.

For all we know, Brandon Carr looks in over his head in Dallas and gets cut in a couple years because of his cost.

Carr was great in 2010 what the hell are you talking about?

I think you all are unaware how subtle the differences are between what makes a guy a good quarterback and what makes a guy an average quarterback. The good ones aren't wizards. They're human and still make mistakes. And the average QBs aren't completely inept. Physically speaking there is very little difference between players at this level. Its a matter of mental makeup.

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8880051)

Physically speaking there is very little difference between players at this level. Its a matter of mental makeup.

Little difference between Stafford's arm and Cassel's? Peyton Manning's mobility and Cam Newton? Brees' accuracy and Cassel's?

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8880062)

Little difference between Stafford's arm and Cassel's? Peyton Manning's mobility and Cam Newton? Brees' accuracy and Cassel's?

Nobody has all those attributes though. The key is that those quarterbacks make the most of their talent. I'm not sure what Cassel's biggest talent is. I think if you gave all his attributes a number, they would be pretty mediocre across the board.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8880062)

Little difference between Stafford's arm and Cassel's? Peyton Manning's mobility and Cam Newton? Brees' accuracy and Cassel's?

So Stafford's bomb has 5 yards more to it than Cassels? As much as we have given QBs shit for not being capable of throwing a pass over 30 yards, these guys are all physically capable of throwing it about the same. Remember when Brees was in San Diego and we said we only needed to guard the first 30 yards of the field? Brees wasn't as bad as we thought.

Accuracy, by definition, is a matter of small increments.

And Cam Newton is an Athlete who just happens to play QB. Plus, Peyton is old, and was never a fast guy in the first place. The things that separate the Good from the Average are incredibly small physiological differences, but huge psychological differences.

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 8880101)

Yeah, nonsense. Stafford's arm is better than Cassel's in every conceivable way. Distance, velocity, accuracy, you name it.

League, union have different cap numbers

Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2012, 9:48 AM EDT
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At a time when the NFL and the NFLPA rarely agree on anything, it should be no surprise that their respective versions of the cap numbers are different, too.
We posted on Monday the team-by-team numbers via a source with knowledge of the NFLPA version of the calculations. The league has its own numbers, with multiple discrepancies.

The biggest gap comes in Kansas City. The NFLPA numbers show that the Chiefs have $26.6 million in space. The league has the Chiefs at nearly $16.4 million.
At the other end of the spectrum, the union shows that the Bills have $7.9 million in space. The league has the Bills at more than $15.6 million.

The full list of the league’s cap numbers as of Tuesday appear after the jump.

Jaguars: $25.2 million.
Eagles: $22.4 million.
Browns: $17.8 million.
Titans: $17.5 million.
Seahawks: $16.6 million.
Buccaneers: $16.5 million.
Chiefs: $16.3 million.
Bills: $15.6 million.
Bengals: $15.3 million.
Broncos: $14.3 million.
Patriots: $12.9 million.
Packers: $11.6 million.
Cardinals: $11.1 million.
Vikings: $11.0 million.
Colts: $10.6 million.
Redskins $9.3 million.
Panthers: $9.2 million.
Saints: $8.9 million.
Cowboys: $8.2 million.
Jets: $8.0 million.
Dolphins: $7.2 million.
Giants: $7.2 million.
Raiders: $5.9 million.
Bears: $5.9 million.
Ravens: $5.6 million.
Rams: $4.9 million.
Steelers: $4.7 million.
Chargers: $4.4 million.
Falcons: $3.9 million.
49ers: $3.5 million.
Texans: $2.7 million.
Lions: $2.3 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-cap-numbers/

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8880111)

Yeah, nonsense. Stafford's arm is better than Cassel's in every conceivable way. Distance, velocity, accuracy, you name it.

The difference between Stafford's arm and Cassel's is like the difference between the average white guy's cock and Lexington Steele's.