Not sure how you came to that conclusion (guys I want coaching my team).

I don't want any of those guys coaoching my team.

The only guy that has been mentioned in this thread that I would consider is Billick, because he showed an ability to adapt to his team's strengths that none of the others ever did.

I also don't believe that Dungy did as much to develop SB teams as the perception, since both the Bucs and Colts had the core groups in place before he was hired.

That's fine, but the Buccaneers were basically the Royals of the NFL before he arrived there. You can't discredit that.
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If I owned that team, I'd work a severance out. Reid needs to siddown.

Well, that's obviously a personal decision, but its got to be tough to be a successful NFL head coach and devote time to your kids as well.
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My point is that I'm looking from the 10,000 foot view and total body of work. You're not weighting as heavily as I am for overall record and postseason success.

That argument doesn't fly for me. Dungy was in Tampa 6 years and the Bucs won the SB the year he left. If that team wasn't developed by Dungy then who developed it? Same argument for Indy - Dungy was there 4 years and they won it all his 5th year. You think Dungy's fingerprints weren't all over that team in 5 years despite the fact Harrison and Manning predated Dungy's arrival?

I give Dungy credit just because the Bucs had been bad for so long... that was a place where there really was a culture of losing, kind of like the Royals have had. He really did have to change the mindset of that entire franchise.

Out of the four coaches I'd go

1. Billick
2. Marty
3. Dungy
4. Ditka

Ditka is last for the reasons you just mentioned, which are spot on IMO. I already gave my say on Dungy earlier. I absolutely HATE putting Billick above Marty, take out one year and Marty's body of work/accomplishments is at least double that of Billick's.

Billick won a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer as his QB though. so, by default, he goes straight to number 1. a few other home field advantage/afl championship appearances didnt hurt either

Maybe there should be a seperate category for Marty? He truly is one of the best "regular season" HC's of all time, maybe the best. He definately had a knack for turning dead franchises around.

the way he lost his playoff games really does borderline on a curse -

3 missed field goals in one game
a phantom non call push out of bounds
a pass intercepted on 4th down and fumbled away with the lead and less than 2 minutes
the drive

not saying he doesnt take responsibility but damn...the last one against NE in SD was just vomit inducing for a Marty fan

And yet Cassel still lives...

Well some of that was bad luck like the Byner fumble in Cleveland.....but alot of it is his play not to lose mentality. He plays for FGs when he should have been playing for TDs.