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DeezNutz 02-04-2009 10:38 PM

McCoy is 165 lbs. Dripping wet.

ChiefsCountry 02-04-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 5459262)
This. The real question is why do some Chiefs fans believe that Stafford (who will be gone) or Sanchez are the franchise QB?

Why do I believe Stafford and Sanchez are franchise guys. I will tell you why. I was not on the Stafford bandwagon at all to start the year. His sophomore year did not impress me at all. I wanted Bradford instead. It was after the 3rd game of the season against South Carolina, I made a vow to watch him and see if my opinion would change. It did. I watched every single stinking Georgia Bulldog game from then on out. He was impressive. He has the arm, the size, the leadership skills. Georgia was also very young up front and at receiver. Stafford led that team. It was his team. Yes Florida and Alabama beat them bad, but it was that Bama game where I really liked him. They were done and out and led a respectful comeback against the Tide. Stafford just reminds me of how Elway used to play.

Now to Sanchez, most of us thought he wouldnt come out but he was the one everybody had pegged for the top guy in 2010. I watched a ton of USC games mainly to look at their defense guys which is where that team was stacked not offense. I saw a guy who was the leader of that team. USC's line wasnt very good. He got nailed in the grill alot, but his biggest plays were when he was flushed from the pocket and made a strike. He has the arm, the swagger, the smarts you want from a franchise QB. Troy Aikman is who he reminds me of.

boogblaster 02-04-2009 10:39 PM

If one is there take him ... if not DE-OL-LB-etc all need help ...

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-04-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 5459353)
Potential | Po-Ten-Chel |
adjective [attrib.]

You currently suck. You might be good sometime in the future:
Darth Carl Satan has the potential to be an average poster

He also has the potential to put his foot your ass, whelp!

Rain Man 02-04-2009 10:40 PM

Are there seriously people who say that we shouldn't draft a quarterback, aside from some people who might like Thigpen?

I think some folks have created a myth that others don't want a quarterback just because they didn't want to tank games this season. I doubt that there are many people at all who don't see the value of a quarterback.

Sanka 02-04-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5459428)
Uh, McCoy plays in the spread.

Sanchez and Stafford play in Pro-Style offenses.

McCoy will have a HUGE learning curve and will need to learn how to effectively play under center.

Furthermore, please explain how Texas, year in and year out, is in the top 5 of recruiting, but their receivers aren't as good as those at Georgia & USC.

That doesn't make any sense.

I'm and idiot leave me alone. But I'd still rather have McCoy over Sanchez or Stafford.

1. McCoy
2. Stafford
3. Sanchez

DeezNutz 02-04-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5459464)
Are there seriously people who say that we shouldn't draft a quarterback, aside from some people who might like Thigpen?

I think some folks have created a myth that others don't want a quarterback just because they didn't want to tank games this season. I doubt that there are many people at all who don't see the value of a quarterback.

They're called "No QB in round 1 unless he's a 'lock'" folks. But they're all for a QB in rounds 4-7.

Good luck finding that "lock."

ChiefsCountry 02-04-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5459436)
I think you missed his point.

Never pass on a potential franchise QB.

That really wasnt my point. My point is to take the talent where its the highest value ie WR in 07, LT in 08, QB in 09, Defense in 10.

Sanka 02-04-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5459448)
McCoy is 165 lbs. Dripping wet.

McCoy is listed at 6'3 215!

DeezNutz 02-04-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 5459508)
McCoy is listed at 6'3 215!

Ok. So I am guilty of hyperbole.

175.

Croyle 2.0.

DaneMcCloud 02-04-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5459493)
That really wasnt my point. My point is to take the talent where its the highest value ie WR in 07, LT in 08, QB in 09, Defense in 10.

Oops:redface:

DaneMcCloud 02-04-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 5459486)
I'm and idiot leave me alone. But I'd still rather have McCoy over Sanchez or Stafford.

1. McCoy
2. Stafford
3. Sanchez

Help....I've....fallen.....and.....can't..............................................uh............ ..............

Cormac 02-04-2009 10:57 PM

Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order:

1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one
2) we have many holes to fill
3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that.
4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft
5) Todd Blackledge
6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE?
7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick?
8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need?
9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions
10) Todd Blackledge
11) See #1

Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.

Rain Man 02-04-2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 5459508)
McCoy is listed at 6'3 215!


Maybe he was dripping in gravy.

RealSNR 02-04-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5459436)
I think you missed his point.

Never pass on a potential franchise QB.

What I got from his post was that Sanchez and Stafford weren't potential franchise QB material.


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