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Ebolapox 01-11-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5381272)
It's not really an either/or question. Randy Moss makes it more complex than that. If you put Randy Moss with a very good to great QB, he's the best WR in the league bar none. No one changes a game from the outside like Randy Moss. He makes it easier for everyone on offense.

If you don't have a great QB though, I would take Fitzgerald. And Owens doesn't belong anywhere near this discussion anymore. He has lost several steps.

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RUSH 01-11-2009 08:43 PM

Tough question. Johnson or Fitz hmmmmm. I would have to go with Fitz by a very small margin.

Deberg_1990 01-11-2009 08:53 PM

LaFitz is the modern day Lynn Swann

EyePod 01-11-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5380142)
Moss has better big play potential but I don't think he has better hands, I don't think he runs better routes, and he most certainly isn't as dedicated to the 'little' things...

But yeah, arguments can easily be made for Fitz, Andre Johnson and Randy Moss...maybe Terrell Owens as well. Those have to be the elite four...and no one else really comes close to their tier.

You forgot Steve Smith. He punches people and it brings his teams together. And you have to say that he's better because of his lack of height. But right now, it's Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz, and Steve Smith in my book.

Iowanian 01-11-2009 09:40 PM

No one else is even in his league for ability nor effort.


Dbowe should go spend the summer with #11 and a Jugs machine.

EyePod 01-11-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 5381493)
See I was thinking.. What he would do if he would not drop so many ****ing easy balls or onside kicks..

He fumbled that onside kick. Also, his drops are iffy. Look who was throwing to him. I think he makes up for it easily. He's not even our number 1 threat, and he got the millennium mark.

Iowanian 01-11-2009 09:44 PM

Moss has big play ability, but he loses ground quickly for the plays he takes off, his lack of downfield blocking and his effort.

Andre Johnson is the closest contender...he's pretty damn awsome too.

Mecca 01-11-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5381718)
He fumbled that onside kick. Also, his drops are iffy. Look who was throwing to him. I think he makes up for it easily. He's not even our number 1 threat, and he got the millennium mark.

You do understand what Calvin Johnson is doing on an even worse team yes?

DJ's left nut 01-11-2009 10:04 PM

Fitz doesn't get quite enough separation for me to be able to call him the absolute best, at least without question. Many of those body control catches area result of guys hanging all over him b/c he wasn't able to separate.

I like Andre Johnson just a little more, but Fitz isn't far behind at all.

Rigodan 01-11-2009 10:13 PM

I can't argue with Fitzgerald as the best but I think Steve Smith is right there with him. It seems like the guy has had 2 or 3 absolutely insane catches this year in the 4th quater that were pivotal to his team winning that game. All around Fitzgerald is probably the best but I'm in awe of Smith's playmaking ability

KCCHIEFS27 01-11-2009 10:32 PM

Fitzgerald and Johnson have receivers across from them(Boldin/Breaston for the Cards and Walter/Daniels for the Texans) to take away some of the coverage. Smith only has Muhammad, but he was near the 1000 yard mark, plus he's paired with one hell of a running game. Now, Calvin Johnson has NOBODY to draw coverage away from him. A Delhomme,Warner or Schaub sounds a whole lot better than a Orlovsky/Stanton/Culpepper combo.

BWillie 01-11-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27 (Post 5381856)
Fitzgerald and Johnson have receivers across from them(Boldin/Breaston for the Cards and Walter/Daniels for the Texans) to take away some of the coverage. Smith only has Muhammad, but he was near the 1000 yard mark, plus he's paired with one hell of a running game. Now, Calvin Johnson has NOBODY to draw coverage away from him. A Delhomme,Warner or Schaub sounds a whole lot better than a Orlovsky/Stanton/Culpepper combo.

Somebody has to catch the ball for Detroit. And you pretty much have to throw all the damn time if you lose sixteen games in a row. Calvin Johnson may end up being in the same category as Fitzgerald, Moss and co, but not right now. If you go 0-16 you deserve what you get.

rashid242 01-12-2009 12:11 AM

Correct.
 
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5380390)
9.5 is pretty leniant. I'd give him a 12. He may be the best deep threat WR in the history of the NFL.

I can't find the quote from the article this year from Lito Sheppard of the Eagles.

Lito said you can debate who is the best but in his & some of the fellow db's around say Randy Moss is the most feared in the NFL.

He said "It's kind of like when Barry Sanders played. He's the guy that can embarrass you the most. Either by just running by a corner & outjumping a safety or just outrunning the corner & safety all together in a Cover 2."

I will never forget that quote. The best complement you can ever get.

As the poster said before. He's not just a deep threat. He's the best deep threat in the HISTORY of th NFL hands down.

RedThat 01-12-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5380593)
Nothing angry about it.

He's the best, and you're calling me angry for agreeing with you...

It's really not even close, IMO.

No offense to you, but youre just acting like a dick.

He asked a really simple and good question and you make him seem like a dumbass for it.

That wasn't a stupid question btw...Its really a tough call between guys like him and Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Calvin Johnson and others.

Joe Seahawk 01-12-2009 12:28 AM

I think so.. Boldin is no slouch either.. :doh!:


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