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TrebMaxx 09-21-2008 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042271)
How about the Cowboys, for starters?

Undrafted QB.

Pro Bowler.

1-AA player.

Sat on the bench for 3+ years.

How about Gus Ferrote in Washington, now the starter in Minnesota? How about Matt Hasslebeck and Marc Bulger, two 6th round picks?

Need I continue, Funny Man?
What you are saying is basically what I am saying. But where is the coaching for KC? Romo obviously received coaching. Lots of lower round QB's succeed in the league with the proper coaching either with sitting out for a few years or being thrown into the fire because of necessity. What I am saying is Dick Curl is not getting it done, Curl has no business in the NFL. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Coach 09-21-2008 07:14 PM
I guess I fail to understand why people want Damon "Quitter" Huard to start over Thigpen.

I also wonder why people keep bashing Thigpen, yet it was obvious that he showed remarkable improvement in the 2nd half, compared to the first half. Yes, he throws INT's and some balls shouldn't be thrown into some coverages, but Thigpen is a 2nd year player. Damon Huard makes the same mistakes and he's been in the league for some 13 years.

TrebMaxx 09-21-2008 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5042288)
To be fair to Thigpen, I really don't think there are too many 3rd string QB's sitting around the league who people would expect to come in and play very well. A lot of teams don't even have a 2nd stringer people would expect to play well.

On the flipside, he definitely can't be going 14-36 passing every week from here on out or we probably won't win a game. But hopefully Croyle will be back and we won't have to worry about it.
Exactly, most would receive the proper coaching to overcome improper fundamentals. Dick Curl needs to be gone...now! I don't have expectations for our young QB's to go all pro in a week but the way all of them have played should reflect on the coaching. Hell they had all off season and Brodie still sucked like a rookie before he was hurt.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 5042745)
What you are saying is basically what I am saying. But where is the coaching for KC? Romo obviously received coaching. Lots of lower round QB's succeed in the league with the proper coaching either with sitting out for a few years or being thrown into the fire because of necessity. What I am saying is Dick Curl is not getting it done, Curl has no business in the NFL. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
How do you know "that he's not getting it done"?

It took Romo 3 Freaking YEARS to step foot on the field.

Thigpen has been forced in YEAR 2. GAME 2.

There's no way to compare.

It's not an absolute.

TrebMaxx 09-21-2008 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042860)
How do you know "that he's not getting it done"?

It took Romo 3 Freaking YEARS to step foot on the field.

Thigpen has been forced in YEAR 2. GAME 2.

There's no way to compare.

It's not an absolute.
Do I even need to respond to this? What the hell are you watching? Are you related to Dick Curl or something? I am not saying Thigpin should be all pro but the fundamentals should be better. Look at what has happened with our QB's since Herm came in and D. Curl became the QB coach. Jeeze, I can't believe you are defending this guy. I bet the next coach you will be touting is the ST coach who should be gone too.

BigRedChief 09-21-2008 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5042765)
I guess I fail to understand why people want Damon "Quitter" Huard to start over Thigpen.

I also wonder why people keep bashing Thigpen, yet it was obvious that he showed remarkable improvement in the 2nd half, compared to the first half. Yes, he throws INT's and some balls shouldn't be thrown into some coverages, but Thigpen is a 2nd year player. Damon Huard makes the same mistakes and he's been in the league for some 13 years.
I don't want Quitter to start either. I wanted a solid NFL basckup. A "real" one like Joey Harrington or Phil Simms as a stop gap till Crouyle gets back. Huard or thigpin will never be our future so there is no backpeddling on rebuilding.

DaneMcCloud 09-22-2008 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 5043162)
Do I even need to respond to this? What the hell are you watching? Are you related to Dick Curl or something? I am not saying Thigpin should be all pro but the fundamentals should be better. Look at what has happened with our QB's since Herm came in and D. Curl became the QB coach. Jeeze, I can't believe you are defending this guy. I bet the next coach you will be touting is the ST coach who should be gone too.
You're a dumb****.

Dumb. ****.

Please explain to me how at 7th round, waived player who's played against 1-AA competition is supposed to perform at a higher level than Thigpen has after being forced into a starting role.

Better yet, dipshit, please cite a similar incident. Stats, QB coach, and QB.

Or better yet, SHUT THE **** UP.

MOhillbilly 09-22-2008 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5043654)
You're a dumb****.

Dumb. ****.

Please explain to me how at 7th round, waived player who's played against 1-AA competition is supposed to perform at a higher level than Thigpen has after being forced into a starting role.

Better yet, dipshit, please cite a similar incident. Stats, QB coach, and QB.

Or better yet, SHUT THE **** UP.

chill the **** out.

mlyonsd 09-22-2008 12:06 PM
I got the impression early on Thigpen figured out if he threw a good pass and hit his guy in the hands they'd drop it so switching to scattergun was just an attempt to make his receivers happy.

Chief Faithful 09-22-2008 12:18 PM
Frankie,

It made no sense to me why Huard or Pigpen was even on the roster at start of preseason. I saw nothing in preseason that helped me see why Herm kept these guys. But, Herm sees these guys every day and has been in the NFL a long time so I assumed there was something I'm not seeing.

After yesterday I'm still not a Huard or Pigpen fan, but at least I started to see the ability that Herm, Gannon and Dawson spoke about the previous week. So I say until Croyle comes back let Pigpen play. He may turn out to be another Tony Romo for all I know. What I do know is Huard will not be on this team when rebuilding is completed so I see absolutely no reason for him to start.

CoMoChief 09-22-2008 01:43 PM
Jake Plummer is more accurate than Tyler Thigpen.

That outa shrink some of your chocolate stars

CoMoChief 09-22-2008 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5043204)
I don't want Quitter to start either. I wanted a solid NFL basckup. A "real" one like Joey Harrington or Phil Simms as a stop gap till Crouyle gets back. Huard or thigpin will never be our future so there is no backpeddling on rebuilding.
JOEY ****ING HARRINGTON?!?!?!?!? lol are you serious.

Some people on this board........Jesus Christ......:shake:

CoMoChief 09-22-2008 01:53 PM
Id rather have Jake Plummer on this team than Tyler Pigpen.

Micjones 09-22-2008 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5041720)
What the **** is the point of playing Huard? Come on, Mic. Tell us.
I've said this time and time again.
This team produces offensively with him at the helm.
That helps establish young offensive players more than 6 consecutive possessions where we could not obtain 1 first down.

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Tyler Thigpen is young player who put the Chiefs in a position to score 4 times in his second start and scored twice.
He has a 38.3 QB Rating. He's thrown 4 Interceptions and could conceivably have thrown 3 more. In 2 weeks he's thrown more than a dozen passes that defenders have had their hands on.

This is the guy you're clamoring for?
Every NFL analyst worth his salt is baffled by Herm's allegiance to a QB who obviously isn't ready to play at this level.

Huard did NOT get hurt.
But if you'd rather pretend he did to solidify the argument for a bottom-feeder QB who doesn't deserve a roster spot on a team as bad as this one... Be my guest.

DaneMcCloud 09-22-2008 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5044923)
I've said this time and time again.
This team produces offensively with him at the helm.
That helps establish young offensive players more than 6 consecutive possessions where we could not obtain 1 first down.



He has a 38.3 QB Rating. He's thrown 4 Interceptions and could conceivably have thrown 3 more. In 2 weeks he's thrown more than a dozen passes that defenders have had their hands on.

This is the guy you're clamoring for?
Every NFL analyst worth his salt is baffled by Herm's allegiance to a QB who obviously isn't ready to play at this level.

Huard did NOT get hurt.
But if you'd rather pretend he did to solidify the argument for a bottom-feeder QB who doesn't deserve a roster spot on a team as bad as this one... Be my guest.
Regardless of his QB rating or what the talking heads have to say, Thigpen drove his team down the field twice and scored touchdowns yesterday and put them in a position to score twice more. He's grown from last week.

And you want to bench that guy in favor of a 35-year-old Never Was with a noodle arm? Seriously?

Huard wouldn't have last 3 series yesterday against that pass rush. Thigpen's running and escapability yesterday is what gave the Chiefs a chance to score.


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