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Mecca 09-05-2008 05:05 PM

Because I frankly don't think Tamba Hali is good enough to beat LT's very often?

And Dorsey will get doubles because 1 he has talent, 2 even as a rookie teams will see hes the most talented player on the line and 3 I doubt they will have any fear of the ends.

FAX 09-05-2008 05:29 PM

I have an idea for Hali.

If his job is to get some sacks. Get some sacks.

FAX

el borracho 09-05-2008 07:43 PM

This year should be telling. Hopefully, we draft a DE in the 1st or 2nd next year because, so far, Hali doesn't look like a guy that I would even try to re-sign after his rookie contract. He's basically Jimmy Wilkerson with more playing time.

BIG K 09-05-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 4983585)
This year should be telling. Hopefully, we draft a DE in the 1st or 2nd next year because, so far, Hali doesn't look like a guy that I would even try to re-sign after his rookie contract. He's basically Jimmy Wilkerson with more playing time.

So far, I have to agree with you. Hali has flashes but.... Hermone keeps saying that it took JA four years to develop and we should give Hali the same time to develop. I believe JA was picked up as a long snapper and then turned into a DE out of despair....Did not Hali spend his entire time as a DE? The learning curve should be quicker, no?

FAX 09-06-2008 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 4983888)
So far, I have to agree with you. Hali has flashes but.... Hermone keeps saying that it took JA four years to develop and we should give Hali the same time to develop. I believe JA was picked up as a long snapper and then turned into a DE out of despair....Did not Hali spend his entire time as a DE? The learning curve should be quicker, no?

Excellent point there, Mr. BIG K.

It seems to me that JA became a sackmaster out of sheer, unadulterated, want-to and energy. He had a kind of Wildman of the Apes attitude about him and, although his technique (particularly in his first year or so) left something to be desired, he got the job done simply by being a little crazier than the guy in front of him.

Hali was touted as having a non-stop motor when he was drafted. That may be true, but he either hasn't developed his technique to the point that he can out-finesse his man or he doesn't have that "nutso" quality that you need to plant the quarterback when two or three giant guys are trying their best to stop you.

At this point, I have grave doubts about The Mamba's ability to live up to his draft day hype.

FAX

Rausch 09-06-2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4983124)
I really don't understand how anyone can look at that guy and how he's played for the last 2 years and think he's going to get drastically better, which is basically what some are saying.

Guys who's biggest knocks are being physically maxed out without much upside don't get drastically better.

On this we agree.

He doesn't play strong and he doesn't use his limited strength well.

I think he'd be great as a rotational player out of the nickel or dime but not a 3 down DE...

milkman 09-06-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4983150)
Well, it might have to do with his being healthy after playing hurt the entire 2007 season and adding the best DT in the draft beside him. I know it's crazy to think that things like that might have a positive impact on his production.

As for 'drastically' better, well, I said 12, which would be a whopping 4 more than his careeer best, 4.5 more than last year, when he was hobbled. It's not like predicting an 8-INT season for William Bartee or something. I could see that reaction if I'd said 17 or something nutty like that.

The problem is that Hali is neither strong, fast, or athletic.

He doesn't have the speed to get around the edge, isn't strong enough to overpower the LT, and, quite frankly, looks silly attempting moves.

The Chiefs did attempt one stunt this preseason, and Hali was just to slow to get to the inside.
He attempted a couple of spin moves, and the only way it was going to work is if the LT fell down laughing.

Inspector 09-06-2008 09:43 AM

I'm keeping an open mind.

So far Hali hasn't made me a believer, but we'll see what happens this year.

And yeah, it's difficult being really optimistic about him.

Deberg_1990 09-06-2008 09:46 AM

It is nice to see an "All Chiefs draftee" defensive line. When was the last time that happened?

But Hali wont be a JA or even come close. Its just something we are going to have to accept and deal with throughout the season.

milkman 09-06-2008 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4984893)
It is nice to see an "All Chiefs draftee" defensive line. When was the last time that happened?

But Hali wont be a JA or even come close. Its just something we are going to have to accept and deal with throughout the season.

Hali will be a nice rotational DE when we get a real RDE.

And by the time we we get a real RDE, we'll have probably learned that Turk is a better LDE than Hali was.


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