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Mr. Plow 10-26-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050628)
You want to place a wager on what the exit fees will be? I'll take under $10,000,000. You can have the over.

lol. I've been saying $6-$12 million since the beginning....you've been saying $3 million. ROFL

I see you've changed your opinion.

DJ's left nut 10-26-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8050615)
Your intelligence level keeps falling in this thread.

Not everyone has the unfortunate advantage you do - entering every thread at absolute zero.

DJ's left nut 10-26-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarispider95 (Post 8050625)
Honest question to Mizzou fans, do you have an invite if A&M doesn't leave the big 12?

Lets just say, you wanted to be the catalyst after hearing Texas flirt with the Pac and A&M was content following Texas, but they both decided to stay in the big 12, so no race to get to 16.

The article posted earlier indicated that yes, Mizzou had discussions w/ Slive regarding admission to the SEC when it appeared that the XII was going to dissolve and A&M was going to the PAC.

So yeah, MU would've been attractive to the SEC even without A&M as this was the exact contingency that was initially discussed.

MU would probably not have been enough to get the SEC to expand to 13 without the PAC expanding, but ultimately I don't really care.

HemiEd 10-26-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8050570)
You got that contract handy?

He has said it so many times in this thread, it is now validated as gospel.

Saul Good 10-26-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8050631)
lol. I've been saying $6-$12 million since the beginning....you've been saying $3 million. ROFL

I see you've changed your opinion.

So $9,000,000 is the middle of your range. I'll take the under.

DJ's left nut 10-26-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8050644)
He has said it so many times in this thread, it is now validated as gospel.


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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 8050572)
And then Missouri reaffirmed it's membership in the conference after NU and CU left, happily taking it's portion of the exit fees.

Likewise.

Mr. Plow 10-26-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050649)
So $9,000,000 is the middle of your range. I'll take the under.

Ok, then I'll take the Over $3,000,000. We both win! Yay for us!

DJ's left nut 10-26-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050649)
So $9,000,000 is the middle of your range. I'll take the under.

With or without a 2012 exit?

I'm thinking $8 million if they start SEC play in 2012. Around $2 million if they start in 2013.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-26-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8050580)
Again - this didn't actually happen. The meetings after Colorado and Nebraska left led to a lot of non-binding crap and hippy handholding sessions where everyone said they'd agree to get along in the future and explore things as necessary.

In fact, my understanding is that the exit fees haven't been paid yet, either.

There is no new 'membership' contract. The by-laws remain the same. The potential fees and arguments w/ them remain the same.

Exit fees aren't "paid", they are withheld from media payments.

MU attended these "hippy handholding" sessions and by all accounts made no stink or move then about the membership changing, so you don't have any basis for using that as an excuse.

Mr. Plow 10-26-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8050655)
With or without a 2012 exit?

I'm thinking $8 million if they start SEC play in 2012. Around $2 million if they start in 2013.

At least I, when I originally commented $6-$12 million, was referring to an exit next year.

DJ's left nut 10-26-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 8050659)
Exit fees aren't "paid", they are withheld from media payments.

MU attended these "hippy handholding" sessions and by all accounts made no stink or move then about the membership changing, so you don't have any basis for using that as an excuse.

Except that there were no actual binding results from said sandbox sessions.

You're the one citing reaffirmations (a legal term of art, by the way) and/or written contracts/novations that simply do not exist.

They can show up to as many of those meetings as they want and sing kumbayah all day - it doesn't mean shit when they start talking exit fees.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-26-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050592)
That would be an excellent point if any part of it were true.

so you've been held hostage like Elizabeth Smart for the last 2 years? got it.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-26-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8050670)
Except that there were no actual binding results from said sandbox sessions.

You're the one citing reaffirmations (a legal term of art, by the way) and/or written contracts/novations that simply do not exist.

They can show up to as many of those meetings as they want and sing kumbayah all day - it doesn't mean shit when they start talking exit fees.

ah, so only what's on paper counts?

DJ's left nut 10-26-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 8050683)
ah, so only what's on paper counts?

Uh...yes, actually.

This is not a contract of indefinite duration (it would have had a sunset date) and it would have taken more than 1 year to complete (they're not going to sign a 1 year 'reaffirmation'). As such, it is subject to the Statute of Frauds and must be in writing to be enforceable.

And that's still if there were even legitimate contact terms discussed, not just 'agreements to agree' as has been universally reported.

There are some theoretical estoppel arguments that could be raised, but those wouldn't activate any liquidated damages provisions, would require actual damages, and would be virtually impossible to establish/prove up.

Sweetheart - you're out of your league here.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-26-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8050700)
Uh...yes, actually.

This is not a contract of indefinite duration (it would have had a sunset date) and it would have taken more than 1 year to complete (they're not going to sign a 1 year 'reaffirmation'). As such, it is subject to the Statute of Frauds and must be in writing to be enforceable.

And that's still if there were even legitimate contact terms discussed, not just 'agreements to agree' as has been universally reported.

There are some theoretical estoppel arguments that could be raised, but those wouldn't activate any liquidated damages provisions, would require actual damages, and would be virtually impossible to establish/prove up.

Sweetheart - you're out of your league here.

and what's on paper points to about $25 million in fees, right?


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