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mnchiefsguy 10-26-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8050387)
This one might of been posted already - I just saw it and I'm not going back through the thread.


http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...ourney-no-lock


3-point shots: Mizzou tourney no lock


By Andy Katz


1. Missouri’s promise of putting on a college basketball tournament in December in Kansas City if it were to leave for the SEC won’t be such an easy outcome. Team-oriented invitational tournaments are dying in the sport. Few power-six schools play in these non-exempt two-game tournaments anymore. According to a tournament organizer, Missouri’s best option would be to play a semi-neutral series at the Sprint Center, like facing Gonzaga in year one and then playing the Zags in Seattle in year two. Play Connecticut in Boston in year one and UConn in KC in year two. Most non-elite tournaments have shut down because of the difficulty of scheduling these games.

2. The Big 12 tournament is in Kansas City in 2012, 2013 and 2014, rounding out the five-year run at the Sprint Center that began with the 2010 tournament. But any fear that attendance could drop significantly without Mizzou in possibly 2013 and 2014 shouldn’t be an issue for the league. Kansas City is a Kansas and Kansas State city first, as evidenced by the crowd at the championship game in 2010. I was there. I saw. The atmosphere was terrific for the two Kansas schools. Losing Mizzou takes away one of the local schools, but if other schools like Iowa State or Oklahoma State – two conference schools in hoops that have the potential to draw well – continue on an upward trajectory, the loss of Mizzou can be muted. And as long as Kansas and Kansas State are playing well, attendance won’t be an issue. If this tourney was in St. Louis, that could be a different matter. But it’s not.

If Andy Katz thinks KC is more of a KSU town than a Mizzou town....that is just a stupid statement. Basing that opinion on one game at the Sprint Center is equally short sighted.

Mr. Plow 10-26-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8050522)
If Andy Katz thinks KC is more of a KSU town than a Mizzou town....that is just a stupid statement. Basing that opinion on one game at the Sprint Center is equally short sighted.


I think the point that he is trying to make is that MU isn't much of a loss to the Big 12 basketball tournament fanwise...meaning it will still fill up with or without MU.

Bambi 10-26-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8050522)
If Andy Katz thinks KC is more of a KSU town than a Mizzou town....that is just a stupid statement. Basing that opinion on one game at the Sprint Center is equally short sighted.

The Big 12 tournament attendance won't be affected in the slightest with MU leaving.

Especially with the prospect of Pitino coming in.

That is his point. imho

RustShack 10-26-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 8049402)
Hey Rust...


.....is next year gonna be the year Iowa St. brings it? I look forward to your annual saber rattling.

This is the best team talent wise they have had in years. It's just too bad that they don't have a cupcake schedule like a let's say Iowa to reflect it.

Saul Good 10-26-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8050519)
Saul Good, why are you bashing on the Big 12 so much?

Because they're holding Mizzou hostage. Let us go on our way, and I'll pull for the Big IIX to succeed.

Mr. Plow 10-26-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050530)
Because they're holding Mizzou hostage. Let us go on our way, and I'll pull for the Big IIX to succeed.

As I remember, you guys were gloating about how you were holding the Big 12 hostage just a few days ago.

Really though, all MU has to do is say "We are leaving the Big 12".

mnchiefsguy 10-26-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8050525)
I think the point that he is trying to make is that MU isn't much of a loss to the Big 12 basketball tournament fanwise...meaning it will still fill up with or without MU.

That may be his point, but her articulated it very poorly and did not back his point up with pertinent facts.

I hope attendance for the tourney stays at a high level. That is the only chance KC has to keep it is to continue to sell the place out and provide a great atmosphere for the tourney.

evenfall 10-26-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8050328)
also there were rumors awhile back that Arkansas is not very happy in the SEC. Would they be a good market to add? At this point, would they even consider leaving the SEC?

ROFL

Pants 10-26-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8050535)
As I remember, you guys were gloating about how you were holding the Big 12 hostage just a few days ago.

Really though, all MU has to do is say "We are leaving the Big 12".

And pay us the fees. I think Saul is confused about the definition of that word. He seems to think it's synonymous with ransom, but it's not.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-26-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8050440)
People still say deuces? lol

just MU fans apparently.

cool beans, bro.

Bambi 10-26-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050530)
Because they're holding Mizzou hostage. Let us go on our way, and I'll pull for the Big IIX to succeed.

Missouri isn't being "held hostage". They are being told that their agreements must be honored like any other organization or person that enters into a contract with another.

Can that be negotiated out? Most likely.

We live in a society with agreements that bind factions together for a million different reasons.

You can't just up and decide that "I'm done with this and move on."

please

Saul Good 10-26-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8050526)
The Big 12 tournament attendance won't be affected in the slightest with MU leaving.

Especially with the prospect of Pitino coming in.

That is his point. imho

So the Sprint Center will be filled for a tournament that isn't played there? I mean, Mizzou doesn't even matter. Us leaving only means the Big XII tourney moves, WU and Louisville battle for entrance, the Big East collapses...

duncan_idaho 10-26-2011 12:07 PM

In a piece of actual news...

The LHN isn't on life support yet, but things look bad.

Anyone want to take bets on how long Texas sticks around if/when the LHN fails?

Dangerous spot for ISU, KU, KSU, etc. If the LHN is a roaring success, Texas has the ammo to pull a ND and go independent for football only. If the LHN is a huge failure, ESPN and UT fold up shop, and UT has nothing to keep it from being an attractive partner for the PAC or B1G.

I feel like Wildcats, Jayhawks, Cyclones and Bears should be rooting for the LHN to be a break-even type deal for Texas.

notorious 10-26-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8050530)
Because they're holding Mizzou hostage. Let us go on our way, and I'll pull for the Big IIX to succeed.

I agree, it would be better for both of them.


The Big 12 doesn't want Mizzou around to remind everyone that they are leaving, and Mizzou wants to move on.

BigCatDaddy 10-26-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8050523)
Petro has just obliterated KK's position today. It has been very impressive. Him and the beaker Harlan were even mocking the planted caller from Mississippi yesterday.

Did it drive you nuts that college football insider Todd Christensen kept referring to "the two primary sports"?


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