The Saudi Arabian audience apparently loves to see the classics. I think they're keeping it going until they can wheel Goldberg out for another match there in a couple of months.

Didn't watch Summerslam but I did watch some highligh clips.

Nice to see Edge come out to his old Brood theme.

That entrance theme along with Gangrel and Christian was one of the best themes in WWF at the time. The music used to bump on the speaker system.

Not a big fan of Punk myself either....but I get that some really liked him.

AEW gets big time brownie points for how they really took care of Brodie Lee's family. Plus I have been a Kenny Omega fan since someone mentioned him a couple of years back.

Plus I like how Tony Khan has opened the door to their grapplers crossing into other wrestling groups.

Nowhere close to 100% that Bray Wyatt is headed to AEW. Meltzer said it was 99.9% then Alvarez said he'd gotten texts from people that would know confused about where Meltzer had gotten that.

Adam Coles contract expired and he's now free..so he's either Raw, Smackdown or AEW bound.

Unless he's a ****ing idiot, he's All Elite.

tell ya what, AEW is killing it right now. aside from my unfamiliarity with a lot of the wrestlers, they are very skilled.

loved watching a match recently where someone pulled a weapon out of the turnbuckle. i hadn't seen that act in 20 years. ROFL

Well, let's see if AEW can do something with this momentum. Probably the best chance they're ever going to have right now.

They're not Vince McMahon, so I'm sure it will be managed at least 'ok'

Tune in to the Vince response on Raw: Nia Jax on a pole match

Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson back to back...

AEW has a better roster than WWE.

We should discuss the utter stupidity of the WWE walking on Adam Cole over Twitch.

Shouldn’t wrestlers on Twitch be a good thing?

Kayfabe is long since dead, so I only see positives in the wrestlers developing a more personal following. As long as they aren’t spoiling anything, then what’s the harm?

Or he wanted to work where his best friends were the EVPs and his girlfriend works as well. Seriously doubt the Twitch streams had much to do with it.

It was part, he told them he wouldn't give it up and they said they weren't changing the rule..

It was about the money, they didn't like wrestlers making 100k a year off it while they got nothing. They literally thought they should have gotten a cut.

Don't think they did. Sounds like they tried to offer him a 'manager' role on the main roster.

They're just ****ing stupid.

If that’s true, that’s even dumber than the Twitch stuff.

I just wonder how upset Triple H is, Cole was his guy.

I'm sure Loser Hunter saw that one coming a mile away.

It's an interesting game. They are trying to see if AEW can't afford all of these guys while the Khan's are more loaded than they are.

I haven't actually sat down and watched an entire wrestling show for quite some time but I love the highlights I'm seeing from AEW. The energy and involvement from the crowd is awesome.

Same here. It's like a blast from the past. Incredible show from the vids after.

AEW needs to stop doing those big brawls, or at least do them from the hard camera only. Both times I've watched a full AEW show they've looked ****ing terrible. Kenny threw a belt shot and the camera was at the perfect angle to see just how fake it was.

If, and when this happens. I'm All Elite.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...tter_breaking/

AEW should send Nick Khan a gift basket. His mentality that Vince adopted is driving out legitimate talent in droves right into their arms.

Does anyone see the “hidden genius” in what WWE is doing?

I know they’ve made some questionable decisions over the years, but what the ****? It would take 15 minutes of browsing wrestling forums online to know how much momentum AEW has right now.

Is there some argument in support of what WWE is doing? I’m just not seeing it.

From the perspective of Vince, none of the talent he's cut recently has drawn money, and NXT has been a failure in development and competing against AEW, so why not let AEW pay them all that money while we cut costs. Of course, in reality it's his fault for grievously misusing the talent and treating the talent like disposable numbers is a pretty stupid way to go about things when the upstart company is gobbling it all up and is poised better than any other wrestling company besides WWE has been in almost a quarter century.

I have seen so many people on the Internet posting this exact sentiment. I think All Out is going to be a true turning point in the industry.

I'm starting to believe Vince is going to sell out.

There has to be something else going on behind the scenes with WWE that we don't know about. An imminent sale is probably most likely, but otherwise it looks as if they're deliberately tanking their own company, for no reason.

There is a funny theory floating around that Vince actually owns AEW and that this is all a ploy to recreate the Monday Night Wars by creating 2 legitimate brands.

I don’t think it would be possible to keep that secret in today’s age though.

Fun to think about anyway.

Plus not all aew stars are on full time contracts. They also some that get paid but they make more money from other shows and stuff so tony khan not breaking the bank on his rosters.

What's going on is all of their profit is from TV. Literally something like 90% of WWEs profit is from the TV contracts. The rest is from their big spectacle stadium shows people attend just because it's a big show.

To show growth to investors they're cutting costs, that simple

That's interesting. So AEW is actually treating the wrestlers like independent contractors, as opposed to WWE using it as a loophole.

I've been out on wrestling since before Punk left WWE so I haven't seen any of the actual product. But loosely paying attention from the outside, I had wondered if AEW was in danger of WCWing themselves with spending on aging stars.

Kenny Omega has a AAA title.. Moxley is the GCW champion, guys are allowed to work other places.

I thought Bray was a pretty big money maker?

He moved merch, in reality no one is a draw now. The WWE has spent years pushing brand over talent so they're all just replaceable pieces.

Looks like Triple H had a heart attack...

Seriously?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official statement from WWE:<br><br>&quot;Paul Levesque, a.k.a. Triple H, underwent a successful procedure last week at Yale New Haven Hospital following a cardiac event. The episode was caused by a genetic heart issue and Paul is expected to make a full recovery.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/daTT1SnBUz">https://t.co/daTT1SnBUz</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1435702276962852869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The problem is that if WWE is not seen as a place for opportunity they will lose a lot of potential superstar talent that should be main eventers like WCW losing Jericho, Benoit, Eddie, and Mysterio.

More like Triple Bypass.

Boom. Nailed it.

He saw the new NXT logo...

****. Can you blame him?

Well no unless you dig Splatoon.

He probably clutched his chest immediately and told Chyna he was on his way to see her.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thought u guys hated wwe</p>&mdash; Pabst Blue Ribbon (@PabstBlueRibbon) <a href="https://twitter.com/PabstBlueRibbon/status/1435729101227167746?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hate watching is probably a good reason WWE still has ratings.

Imagine a guy who looks like Adam Cole being believable to a kid watching wrestling. He'd be lucky to crack the midcard in the 90's. AEW has too many generic looking wrestlers. I understand the steroid era is over but larger than life characters and physiques is what gets people into wrestling. Not what I saw on TV yesterday.

That isn't what wrestling is now. 99.9 of the guys who get into wrestling don't look like that.

Vince gets a hair in his ass at times about this and guess what it never works. They end up hiring former football players and bodybuilders..most never make it to TV cause they're asshole..or you end up with Braun Strowman or Nia Jax who are really unsafe in the ring because they weren't trainee properly.

Anyway who are you looking at that's making you post this anyway..

Adam Cole, the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, Daniel Bryan, Darby Allin. I know many of these guys are considered elite wrestlers and have been popular for some time. They just look boring and bland to me.

I'm not only talking about the bodybuilder look. Guys like Bret Hart or Mr. Perfect weren't bodybuilders, but they had a much better look imo. Better costumes and physiques than these guys.

Kenny Omega is literally built exactly like those guys...if you wanna tell me Darby Allin is little ok but Omega isn't in that class.

He's probably actually smaller than Hart. Definitely smaller than Perfect. It's not just build though. His presentation and attire looks like crap. Most of pro wrestling is looks (including attire) and promos. Being great in the ring helps but I'd rank it third after look and charisma. I just don't feel today's wrestlers have a great look. They also lack promo skills compared to past days.

The in-ring stuff has also gotten worse with too many flips, big spots, false finishes. It cheapens the product. There's little in-ring psychology or emphasis on big moments in the match.

Wrestling has been shifting away from 1980's WWF Hulkamania style for a long while.

Big spots saved them in the 90's. Now it's 5 idiots sitting outside of the ring waiting to catch a flippy guy.

I've been watching wrestling since the late 1970s (when the only wrestling I could watch was All Star Wresting on channel 41). Almost ALL of the wrestlers back then were very average looking, or just big (somewhat pudgy) guys....but they could work an OK match, and in the case of Bulldog Bob Brown (who wasn't the best in-ring worker) could work a crowd like few can these days. I guess it's a matter of what you're used to.

Bulldog Bob Brown held the NWA Central States Title 19 times:
https://www.onlineworldofwrestling.c...obbrown/02.jpg

Back then, All Star Wrestling was held almost every Thursday night at Memorial Hall in KC, KS and while it's not a large place, it was virtually filled every week. They'd have road shows to other cites in the four state area when they weren't in KC. Lots of big names came through the area back in the day, and it was Harley Race's home when we didn't have the NWA World Title.

Welp, didn't expect the person to have their reputation ruined by "Dark Side of the Ring: The Plane Ride from Hell" the most to be Tommy Dreamer.

All he had to say was yep...I mean shit Flair shows everyone his dick.

Such a crazy story.

Yeah, Tommy Dreamer might regret that interview.

Ric seemed to be jealous of all the negative attention Tommy was getting so he posted this in a series of Twitter messages.

Every person that I've worked with, from my lawyer to my publicist to my wife has said not to post a response; but I've never run from past behaviors before and I'm not going to start now. I want to clarify a few things:

About four years ago, I gave ESPN full access to my life for a "30 for 30" special. They covered taxes, financial issues, adultery, divorces, the passing of my child and drinking/partying AT LENGTH.

Rory Kampf, desperate to matter for another 15 minutes, did an interview about it this morning. When Rory’s lips are moving, he's typically lying, but one part of what he said was the God's honest truth:

"I'd never heard that he had forced someone to touch his genitals,” Karpf admitted. "Everything with Ric that was construed as negative I tried to address in the 30 for 30. His drinking, his philandering, his adultery, his money problems, there's quite a bit, but never, at least in the people that I spoke to, no one ever brought up that he would force himself on somebody."

I allowed my personal life and the lives of my wife and children to be turned upside down for one reason: Whether it's good or bad, even the really bad, the truth has to matter. Even in wrestling.

My issues have been well documented over my 40+ year career. The impact of drinking too much (which nearly killed me 5 years ago) has been told time and time and time again. The reason Rory (or anyone else for that matter) never heard stories of me forcing myself on ANYONE is simple: it never happened.

Wouldn't be surprised if a flood of similar stories to Heidi's comes out now. He's basically begging to be buried by his horrendous behavior in the past.

Undertaker may be next up for his role in that dumbass kangaroo court they ran back in the day and for being a genuine piece of shit when it comes to his "friend" Kanyon.

Once he came out as gay Undertaker legit beat the shit out of him on a Smackdown and smashed him with one of the most brutal chairshots I've ever seen. The reactions of Tazz and Heyman are telling. https://streamable.com/j9s2ri

Flair did a signing and an appearance at a Ring of Honor show years ago and you could smell the booze off him from a block away. He was a wreck.

At least now performers can come out as gay and it's just not a big deal. Anthony Bowens of The Acclaimed is openly gay and you wouldn't know it if you didn't read it elsewhere. And then you have Effy, one of the top guys in the indies. He is flamboyantly gay and it's the core of his character and he gets huge pops all over the place because he is a great performer. Even 10 years ago that would not have been the case.

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Very true. How Pat Patterson kept it hidden (or did he?) for decades is shocking.

Those are some violent chair shots. Might be worse than what the Acolytes did to Public Enemy.

That was obviously a different time but I think Patterson being gay was a fairly open secret in the business but he was respected so it was kept quiet.

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Wasn’t Pat Patterson at the heart of the Ring Boy scandal?

Maybe he was just like Moolah? Had enough influence and power that stuff was covered up for them.

Violent chair shots were the norm in those days. I don't remember Undertaker taking it easy on other wrestlers with the chair. Or vice versa.

Stevie Richards absolutely annihilated JBL around this same time. Revenge for JBL throwing potatoes at Blue Meanie at the One Night Stand PPV. I’m surprised JBL survived that one.

Not exactly helping the case when you reference another horrible chair shot that was delivered as a receipt.

Chair shots to the head were violent by nature. No way to do a headshot without it being violent. You can't just tap them in the head and make it look too fake and soft. Knowing what we know today about head injuries, it's a wonder they ever took shots to the head.

Those shots were delivered much harder than necessary without letting the other guy get his hands up to at least mitigate some of the impact. It's why the Rock gets shit to this day for those unprotected shots delivered to Mick Foley.

You must have never seen a Hulk Hogan chairshot, brother.

I still cringe when I see any Balls Mahoney chairshot from ECW. Especially when he used to dent chairs over Steve Corinos head.

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Speaking of Hogan, this Twitter thread is comedy gold.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hulk Hogan Lies Over The Years [thread] <a href="https://t.co/LoPXWO4ABI">pic.twitter.com/LoPXWO4ABI</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1437040427568410628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The chair shot (if you want to call it that) that Hogan gave Konan during the New Blood era is hilarious. It’s a literal boop.

Hogan really is one of the safest and best workers of all time, both in the ring and in the back.

Vince is probably having a meltdown today...AEW is running Arthur Ashe with a stacked card. It's sold out..and it's on the front page of the NY Daily news.

He's got DA BIG DAWG

I hope you all watched that AEW show, that shit was fire.

LMAO What the ****?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LOOK AT THIS CAPE LMFAO <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWGrandSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWGrandSlam</a> <a href="https://t.co/GPmJWGYElq">pic.twitter.com/GPmJWGYElq</a></p>&mdash; John Cerenzio #TonyDAngeloSZN  (@JCerenzio) <a href="https://twitter.com/JCerenzio/status/1440845075961954304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No one told Cody that Homelander is the bad guy.

I get what he's doing but why is he feuding with Black of all people while doing it? I guess if they're going meta with it Black is pretty much adored despite the fact he's supposed to be this terrible bad guy so whatever works.

It was funny how the crowd hated him.