ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Football ****Official 2022 Free Agency Megathread**** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=342942)

bobhill 03-22-2022 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16206443)
Not sure if posted

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9ffde20fc0.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

is this a good or bad possible signing? i had never heard of him

Hoover 03-22-2022 02:39 PM

Yup why not?

TwistedChief 03-22-2022 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobhill (Post 16206461)
is this a good or bad possible signing? i had never heard of him

He's this season's Mike Pennel. Or David Amerson.

You be the judge.

Kiimo 03-22-2022 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16205926)
That’s not what he takes issue with.

You are without a doubt the worst poster on this board and that is saying something. Shoot yourself in the dick and spare everyone your hot head bullshit every single day. I'm talking about her retcons not her idiotic take on trans rights you ****ing dipshit

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 02:52 PM

Clowny still out there!

staylor26 03-22-2022 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16206486)
You are without a doubt the worst poster on this board and that is saying something. Shoot yourself in the dick and spare everyone your hot head bullshit every single day. I'm talking about her retcons not her idiotic take on trans rights you ****ing dipshit

LMAO

Look how triggered you are.

Keep your political bs out of The Lounge pussy.

O.city 03-22-2022 02:56 PM

staylor you're the most easily triggered guy here lol.

Baby Lee 03-22-2022 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16206170)
I think they’re counting on Hill and OBJ’s contracts to create the cap space necessary. Maybe Thuney’s bonus if they really see someone they want.

Until Odell is signed somewhere, and if we're using nicknames, can we stick with Zeus or something for Orlando?

Kiimo 03-22-2022 02:57 PM

It's like every day

O.city 03-22-2022 02:58 PM

Keanu Neal in the Sorenson role might be interesting. No clue if we could afford that.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16206514)
Until Odell is signed somewhere, and if we're using nicknames, can we stick with Zeus or something for Orlando?

Zeus is Kelce.

Titty Meat 03-22-2022 03:02 PM

The Chiefs are converting $12.865M of G Joe Thuney’s base salary into a signing bonus, creating $9,648,750 in 2022 cap space.

staylor26 03-22-2022 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16206510)
staylor you're the most easily triggered guy here lol.

There’s a difference between calling out stupidity and being a pussy that has to interject their politics into everything while labeling anybody that pushes back as racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc.

I’m not attacking anybody’s character or labeling them a bigot.

Of course, you probably can’t grasp that nuance.

And then again, you’re also a pussy. Just in your own way.

O.city 03-22-2022 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16206528)
There’s a difference between calling out stupidity and being a pussy that has to interject their politics into everything while labeling anybody that pushes back as racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc.

I’m not attacking anybody’s character or labeling them a bigot.

Of course, you probably can’t grasp that nuance.

And then again, you’re also a pussy. Just in your own way.

It's your world man, we're all just living in it.

staylor26 03-22-2022 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16206540)
It's your world man, we're all just living in it.

Yea, figured you wouldn’t have an actual rebuttal.

Marcellus 03-22-2022 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16205808)
Must we pollute the free agency thread with such obvious attempts at clickbait that I'm embarrassed you even felt the need to share?

If you watch the video you can tell its not even click bait, the other "analyst" looked at him like he had 3 heads or something.

The best part was his reasoning was the Chiefs schedule and he apparently forgot the whole division plays 14 of 17 against the same teams LMAO

O.city 03-22-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16206542)
Yea, figured you wouldn’t have an actual rebuttal.

You triggered yourself, didn't really think I needed to rebut anything.

staylor26 03-22-2022 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16206544)
You triggered yourself, didn't really think I needed to rebut anything.

I “triggered myself”?

How? Where?

Now you’re just making shit up.

Titty Meat 03-22-2022 03:18 PM

Guys take your beef somewhere else plz

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16206518)
Zeus is Kelce.

Since when? Zeus is what Orlando Brown Jr has been being called since he was in college. He even mentioned it in several pressers. OBJ is for Odell Beckham Jr.

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16206527)
The Chiefs are converting $12.865M of G Joe Thuney’s base salary into a signing bonus, creating $9,648,750 in 2022 cap space.

Dude that was posted almost 2 hours ago and an entire thread on the subject.

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16206562)
Since when. Zeus is what Orlando Brown Jr has been being called since he was in college. He even mentioned it in several pressers. OBJ is for Odell Beckham Jr.

Dude - people have been calling Kelce Zeus since at least 2015.

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16206571)
Dude - people have been calling Kelce Zeus since at least 2015.

Ok. Don't recall it once even.

Titty Meat 03-22-2022 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16206569)
Dude that was posted almost 2 hours ago and an entire thread on the subject.

I don't scroll back more than a page or 2. Never have never will. Deal with it

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16206574)
I don't scroll back more than a page or 2. Never have never will. Deal with it

LOL, It is only like 25 posts back from this post. But whatever.

Balto 03-22-2022 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16206562)
Since when? Zeus is what Orlando Brown Jr has been being called since he was in college. He even mentioned it in several pressers. OBJ is for Odell Beckham Jr.

I thought Zeus was Browns Fathers nickname and his was like Baby Zeus or something.

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 04:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">K&#39;Waun Williams agrees to terms with Broncos. <a href="https://t.co/Qn3uzYPra7">https://t.co/Qn3uzYPra7</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1506395273676959747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCUnited 03-22-2022 04:22 PM

No practice squad, no care

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 04:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Chiefs’ WR Demarcus Robinson is signing a one-year deal with the Las Vegas Raiders, per <a href="https://twitter.com/KatzBrosSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KatzBrosSports</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506396151720943623?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TribalElder 03-22-2022 04:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Chiefs’ WR Demarcus Robinson is signing a one-year deal with the Las Vegas Raiders, per <a href="https://twitter.com/KatzBrosSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KatzBrosSports</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506396151720943623?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bump 03-22-2022 04:29 PM

well cya D Rob

FloridaMan88 03-22-2022 04:33 PM

One deadweight gone, one more to go… someone sign Sorensen.

suzzer99 03-22-2022 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16206667)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Chiefs’ WR Demarcus Robinson is signing a one-year deal with the Las Vegas Raiders, per <a href="https://twitter.com/KatzBrosSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KatzBrosSports</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506396151720943623?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's gonna be hilarious to watch our defense just let him run backwards all day: "Ok guys, nobody touch D-Rob when he catches the ball. Let him run backwards five yards and dance around a bit, then tackle him."

Baby Lee 03-22-2022 04:48 PM

Fournette back to TB - 3y 21M --> 24M w/inc.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16206683)
One deadweight gone, one more to go… someone sign Sorensen.

Two more to go. Sorensen and Niemann.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 04:56 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...say/ar-AAVgQS3

Sounds like Landry and Clowney are going to end up back with CLEV.

How about Ingram and Juiio to KC!? lol

BossChief 03-22-2022 05:04 PM

Didn’t Cleveland just cut Landry?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2022 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16206716)
Two more to go. Sorensen and Niemann.

Nah, Niemann wasn’t a sack of shit last year. He was bad but not Sorensen levels

staylor26 03-22-2022 05:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Saints’ OT Terron Armstead reached agreement on a five-year deal with the Miami Dolphins, source tells ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506414079514193921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 05:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> are signing their new left tackle Terron Armstead to a five-year, $75 million deal plus incentives, per source. 💰💰 <a href="https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7">https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1506415153662808077?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BossChief 03-22-2022 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16206732)
Nah, Niemann wasn’t a sack of shit last year. He was bad but not Sorensen levels

Bullshit. He was terrible. I’d EXPECT a late round rookie to be able to replace him with an upgrade. And I’m a Hawkeye fan that’s been hoping he would catch up and become a solid player for us. If it didn’t happen this year, it never will.

I bet he has a career in coaching, though.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-22-2022 05:43 PM

Reed and Robinson are gone. Good riddance.

Reed was the biggest free agent bust in recent memory.

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-22-2022 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16206799)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> are signing their new left tackle Terron Armstead to a five-year, $75 million deal plus incentives, per source. 💰💰 <a href="https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7">https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1506415153662808077?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shouldn’t the Dolphins invest more in RT than LT since Tua is left handed?

BossChief 03-22-2022 05:52 PM

I hope they are able to get extensions done with Tyreek and Brown while some quality vets are still available after the draft so we can add some more pieces.

I think we’re killing the comp pick formula, though.

Lost:
Robinson
Reed
Hughes
Ward
Pringle
Blythe

Signed:
Juju
Reid


Am I missing anyone? Still expecting Tyrann and Hitchens to sign somewhere, but maybe the league saw exactly what we did. That they both weren’t very good last year.

Titty Meat 03-22-2022 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16206820)
I hope they are able to get extensions done with Tyreek and Brown while some quality vets are still available after the draft so we can add some more pieces.

I think we’re killing the comp pick formula, though.

Lost:
Robinson
Reed
Hughes
Ward
Pringle
Blythe

Signed:
Juju
Reid


Am I missing anyone? Still expecting Tyrann and Hitchens to sign somewhere, but maybe the league saw exactly what we did. That they both weren’t very good last year.

Lee

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16206812)
Shouldn’t the Dolphins invest more in RT than LT since Tua is left handed?

They just drafted an RT last year in Liam Eichenberg.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 06:05 PM

Some of those comp picks aren’t going to happen with how other teams have been handing out contracts.

Jamie 03-22-2022 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16206799)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> are signing their new left tackle Terron Armstead to a five-year, $75 million deal plus incentives, per source. 💰💰 <a href="https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7">https://t.co/nPbEFIwqM7</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1506415153662808077?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

$15 million AAV? That seems low.

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16206843)
$15 million AAV? That seems low.

More of the total numbers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dolphins giving OT Terrron Armstead a five-year deal worth up $87.5 million, including $43.37 million guaranteed, source tells ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506415671546101765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coogs 03-22-2022 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16206820)
I hope they are able to get extensions done with Tyreek and Brown while some quality vets are still available after the draft so we can add some more pieces.

I think we’re killing the comp pick formula, though.

Lost:
Robinson
Reed
Hughes
Ward
Pringle
Blythe

Signed:
Juju
Reid


Am I missing anyone? Still expecting Tyrann and Hitchens to sign somewhere, but maybe the league saw exactly what we did. That they both weren’t very good last year.

Isn't it something like a day or two after the draft when free agents can be signed and not count against the compensatory picks the next year?

RunKC 03-22-2022 06:44 PM

Players we lost that were starters/played a lot and who we replaced them with:

Clark-restructred
Nnadi-signed new deal to stay
Reed-TBD
Ingram-TBD
Ward-TBD
Matheiu-replaced by Reid
Neimann-replaced by Lee
Hughes-TBD
Sorenson-TBD

Hoping to get Ingram back and at least one more low cost vet at safety

staylor26 03-22-2022 06:59 PM

Don’t forget Hitchens replaced by Bolton.

BleedingRed 03-22-2022 07:03 PM

I want Ingram back for sure

New World Order 03-22-2022 07:15 PM

I’d like Ingram abd a veteran corner

Dante84 03-22-2022 07:42 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take your top 4 DEs off the board, how confident are you in the 5th guy?<br><br>50/50 chance (on avg, probably higher in a stronger class) that guy is gone, are you comfortable with EDGE 6?<br><br>33% he’s gone, how you feeling about EDGE 7?</p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1506444334908026884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 03-22-2022 07:44 PM

It's along off season let's not trip on the Edge position til camp

ThyKingdomCome15 03-22-2022 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16206938)
Don’t forget Hitchens replaced by Bolton.

So we have an open spot in our base set, 4-3. Needless to say we're going heavy on D in the draft. Real heavy. This D is going to be much younger than last year, especially if Ingram and Dirty Dan don't return. Reid and Tyran have a five year age difference alone.

staylor26 03-22-2022 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16206994)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take your top 4 DEs off the board, how confident are you in the 5th guy?<br><br>50/50 chance (on avg, probably higher in a stronger class) that guy is gone, are you comfortable with EDGE 6?<br><br>33% he’s gone, how you feeling about EDGE 7?</p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1506444334908026884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dude is on a roll today looking at his Twitter. Looks like he’s in panic mode.

Those guys swear they know better than Veach and it’s hilarious.

RunKC 03-22-2022 08:03 PM

Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Johnson
Walker
Karlaftis

So we’ll likely have a shot at Mafe, Ebiketie or injured Ojabo. Yeah I’d say that’s a pretty damn deep class as Veach mentioned.

Would not be upset with any of those guys in the first rd (as long as Okabo is cleared medically)

Chief Roundup 03-22-2022 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16207022)
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Johnson
Walker
Karlaftis

So we’ll likely have a shot at Mafe, Ebiketie or injured Ojabo. Yeah I’d say that’s a pretty damn deep class as Veach mentioned.

Would not be upset with any of those guys in the first rd (as long as Okabo is cleared medically)

Ojabo tore his Achilles. He will not be available until mid-season at best. In all reality, he should not be counted on until 2023.

suzzer99 03-22-2022 08:09 PM

I see Matty Lane is having his usual off-season freakout.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-22-2022 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16206994)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take your top 4 DEs off the board, how confident are you in the 5th guy?<br><br>50/50 chance (on avg, probably higher in a stronger class) that guy is gone, are you comfortable with EDGE 6?<br><br>33% he’s gone, how you feeling about EDGE 7?</p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1506444334908026884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

On PFF's Big board 5 is Ojabo and 6 is Jermaine Johnson. I'd take either but wouldn't be surprised if there's a better player, CB, sitting there at that point.

RunKC 03-22-2022 08:25 PM

I mean I get the panic. As of right now the Chiefs probably have a bottom 5 corner and DE group.

They need to sign a couple dudes. Ingram and Gillmore would be nice

TribalElder 03-22-2022 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16206901)
Players we lost that were starters/played a lot and who we replaced them with:

Clark-restructred
Nnadi-signed new deal to stay
Reed-TBD
Ingram-TBD
Ward-TBD
Matheiu-replaced by Reid
Neimann-replaced by Lee
Hughes-TBD
Sorenson-TBD

Hoping to get Ingram back and at least one more low cost vet at safety

Reed went to greenbay

JohnnyHammersticks 03-22-2022 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16206803)
Bullshit. He was terrible. I’d EXPECT a late round rookie to be able to replace him with an upgrade. And I’m a Hawkeye fan that’s been hoping he would catch up and become a solid player for us. If it didn’t happen this year, it never will.

I bet he has a career in coaching, though.

He's a coach-on-the-field type guy. A real cerebral player. A glue guy. One of those guys that might not show up on the stat sheet. A real effort guy. An extension of the coach. A real hustler. First on the field, last to leave type guy. A real gym rat.
<< insert euphemism for not-very-good non-athletic usually white guy here >>

Phoneix 03-22-2022 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16207049)
Reed went to greenbay

Yes, I think s/he means who is replacing Reed is TBD

BossChief 03-22-2022 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16207041)
I mean I get the panic. As of right now the Chiefs probably have a bottom 5 corner and DE group.

They need to sign a couple dudes. Ingram and Gillmore would be nice

The only reason we should be looking at older vets is after the draft.

This draft is deep at WR and DE…we could really bolster both position groups and protect the teams cap position going forward extremely well by doing so.

It’s a huge reason a lot of us had pause on the CEH pick…for a RB to be a good pick in the first, he has to be demonstrably better than a guy you can get in FA. A game breaker. Otherwise he doesn’t offer value against the cap for the pick.

Taking good DEs and WRs in a deep draft and selecting multiples, that allows the team to not have to spend valuable cap space on high priced players at those positions, going forward.

When your roster is too heavy in terms of cap space used every year, using those draft picks on guys that can lock up high priced positions is vital to rounding out the roster.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 08:47 PM

Not sure if they’ll have the money but I would bring in Derek Barnett and Kyzir White before the draft.

staylor26 03-22-2022 08:50 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC is operating like a team that has filled out their roster already. Signing players that are camp bodied fighting for a roster spot. <a href="https://t.co/bijhRyWUDO">https://t.co/bijhRyWUDO</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1506299306784997381?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This idiot doesn’t realize that every team is doing this. Just because they’re signing bottom of the roster guys doesn’t mean they’re done adding starters or closer to the top of the roster guys. It doesn’t have to be done in order.

What a dumb take LMAO

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16207022)
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Johnson
Walker
Karlaftis

So we’ll likely have a shot at Mafe, Ebiketie or injured Ojabo. Yeah I’d say that’s a pretty damn deep class as Veach mentioned.

Would not be upset with any of those guys in the first rd (as long as Okabo is cleared medically)

Plenty of pass rushers in this draft, do we trade back? ESPN has ATL offering MIA a 2nd (#43), 3rd, and 5th for the spot just ahead of us so they can nab their QB on a 5 yr contract.

Ojabo
Mafe
Leal
Hall
Thomas
Ebiketie
Enagbare
Williams
Bonito
Jackson
Pascal
Malone
Thomas
Barno
Uwazurike

Red Dawg 03-22-2022 09:11 PM

Worst off season ever.

BossChief 03-22-2022 09:12 PM

KC is operating like a very well ran team should. Spending money in FA only works if you spend wisely. Signing younger players with relatable skills to your system to reasonable deals that include the players prime athletic years is what Veach seems to do quite well.

staylor26 03-22-2022 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16207119)
KC is operating like a very well ran team should. Spending money in FA only works if you spend wisely. Signing younger players with relatable skills to your system to reasonable deals that include the players prime athletic years is what Veach seems to do quite well.

But he didn’t do what Lane wanted/expected!

I also love how just assumes that the Chiefs are going to stay at 30 and take whatever EDGE falls to them.

Does he not understand that a trade up is possible? Does he know anything about Veach?

If they really do stay at 30 and take an EDGE, that just means Veach got his guy.

BossChief 03-22-2022 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16207120)
But he didn’t do what Lane wanted/expected!

I also love how just assumes that the Chiefs are going to stay at 30 and take whatever EDGE falls to them.

Does he not understand that a trade up is possible? Does he know anything about Veach?

If they really do stay at 30 and take an EDGE, that just means Veach got his guy.

We are going to trade back to 35-38 and take a pass rusher while adding a 4th and 5th. No reason to trade up. Lots of value trading down.

Just look at most mock drafts 4th and 5th rounds and I think we can get a high quality pass rusher in that 35-38 range.

staylor26 03-22-2022 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16207126)
We are going to trade back to 35-38 and take a pass rusher while adding a 4th and 5th.

That’s certainly a possibility, even if I disagree, but the point is that Veach isn’t just going to throw his hands in the air and take whatever EDGE falls into his lap.

He’s selective and will make sure he get’s his guy one way or the other.

RunKC 03-22-2022 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16207073)
The only reason we should be looking at older vets is after the draft.

This draft is deep at WR and DE…we could really bolster both position groups and protect the teams cap position going forward extremely well by doing so.

It’s a huge reason a lot of us had pause on the CEH pick…for a RB to be a good pick in the first, he has to be demonstrably better than a guy you can get in FA. A game breaker. Otherwise he doesn’t offer value against the cap for the pick.

Taking good DEs and WRs in a deep draft and selecting multiples, that allows the team to not have to spend valuable cap space on high priced players at those positions, going forward.

When your roster is too heavy in terms of cap space used every year, using those draft picks on guys that can lock up high priced positions is vital to rounding out the roster.

You can’t rely on the draft to bring excellent results like last year. Nobody gets multiple studs who are top 10 in their position immediately like Creed and Trey.

I think they need to bring back Ingram, sign a corner like Gilmore and get a pass rusher and DB early in the draft to rotate in and play a lot.

BossChief 03-22-2022 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16207129)
That’s certainly a possibility, even if I disagree, but the point is that Veach isn’t just going to throw his hands in the air and take whatever EDGE falls into his lap.

He’s selective and will make sure he get’s his guy one way or the other.

Likely that he takes at least 2 DL in the top 5 picks.

BossChief 03-22-2022 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16207139)
You can’t rely on the draft to bring excellent results like last year. Nobody gets multiple studs who are top 10 in their position immediately like Creed and Trey.

I think they need to bring back Ingram, sign a corner like Gilmore and get a pass rusher and DB early in the draft to rotate in and play a lot.

The reason guys like that are still on the market is because they are overpriced and don’t offer the benefits of a rookie. This team needs an infusion of a bunch of hungry rookies that want to be champions.

If we miss on guys in the draft, then you go fill out the open spots with guys like that.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16207120)
But he didn’t do what Lane wanted/expected!

I also love how just assumes that the Chiefs are going to stay at 30 and take whatever EDGE falls to them.

Does he not understand that a trade up is possible? Does he know anything about Veach?

If they really do stay at 30 and take an EDGE, that just means Veach got his guy.

Maybe a trade-up for Johnson?

KChiefs1 03-22-2022 09:58 PM

https://heavy.com/sports/kansas-city...p-free-agency/

NFL Analyst: Chiefs Playoff Concerns Stem From Huge Departure, Rival QBs

Quote:

The AFC West is shaping up to be the most challenging division in football in 2022.

After the recent blockbuster trades involving Russell Wilson (to Denver), Davante Adams (to Las Vegas) and Khalil Mack (to LAC), there’s no question that the Kansas City Chiefs have a tougher road than usual on paper.

That was the general thought process behind an ESPN segment where analyst Marcus Spears joined “Get Up” to discuss the topic.

Spears Sounds off: ‘This Has Gotten Way Harder’ for KC

The talking point was whether or not the AFC West has “caught up to the Chiefs?”

Spears began by replying, “on paper, for sure.” He went on to explain that in the past, the quarterback play widened the gap between KC and the competition, but that may not be the case anymore. He stated:

Nobody ever had a quarterback to compete with [Patrick] Mahomes and we all gave the creedance to that. [The] Kansas City Chiefs weren’t world-beaters on defense last year. So there’s going to be something that separates these teams this year in the division. I know Tyrann Mathieu is exiting from Kansas City and everybody around the league can think that’s small — I don’t. I don’t believe that’s small at all. When you look at these defensive lines, as they’re currently constructed. You look at what the Chargers have with [Joey] Bosa and Khalil Mack, you look at what the Raiders have with Maxx Crosby and now bringing in Chandler Jones, and then [Bradley] Chubb and Randy Gregory in Denver. This has gotten way harder for the Kansas City Chiefs to just walk through this division, and might I add, last year when we watched this team in the playoffs — and I think the Chiefs are going to be a top team before I make this statement and everybody [goes] crazy — but I did see them in the second half against the [Cincinnati] Bengals, not be able to put any points on the board. So I’m not just going to throw it out there because Mahomes and Andy Reid been doing what they’ve been doing. I believe they will continue to have a high-powered prolific offense, but you’ve gotta bring more to the table in the AFC West now than the Chiefs previously had to.

Has the West Finally Done Enough?

Obviously, Spears has a point. This division will be a gauntlet in 2022 but did the competition do enough to surpass the Chiefs? — Who also added talent in JuJu Smith-Schuster and Justin Reid among others.

One of the analyst’s two key points was that the rival quarterbacks are finally on a level that is close enough to Mahomes to stay in games. We saw that jump last season with Justin Herbert, who went toe-to-toe with the Chiefs gunslinger in both outings.

Wilson may no longer be in his prime, but he still provides a similar sort of moxie for the Broncos, who some believe were a quarterback away the past couple of seasons. Is that enough to make Denver a Super Bowl contender once again?

Finally, you have the Raiders with two former New England Patriots brains now leading the charge. Josh McDaniels wasted no time bringing in a true number one weapon for Derek Carr, who has played at an MVP level at times throughout his up-and-down career.

Adams and McDaniels both add creativity and intelligence to the Vegas offense.

How Much Will Losing Mathieu Hurt KC?

The other portion of Spears’ argument was based on a massive departure — although it has not officially happened yet. The ‘Honey Badger’ is expected to move on to the next chapter of his career, which could be his final one.

General manager Brett Veach seemed committed to getting younger at the position, replacing Mathieu with the comparable skillset of Reid.

The new Chiefs safety reacted to the immediate comparisons, voicing: “A copy is never worth as much as the original. There will never, ever, ever be another Tyrann Mathieu [that] comes through Kansas City. But I can bring the best Justin Reid possible to Kansas City. I want to play to my strengths. I want to play to who I am.”

This could end up being a good swap long-term but will the loss of leadership affect the reliability of this Chiefs defense in 2022? With western free-agent signings like J.C. Jackson (Chargers), D.J. Jones (Broncos) and the aforementioned Chandler Jones (Raiders), this arms race is just getting started.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:53 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.