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staylor26 01-21-2025 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17926609)
Josh Allen is a good kid and fiery competitor just like Patrick Mahomes. The Bills franchise and fanbase has been through as much playoff pain as the Chiefs. And yet they’re still despised around these parts. If the Chiefs lose to the Bills and they end up playing the Eagles in the SB I’ll be rooting for the Bills.

:facepalm:

You're officially THE ****ing WORST. Good grief.

Rainbarrel 01-21-2025 08:35 AM

The Bills are a divisional rival. More so than the Chargers.

Bob Dole 01-21-2025 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17926609)
Josh Allen is a good kid and fiery competitor just like Patrick Mahomes. The Bills franchise and fanbase has been through as much playoff pain as the Chiefs. And yet they’re still despised around these parts. If the Chiefs lose to the Bills and they end up playing the Eagles in the SB I’ll be rooting for the Bills.

And like most good kids, he should be patted on the head and sent home.

duncan_idaho 01-21-2025 08:59 AM

All right, let's talk about the actual game.

How do the Chiefs win?

1. Be efficient on offense and protect the football. Stay ahead of the chains, wrap up on the ball in the open field. Get the ball out quickly.

2. Attack the Bills' back 7. The safeties aren't great - especially if Taylor Rapp does not play. The CB room is not great, especially if Taron Johnson is injured/lesser and Binford is out from the concussion (I expect him to play, though). The LB play hasn't been fantastic this season. Terrel Bernard hasn't been as good as last year (and has played through a lot of nagging injuries) and Matt Milano is playing with basically one arm right now.

3. Block Ed Oliver. He has been problematic for the Chiefs' offense in recent matchups.

4. Don't let Josh Allen and James Cook run wild. The Bills have a strong running attack and lean into it. The 6-OL approach has been successful. Can the Chiefs' respond to that and hold up against the run with the standard 43 set? Seems like Leo Chenal has to come up big against that 6th OL, a task we've seen him handle before.

5. Defend the middle of the field more effectively. The Chiefs' defense has been outstanding, except for when teams can exploit the middle of the passing field. KC did a pretty good job the first time around, and Buffalo ended up making some big plays down the field against man coverage (Nazeeh Johnson) that honestly were fantastic throws and catches by Allen and his receivers as much as anything else. Hopefully this is an area where Jaylen Watson can make a difference.

6. Be aggressive on 4th downs inside Bills' territory, because you know they're going to be aggressive on you. I'm not saying you pass up points if you're in FG range early (take the points in the first half), but 4th and 3 or shorter needs to be attacked.

7. Lean on Kareem Hunt in the run game. Especially on 3rd downs and in the red zone. It's amazing Pacheco has made it back to this point, but he clearly isn't fully himself right now (and his lack of vision is a real problem with this OL).

8. Spy Josh Allen on 3rd downs and especially on 4th downs that are not tush push. I'd love to see KC break out the game that has been used against KC - with power rushes to the QB's left hand, and a spy looping around for when the QB scrambles right. Allen is much, much better scrambling to his right than his left (though he is still dangerous there, both with his legs and his arm - as that amazing tight window TD pass to Shakir against Sneed in last year's divisional round shows).

9. Make the Bills regret trading with the Chiefs so they could get Xavier Worthy. We saw some of it in the regular season game. Go back to that. Especially with Hopkins fully integrated and Marquise Brown available.

SAGA45 01-21-2025 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17926609)
Josh Allen is a good kid and fiery competitor just like Patrick Mahomes. The Bills franchise and fanbase has been through as much playoff pain as the Chiefs. And yet they’re still despised around these parts. If the Chiefs lose to the Bills and they end up playing the Eagles in the SB I’ll be rooting for the Bills.

Stop breathing

Lzen 01-21-2025 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17926654)
All right, let's talk about the actual game.

How do the Chiefs win?

1. Be efficient on offense and protect the football. Stay ahead of the chains, wrap up on the ball in the open field. Get the ball out quickly.

2. Attack the Bills' back 7. The safeties aren't great - especially if Taylor Rapp does not play. The CB room is not great, especially if Taron Johnson is injured/lesser and Binford is out from the concussion (I expect him to play, though). The LB play hasn't been fantastic this season. Terrel Bernard hasn't been as good as last year (and has played through a lot of nagging injuries) and Matt Milano is playing with basically one arm right now.

3. Block Ed Oliver. He has been problematic for the Chiefs' offense in recent matchups.

4. Don't let Josh Allen and James Cook run wild. The Bills have a strong running attack and lean into it. The 6-OL approach has been successful. Can the Chiefs' respond to that and hold up against the run with the standard 43 set? Seems like Leo Chenal has to come up big against that 6th OL, a task we've seen him handle before.

5. Defend the middle of the field more effectively. The Chiefs' defense has been outstanding, except for when teams can exploit the middle of the passing field. KC did a pretty good job the first time around, and Buffalo ended up making some big plays down the field against man coverage (Nazeeh Johnson) that honestly were fantastic throws and catches by Allen and his receivers as much as anything else. Hopefully this is an area where Jaylen Watson can make a difference.

6. Be aggressive on 4th downs inside Bills' territory, because you know they're going to be aggressive on you. I'm not saying you pass up points if you're in FG range early (take the points in the first half), but 4th and 3 or shorter needs to be attacked.

7. Lean on Kareem Hunt in the run game. Especially on 3rd downs and in the red zone. It's amazing Pacheco has made it back to this point, but he clearly isn't fully himself right now (and his lack of vision is a real problem with this OL).

8. Spy Josh Allen on 3rd downs and especially on 4th downs that are not tush push. I'd love to see KC break out the game that has been used against KC - with power rushes to the QB's left hand, and a spy looping around for when the QB scrambles right. Allen is much, much better scrambling to his right than his left (though he is still dangerous there, both with his legs and his arm - as that amazing tight window TD pass to Shakir against Sneed in last year's divisional round shows).

9. Make the Bills regret trading with the Chiefs so they could get Xavier Worthy. We saw some of it in the regular season game. Go back to that. Especially with Hopkins fully integrated and Marquise Brown available.


Good breakdown. On #5, I'd say Jaylon Watson and Josh Williams should make a big difference in this game, not to mention other players, such as Charles O.

SAGA45 01-21-2025 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17926654)
All right, let's talk about the actual game.

How do the Chiefs win?

7. Lean on Kareem Hunt in the run game. Especially on 3rd downs and in the red zone. It's amazing Pacheco has made it back to this point, but he clearly isn't fully himself right now (and his lack of vision is a real problem with this OL).

This is the one. If Reid commits to the ground game and Kareem with Pacheco and Perine mixed in, everything else falls into place.

Bearcat 01-21-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17926654)

4. Don't let Josh Allen and James Cook run wild. The Bills have a strong running attack and lean into it. The 6-OL approach has been successful. Can the Chiefs' respond to that and hold up against the run with the standard 43 set? Seems like Leo Chenal has to come up big against that 6th OL, a task we've seen him handle before.

Unless the Bills change it up, I suspect it'll look a lot like last year's game where they'll get chunks of yardage between the 20s and the really big thing is holding them to FGs.... last year they really made it a point to use all 50 yards of the LoS with those quick outside passes and what not, probably to help setup Allen running straight up the middle.

duncan_idaho 01-21-2025 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17926667)
Good breakdown. On #5, I'd say Jaylon Watson and Josh Williams should make a big difference in this game, not to mention other players, such as Charles O.

I don't know that I believe Joshua Williams is going to get snaps at CB in this game... Tough to play as much man against the Bills and Allen as you would like, and if you aren't playing a lot of man, Williams is tougher for Spags to trust, it seems.

baitism 01-21-2025 09:16 AM

Worthy is going to have a big game.

O.city 01-21-2025 09:16 AM

You're gonna have to be aggressive me thinks.

TEX 01-21-2025 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 17926678)
Worthy is going to have a big game.

Wouldn't THAT be something!

TEX 01-21-2025 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17926672)
This is the one. If Reid commits to the ground game and Kareem with Pacheco and Perine mixed in, everything else falls into place.

Said this earlier, but charter members of the "Goof Troop" did not approve... This IS the ticket, plus provide Mahomes with protection when we throw. If the run game is working, we'll get some good looks when we pass. Gotta hit them when we do.

irafreak 01-21-2025 09:31 AM

Last year, kelce was able to attack that secondary and that should work again. I expect the chiefs to come out aggressive like they did against Baltimore last afccg. After they got up, they shortened the game and leaned on the defense to keep pressure on Baltimore to make plays. Allen won't wilt like lamar.

I'd imagine this is where hunt will come in to play. Long, time consuming drives with the back that doesn't fumble and finds hidden yards with every run.

Wallcrawler 01-21-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17926685)
Said this earlier, but charter members of the "Goof Troop" did not approve... This IS the ticket, plus provide Mahomes with protection when we throw. If the run game is working, we'll get some good looks when we pass. Gotta hit them when we do.

This was Andy's biggest gaffe in the first meeting. Hunt was grinding up 4-5 on first down, and even Romo was saying that tge qb that can turn and hand the ball off for 5 on first down is probably going to win.

Instead, Andy goes full passing game when the o line couldn't protect a warm cup of piss. Hunt finally got his 12TH touch in the 4th quarter.

Andy can't have a game where a guy positively affecting the game only gets 6-10 carries. None of this oh I should've gotten him the ball more, I take full responsibility and need a mirror.

Mother ****er, look in a mirror on your way to the tunnel. Get this asshole a pocket mirror so he can update himself on doing a better job.

The ONLY way the Chiefs lose this game is if they beat themselves. That's it. Don't step on your dick and you're in your third straight superbowl.

If passing is working, keep doing it until they stop you. Don't stop us for them. If it's the run, grind em jnto the dirt. Don't just inexplicably go away from productive players.

Go full madden cheese, until they stop it.


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