Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17895742)

It's a little funny, though -- I mean aren't the Bengals the AFC version of the Lions?

The Bengals have Hendrickson, the Lions have Hutchinson and the rest of the parts are pretty comparable around their big guns. ESPECIALLY this version of the Lions where most of their key defensive players are hurt.

The offensive weapons are comparable -- the Lions have Gibbs/LaPorta and the Bengals don't, but St. Brown/Williams aren't at the same level as Chase/Higgins either.

And the Lions just keep winning games. Big games against quality opponents. Meanwhile the Bengals keep looking for justifications as to why they lose them.

It's not just talent - the Bengals organizational mindset is just balls.

Zac Taylor's complete refusal to have these guys ready to play when the season starts is one of the strangest damn things I've ever seen. Taylor is 8-15-1 in September since he's been the HC. He's started 0-2 in 5 of his 6 seasons.

It still seems to me like Taylor's an OC masquerading as a HC.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17895854)

The Chiefs traded away Hill and we all saw what happened. The Bills are trying that same approach right now and look like a freight train going into the playoffs.

The Bengals are not only going to retain one WR1, they're going to try and sign TWO.

That should tell fans everything they need to know about Super Bowl "windows".

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17895880)

60 isn't middle of the pack. When you add cuts and rollover it goes up to about 96M.

Also, they only have about 300k dead cap. Every other team in the top 15 has mutimillions in dead cap and only 6 other teams have less than 1M, including the Chiefs.

The ability is there but it's going to take a philisophical change from the front office for any of it to matter.

The ragging on this guy or that guy or front office or coach is what keeps this fun but the truth of the matter is, with an average defense and an average oline, this is a SB contending team.

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17895899)

Good article and what should be a concerning similarity for Bungholes fans.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Joe Burrow on the Carson Palmer frustration train, or is this a temporary setback? <a href="https://t.co/DH7hZFMCIJ">https://t.co/DH7hZFMCIJ</a></p>&mdash; The Athletic Cincinnati (@TheAthleticCIN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCIN/status/1876256416392233304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17895801)

Another season with Burrow still having zero playoff fourth quarter TDs.

Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 17895895)

Yep, I agree, Oline and D was a downfall this year. I had a special interest in Burrow this year(I had him on my fantasy football team), he was very accurate with his passes all year. If we didnt have Mahomes, Id be more than happy with Burrow. But that front office and/or management really needs to dig their heads out of their ass.

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17895899)

Good article and what should be a concerning similarity for Bungholes fans.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Joe Burrow on the Carson Palmer frustration train, or is this a temporary setback? <a href="https://t.co/DH7hZFMCIJ">https://t.co/DH7hZFMCIJ</a></p>&mdash; The Athletic Cincinnati (@TheAthleticCIN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCIN/status/1876256416392233304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17895912)

There needs to be a lot of big changes, some maybe not even realistic, for this team to mean anything.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17895863)

I like this idea.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs should bring in Lou Anarumo to consult for the playoffs. He could assist Spags in designing quarterback torture racks. Those two minds together building bespoke game plans would be insane. Would also be a beautiful F U to the Bengals.</p>&mdash; Adam Best (@Arrowhead_Adam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowhead_Adam/status/1876300340800455131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17895912)

I don't know if that's even possible. I will say, the quick firings was a bit surprising. These assholes like to do/change just enough to keep your interest piqued, but it's going to take way more than that to get this team back to the playoffs.

Penny pinching
Slow starts
Patchwork Oline
Small scouting dept

There needs to be a lot of big changes, some maybe not even realistic, for this team to mean anything.

Catching lightning in a bottle every 30 years isn't a plan for success. Coaches/players from within to replace good people that leave, isn't a plan for success. Trying to re-invent the wheel, isn't a plan for success.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17895922)

If I’m Joe and I want to win rings, **** yes I’m starting to plot my way out.

Get to the NFC. Your odds of reaching the SB increase x10.

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17895918)

If Mike Brown allows history to repeat, it wouldn't be surprising.

Bengals fans can point to philisophical changes over the last 5 years, but those are mostly off-field things and things other teams started doing 10 to 20, if not more, years before the Bengals.

I've always said, this FO is always about a decade behind the rest of the NFL when it comes to changing and adapting.