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AndChiefs 07-14-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10746005)
Salvador Perez has been announced as the starting catcher for tomorrow's all-star game (replacing the injured Wieters). Salvy will bat 9th.

So ridiculous he got in.

Archie F. Swin 07-14-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 10746008)
So ridiculous he got in.

in for the pick off of Puig

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-14-2014 11:20 AM

Adam Dunn is one of the worst players in baseball since he's joined the American League.

Bowser 07-14-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10746016)
Adam Dunn is one of the worst players in baseball since he's joined the American League.

He can still crush from time to time, but his BA has been utter shit, and that's not to mention how often he K's.

That said, at this point right now it would be a legit debate as to who would help a team trying to contend more between him and Butler.

DeepSouth 07-14-2014 11:42 AM

I'm going to go against the Chiefsplanet norm and show a little optimism for the Royals. Before winning 3 our of 4 from the Royals, the Tigers went 3 for 3 against the A's which have the best record in baseball. They also went 2 for 2 against the Dodgers which have the best record in the National League. The Tigers are playing very well. They are bound to cool off a bit.

Also, the Royals have 12 games left in July against four teams. None of those four teams have winning records.

Also, the Royals play many games against Cleveland, Minnesota, and Chicago to finish the year. The sad part is, so do the Tigers. If the Royals can keep pace with the Tigers, they play six games head-to-head in September. I'd rather the Tigers beat the Royals in May, June, July and have the Royals win the games in September.

As PB detests, I still have faith.

ChiefsCountry 07-14-2014 11:50 AM

Just keep winning series.

PS Also go pick up Alex Rios.

TLO 07-14-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10746045)
I'm going to go against the Chiefsplanet norm and show a little optimism for the Royals. Before winning 3 our of 4 from the Royals, the Tigers went 3 for 3 against the A's which have the best record in baseball. They also went 2 for 2 against the Dodgers which have the best record in the National League. The Tigers are playing very well. They are bound to cool off a bit.

Also, the Royals have 12 games left in July against four teams. None of those four teams have winning records.

Also, the Royals play many games against Cleveland, Minnesota, and Chicago to finish the year. The sad part is, so do the Tigers. If the Royals can keep pace with the Tigers, they play six games head-to-head in September. I'd rather the Tigers beat the Royals in May, June, July and have the Royals win the games in September.

As PB detests, I still have faith.

I also have faith. What will give me more faith is adding a bat or two to this putrid lineup.

DeepSouth 07-14-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10746059)
I also have faith. What will give me more faith is adding a bat or two to this putrid lineup.

If they don't bring in another bat, they should get rid of Ibanez. He's pretty much a guaranteed out every time he bats. I'd platoon Dyson and Aoki (Dyson batting over .300 against RHP, Aoki batting over .350 against LHP). I'd bring back Colon. He showed some spunk. It might be my imagination but I think Colon's presence and great rookie game seemed to light a fire under Infinte. Colon also gives the Royals a legitimate backup at SS and 2nd.

BigCatDaddy 07-14-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10745939)
An Aoki/Gomes platoon might not be awful, if Aoki has a strong second half. It's possible he's just finished, but it's also possible he returns to being a .280/.350 hitter, which would still be valuable at the top of the lineup.

I'd prefer an everyday guy, too, but Gomes would be better than doing nothing.
If Aoki continues to be ineffective, Dyson and Gomes would be a pretty nice pairing.



I don't think Dunn helps nearly as much as people seem to think it does. And there's the matter of needing to unload Butler in the deal.

This board has always been higher on Dunn than I think he warrants, though. The HR numbers are sexy... the rest of the package, not so much. I think there's a good reason he's never played on a team that wins consistently.

He'd be fine as a complementary piece if you're asking him to hit 6th or 7th and be a three outcome guy from that spot in the lineup, but if you're asking him to hit in the middle, I think you're going to be disappointed.

I think he's a huge upgrade over Butler and can give Hosmer a day off or a day to DH without losing too much. 2 of those 3 outcomes aren't too shabby. He hit's HR's and gets on base. I also don't think you have to trade Butler. Just use him to PH or release his fat ass. He's affordable in $ and in prospects.

alnorth 07-14-2014 01:13 PM

When was the last time we had a player start in the all-star game? For some reason I'm thinking Damon and/or Dye, but I might be wrong. Anyone know?

Bowser 07-14-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10746246)
When was the last time we had a player start in the all-star game? For some reason I'm thinking Damon and/or Dye, but I might be wrong. Anyone know?

Dye in 2000, iirc

TLO 07-14-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10746246)
When was the last time we had a player start in the all-star game? For some reason I'm thinking Damon and/or Dye, but I might be wrong. Anyone know?

I believe the TV broadcast a few days back said it was Dye in 2000.

duncan_idaho 07-14-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10746186)
I think he's a huge upgrade over Butler and can give Hosmer a day off or a day to DH without losing too much. 2 of those 3 outcomes aren't too shabby. He hit's HR's and gets on base. I also don't think you have to trade Butler. Just use him to PH or release his fat ass. He's affordable in $ and in prospects.

I don't think he's a huge upgrade over Butler. It's just trading one flawed player for another. Dunn is having a better season but it is not any better than the season Butler put up last year. The HR totals are nice but everything else is poor.

Anyway, if you think the Royals are going to release Butler - and still pay him the $4 million they owe him for the rest of the season, as is required - I think you're gravely mistaken. $11 million to go from Butler to Dunn? If they're willing to make that type of cash outlay, there are a lot more impactful guys who could be acquired at that price.

Dunn is also an enormous defensive downgrade from Hosmer. He's a pretty shitty first baseman with no range. Not much difference than playing Butler there, honestly.

ChiefsCountry 07-14-2014 01:32 PM

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Jive Ass 07-14-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10745800)
Baltimore Orioles fans think this is a good trade, probably. But it's far off the mark in what it would take to get Stanton.

Why does Miami - a team that's going nowhere this season - want James Shields?

Why does Miami a middling reliever who's about to hit arbitration and become expensive?

Moustakas and Colon maybe have some value to the Marlins, but as throw in piecess.

This is one of those trades that might work on MLB The Show on Playstation but makes no sense for either team in real life.

You want to talk about a cheap owner who abuses his local fanbase? Talk about Jeffrey Loria, who swindled the city of Miami into building a new ballpark for him with public funds and has since reneged on his "Changed ways" as an owner. He makes David Glass look like Steinbrenner by comparison.

If the Marlins trade Stanton, it will assuredly be for a package centered almost entirely around prospects. There might be 1-2 players with MLB experience in there, but they will be cheap young guys, not established stars with salaries north of $10 million/year.

KC would need to surrender:

RA Mondesi
Miguel Almonte/Christian Binford (pick one)
Ventura/Duffy (Pick one)

and that's just where it STARTS for Stanton. Likely would require a few more valuable pieces.

Substitute Crow for Herrera, but instead of Ventura or Duffy why not tempt them Wade Davis and they can convert him to a starter. He is cost-controlled the next few years which should help them out in their decision.

I wouldn't mind parting with Dyson, Aoki, Collins, Guthrie or Hayes, either. The Marlins can take their pick. ;)


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