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Al Bundy 07-14-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9811225)
Why don't you care about the Rays? It's a peer franchise. We hired Dayton in May 2006 and ended up 62-100. The Rays went 61-100. In 2007 we won 69 and they won 66. About even right?


Five years since, they've gone to the playoffs 4 times including the WS and averaged 92 wins per year. Explain to me why Dayton is still spinning his wheels in his 8th year now when Tampa (with lower payrolls every year) is able to keep winning? How can they "re-build" trading off Shields and getting nothing from Myers and be this good?

They hit on several pitchers, plus they picked first in the David Price draft. Their GM is far better than DM.

tk13 07-14-2013 09:28 PM

That's why while complaining about Glass isn't necessarily "wrong"... there are several teams... teams like Tampa, Cleveland, Colorado, Pittsburgh, Oakland and on and on... that have done more with less money. And that doesn't even include the record spending in the draft and Latin America. If Glass wanted to come out and give everyone a middle finger and tell Dayton he's been given a lot more than other "small" markets... he'd be right.

petegz28 07-14-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9812750)
That's why while complaining about Glass isn't necessarily "wrong"... there are several teams... teams like Tampa, Cleveland, Colorado, Pittsburgh, Oakland and on and on... that have done more with less money. And that doesn't even include the record spending in the draft and Latin America. If Glass wanted to come out and give everyone a middle finger and tell Dayton he's been given a lot more than other "small" markets... he'd be right.

Funny how we do everything opposite of Oakland..

Billy Beane: No bunts...a bunt is an out..

Ned Yost: Bunt him over....

Billy Beane: Take more..if you get on base we win. If you don't, we lose

Ned Yost: See pitch, swing at pitch...WTF is a walk, anyway?

Ceej 07-14-2013 09:41 PM

Anyone care to explain how Greg Holland got into the ASG over Jim Johnson?

What a travesty.

Deberg_1990 07-14-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9812784)
Funny how we do everything opposite of Oakland..

Billy Beane: No bunts...a bunt is an out..

Ned Yost: Bunt him over....

Billy Beane: Take more..if you get on base we win. If you don't, we lose

Ned Yost: See pitch, swing at pitch...WTF is a walk, anyway?

It's not just Yost. The no walk and no patience at the plate thing dates back over 20+ years. It's a decades long organizational fail. But yea, Yost is still a sh*t sandwhich.

C3HIEF3S 07-15-2013 12:09 AM

Zimmer promoted to AA.

siberian khatru 07-15-2013 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 9812950)
Zimmer promoted to AA.

His last four starts: 24 IP, 14 H, 5 ER, 3 BB, 36 K

GloryDayz 07-15-2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9812750)
That's why while complaining about Glass isn't necessarily "wrong"... there are several teams... teams like Tampa, Cleveland, Colorado, Pittsburgh, Oakland and on and on... that have done more with less money. And that doesn't even include the record spending in the draft and Latin America. If Glass wanted to come out and give everyone a middle finger and tell Dayton he's been given a lot more than other "small" markets... he'd be right.

WHile much of what you say is accurate, glASS is DM's boss so he can't point that middle finger into the mirror.

It's simple, he hires people with certain traits. IOW, he like the manegarial version of Rex Hud! He requires yes-men who A) remember their place, and B) no matter what, they're making tons of money for an irrelevant game.

So once again, glASS, his son, and I suspect the whole group who gather around his turkey on Thanks Giving day, are ****ing asshole pieces of shit and whore-ass bitches who are the scum of the earth, the puss in the festering wound... And glASS owns this train wreck because he hired the people who hired the people who hired the people who hire the players.

Prison Bitch 07-15-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 9812735)
They hit on several pitchers, plus they picked first in the David Price draft. Their GM is far better than DM.

Why can't we "hit" on several pitchers? We picked 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 9 under Moore and what the hell did we get? Eric Hosmer, a fat-ass 3B who sucks, a middle reliever who sucks, and a 2B who's fat and stuck in AAA because he sucks.


Seriously let me take over for 8 years. I probably won't win shit but I'll get you 70 wins per year like Dayton did, just by random roster management and drafting in order of BB America's rankings.

dlphg9 07-15-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9812785)
Anyone care to explain how Greg Holland got into the ASG over Jim Johnson?

What a travesty.

Why exactly would Johnson get in over Holland? Because he has more saves?

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9812785)
Anyone care to explain how Greg Holland got into the ASG over Jim Johnson?

What a travesty.

Holland 35 IP, 21 H, 11 BBs, 60 Ks, 0.914 WHIP
Johnson 43.2 IP, 42 H, 14 BBs, 36 Ks, 1.282 WHIP

Holland averages slightly lower HRs and BBs per 9. He also more than doubles Johnson in Ks per 9.

BigCatDaddy 07-15-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9813138)
Holland 35 IP, 21 H, 11 BBs, 60 Ks, 0.914 WHIP
Johnson 43.2 IP, 42 H, 14 BBs, 36 Ks, 1.282 WHIP

Holland averages slightly lower HRs and BBs per 9. He also more than doubles Johnson in Ks per 9.

We know. He was simply mocking ChiefandO's douche.

Al Bundy 07-15-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9813092)
Why can't we "hit" on several pitchers? We picked 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 9 under Moore and what the hell did we get? Eric Hosmer, a fat-ass 3B who sucks, a middle reliever who sucks, and a 2B who's fat and stuck in AAA because he sucks.


Seriously let me take over for 8 years. I probably won't win shit but I'll get you 70 wins per year like Dayton did, just by random roster management and drafting in order of BB America's rankings.

My second sentence says it all.

Ceej 07-15-2013 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9813142)
We know. He was simply mocking ChiefandO's douche.

I figured it was pretty obvious.

siberian khatru 07-15-2013 09:22 AM

Kelvin Herrera's last four outings in Omaha: 10.1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 14 K

He hasn't given up a hit in his last 7.1 IP, and he hasn't had a baserunner in his last 4 IP.


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