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Pasta Little Brioni 06-10-2022 07:50 AM

Better than Denver does not equal good :D

3rd place Faid

OKchiefs 06-10-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16327644)
Nobody should sleep on the Raiders this year. They are going to be good.

lol

-King- 06-10-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16327622)
Did you think they wouldn’t get a deal done?

Adams and Carr literally said their contracts were worked out in a way so that Renfrow would get paid. Absolutely no surprise here.

I thought they would. But I think Renfrow is really really good. I'd rather he not be there :)

duncan_idaho 06-10-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16327644)
Nobody should sleep on the Raiders this year. They are going to be good.

I think they may be a little better than last year, but I don't think the defense was upgraded as much as needed in the secondary (still starting Jonathan Abrams, which means you're either playing him as a box safety/third safety in the nickel or unable to play 2-high), and I don't think the Chandler Jones addition is going to upgrade them much at E over Ngaukie, if any at all.

The offense has a lot of receiving talent, but the OL still has big question marks as well.

They'll be better than Denver, though.

In58men 06-10-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16327715)
I thought they would. But I think Renfrow is really really good. I'd rather he not be there :)

They have Carr still.

Dunerdr 06-10-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16327749)
I think they may be a little better than last year, but I don't think the defense was upgraded as much as needed in the secondary (still starting Jonathan Abrams, which means you're either playing him as a box safety/third safety in the nickel or unable to play 2-high), and I don't think the Chandler Jones addition is going to upgrade them much at E over Ngaukie, if any at all.

The offense has a lot of receiving talent, but the OL still has big question marks as well.

They'll be better than Denver, though.

I didnt understand swapping yannick for Jones.

TEX 06-10-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16327695)
lol

Want to bet?

TEX 06-10-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16327680)
Better than Denver does not equal good :D

3rd place Faid

I'm betting no worse than 2nd place, and that does equal good.

-King- 06-10-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16327752)
They have Carr still.

I mean even with that he had a better year than our #1 had had the past two years combined so I'm not looking forward to him being next to Adams regardless of who the QB is

duncan_idaho 06-10-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16327869)
I'm betting no worse than 2nd place, and that does equal good.

You're placing an awful lot of stock in the addition of Chandler Jones and Davante Adams (and no other real moves).

Have you forgotten what an absolute and abject disaster McDaniels was in his last run as head coach? He showed zero redeeming qualities. His plans sucked, his overall program sucked, his player handling sucked. I don't think running back to the Belichick umbrella for another decade fixed all those issues (it didn't the first time around).

They'll finish 3rd behind KC and the Chargers.

-King- 06-10-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16327896)
You're placing an awful lot of stock in the addition of Chandler Jones and Davante Adams (and no other real moves).

Have you forgotten what an absolute and abject disaster McDaniels was in his last run as head coach? He showed zero redeeming qualities. His plans sucked, his overall program sucked, his player handling sucked. I don't think running back to the Belichick umbrella for another decade fixed all those issues (it didn't the first time around).

They'll finish 3rd behind KC and the Chargers.

I mean...that's a pretty big downplay of adding two elite/very good players to a 10-7 team.

nychief 06-10-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16327913)
I mean...that's a pretty big downplay of adding two elite/very good players to a 10-7 team.



Derrick Carr. I repeat, Derrick Carr.

Kiimo 06-10-2022 10:54 AM

1. KC
2. LA
3. DEN
4. Las Vegas Trainwreck

-King- 06-10-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 16327940)
Derrick Carr. I repeat, Derrick Carr.

Yeah he was the QB when they were 10-7. And now they have either the best or 2nd best WR in the league.

Dunerdr 06-10-2022 01:07 PM

Didnt we beat the shit out of the raiders two times?


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