I'm good with that as well. I'd also be good if we cut the # of WR's in the rotation. Hardman & Moore got 55 snaps between the two of them. F that

Also KT with 12 snaps? I mean, wtf is his value if he's only taking 12 snaps in a game?

I got that way when we moved back and Pickens came off the board.

First page in this thread is pretty, pretty good shit.

LMAO

I should probably dig a little bit, I'm sure I said some goober shit in here as well like "BURT HAS MY COMPLETE TRUST" or something

I was heated and annoyed when they passed on Pickens. I had already told CP that i thought he was a top 3 WR in the draft. Upset with the Steelers who then took him the next pick, and then Indy with Pierce. LIVID when the Chiefs drafted Moore.

Guys i wanted:
Pickens
C.Austin
DK Metcalf
Zay Flowers....

Would loved to have had Trey Palmer, who's looking like a good developmental guy in TB......

Im just some dude behind a computer who isn't trained at this shit at all, but i've been watching the NFL for 31 years, long enough to understand was a real player looks like....

Good STUFF! LMAO

If he runs the wrong route and drops or loses the passes sent his way what does it really matter that he’s “always open”.

Dude drops half the punts he fields standing alone in the middle of the field.

There was a glimmer of hope in the Bears game but outside of that and the Charger game last season he’s been trash as a receiver and has contributed to more losses than wins.

I like the defense that "Pickens is an asshole" cause you know that's really been a reason this team hasn't drafted someone over Reid's tenure.

That's part of the reason i liked him so much. The best WR's have attitude problems and generally get slapped with the diva tag. They're cocky, they're arrogant, they want the ball and they love the spotlight. Those are ballers.

Skyy Moore is a "nice young man".

Shades of Dayton Moore.

Who cant track a ball for shit.

Wearing #24 at WR is why he sucks just admit it, it's a poor decision and looks stupid.

Which is strange because coming out of college he was a plus in press coverage and it was said to be his strongest ability.

The curse of William "Burnt Toast" Bartee strikes again.

Honestly I think the issue is volume. At Western Michigan he was the man and his WR coach is on record saying his main goal was to get Moore drafted in the 1st or 2nd round.

If you look back at his college games he has these type of misses through out his last year of college BUT with the volume he got with multiple 10+ catch games he made it right.

Unless Skyy changes his name too Travis Kelce I don't see Mahomes ever giving the attention that is probably needed for Skyy to become the WR we hoped.

Moore needs Volume

I guess the MAC ain't quite the NFL.

Jerry Rice had the drops his rookie year. So we know that is fixable at least some of the time.

Skyy Moore's ball-tracking skills seem less fixable.

No he doesn't.

The NFL needs a minor leagues that we can send him down to to get his confidence back.

When you convince yourself of things that are simply not true based on the assertions of talking heads...

These are the stupid ****ing conclusions you reach.

And god almighty have there been a lot of stupid ****ing conclusions when it comes to Skyy Moore.

If it were JUST ball tracking, I'd deal with it.

The issue isn't any particular weakness. It's that EVERYTHING is sub-standard. The hands aren't good. The routes are trash. The simple football savvy is bad. He's not physical. He's not explosive.

He doesn't do a single thing at an NFL level. Not one. Even the effort level is erratic and that's the one thing that is 100% wholly within his control.

Guy should be cut in the off-season. He probably won't be, but he doesn't belong on an NFL roster.

He's pretty good at blocking

No he's not. The Chiefs take him out on running plays more often than not.

In the same way Frank Clark set the edge.

He's barely in the top 100 per PFF. And that's largely as a result of the erratic effort I discussed. Moreover, the dude weighs 185 - at his best he's just getting in the way.

His blocking is maybe average but it's the last, most nebulous, rung of the ladder for those still defending him to cling to. It can't be readily set aside, so people still attempt to claim it as fact.

He's no better a run blocker than Frank Clark was an edge setter. But it might well be the least bad of the things he does.

Dude watched the Chiefs and somehow came to the conclusion they need to play and throw to Skyy even more than they actually do LMAO LMAO

No. Just no. This was never a thing. Some of us spent a considerable amount of time trying to explain this only for it to not be accepted. It's time to accept it now.

Every single game has another "Moore - WTF are you doing out there?" moment. And I mean every single one of them. Give him 30 snaps and at least one time he's going to look like a person who's never played the sport before.

And the conclusion is that he needs more reps.

I don't see how anyone stayed on that bandwagon after the middle screen where he clearly just got lost on the field and forced Mahomes to abandon the play to avoid the OPI.

OK, I Am Sam. Do you really think more volume is going to put Moore in the place he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be there? More volume isn't going to get him seperation, more volume isn't going to make him catch touchdowns that fall perfectly into his hands. Moore needs to go ahead and get his insurance license and set up a State Farm office wherever the **** he's from.

This thread and the subject of the thread should both be cut.

This is why I’m skeptical of the twitter defenders pointing at Moore’s separation stats on Next Gen Stats today. Separation doesn’t matter if you’re not where you’re supposed to be on the field.

It's like when everyone was going ga-ga over Justyn Ross making 4 moves in a 1v1 drill to get separation back in TC. Its like, my dudes, that would be very pretty in a Deestroying YouTube video, but that shit doesn't really happen in the NFL, especially in a west coast, timing based offense.

Maybe, but he can smack a ho with gusto!

Guys, just get him the wide open looks like he had in the Super Bowl and he’ll become a TD machine. Just you wait!

He has too much bronco in him

For those just tuning in, someone has concluded that Mahomes is holding Skyy Moore back.

So your solution to the WR problem is to constantly pepper our worst WR with dimes so he can drop them all, we lose our games and then we get a better draft position for the 2024 first round WR pick?

It sounds like we didn’t draft Pickens because veach didn’t think he’d be a cultural fit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> We asked <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrettVeach?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BrettVeach</a> about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> WR position &amp; philosophy at the 2023 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> Scouting Combine. Specifically, we asked him about his draft selections of Mecole Hardman over D.K. Metcalf and Skyy Moore over George Pickens. <br><br>Here&#39;s what he said: <a href="https://t.co/A0uWJQk0a8">pic.twitter.com/A0uWJQk0a8</a></p>&mdash; Starcade Media (@StarcadeMediaKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarcadeMediaKC/status/1718824821146911015?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is 'balto' Italian for dumbass?

Guess so.

No....I'm saying that is why he was more successful in college and that he will never be that here because Mahomes does not focus on 1 WR unless your name is Kelce.

No but 'Womble' is Italian for not being able to read or maybe its comprehend. My Italian isn't great.

Maybe it’s because he was playing in the MAC

Seriously? No.

Man this car is so shitty. I bet if I drive it more it will get faster.

I'm not saying that we should give Moore more volume. I'm saying that was a big part of why he did what he did in college.

Go watch more of his college film or look up stats. He seems to have always had the issues he is having now but the volume he got at Western Michigan allowed to ALSO have the plays that got him draft in the 2nd round.

Could be. Brady turned short white guys with nonexistent college careers into Pro Bowl WRs.

What elite WR isn't an asshole?

you cracked the case. Good job.

Skyy Moore should have been white, that's the problem.

You eat what you kill in the NFL.

If the scouting staff said "Yeah, he's going to fail on about half of the plays designed around him, but if we just give him a TON of them it should all work out in the wash..." then they're idiots.

And I don't believe they're idiots.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid on Monday: &quot;Sky Moore’s going to take heat for dropping the ball. Well, when you look at it on tape, you see that his inside arm was dragged down away from the ball. The officials are human. They do a good job. Sometimes, it’s hard to see everything.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/D93RinnfiK">https://t.co/D93RinnfiK</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1719057437162864744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah I don't think so. Skyy's gotta fight through that. And it's not like he got up looking for the flag.

The team is just trying to save whatever last shreds of his confidence he has left.

Exactly. Skyy should have caught the ball. Looks like he had trouble tracking it. It was a perfect pass, right in his hands. Skyy never even had to break stride. :shake:

Denver’s WR’s were catching passes way more difficult than that.

Lame excuse, Andy.

I’m gonna hope this is one of those things like when Andy kept praising CEH last year despite him getting fewer and fewer snap counts until he was written out of the gameplan.

Or... and hear me out....

Skyy just sucks ass at the professional level.

In other words, Skyy is going to get his reps

If you wrap it around a telephone pole for us, can we collect the insurance?

He average 37 yards a game in September, 11 in October but it's probably 11 for both months if he doesn't get that 54 yard broken play in Jacksonville..dude has been terrible.

Bullshit excuse and we keep making them for him.

CEH loves him

Donovan Smith has been a better receiver than Moore. LMAO

So how can we get Veach and Reid to understand what CP is saying?

Do they not know what is so obvious to every Chiefs fan on the planet?

Someone has to do something at some point.

Naturally.

He’s developing.

WR/BBQ Enthusiast Kelvin Benjamin

LMAO

Andy should have said the QB needs to go for a higher percentage throw, such as McKinnon near the first down line. No need to make excuses for the drop.

MCKINNON WAS NOT ****ING OPEN FOR A FIRST DOWN

The irony is if Mahomes waits just another half second Kelce flashes wide open like he’s playing the Chargers, possibly getting in the end zone and certainly picks up the first down….

Do you think we could get a Cheeseburger and Fries for Skyy Moore?

You can get a McDouble and large fries off the McDonalds app for $3.89.

So....probably not.

Exactly, Skyy is pathetic. He should make a poll to see if the Chiefs want him to leave forever. That would be the ultimate pussy move.

Anyone scouting him is going to see the same things we see.

Beginning to feel sorry for him. I want to think there's a better way to use him that they're missing. Like a pure slot guy with limited routes. But man...there's just been nothing to hang your hat on. Even the things he showed in college and you had to think would translate like decent hands...nope. Awful pick. Kinda angry I defended him for so long.

Special Needs equipment manager that gets to take a garbage time hand-off.

Everyone could carry him off the field on their shoulders like Rudy and we could hopefully set about repairing the poor little fella's confidence...

From this day forward Skyy Moore should be known as "Radio"

That works.

The only problem I can see with it is that Cuba Gooding Jr did a better impersonation of an NFL wide receiver when he played Rod Tidwell than Skyy manages in any given weekend.

Or when he was in Norbit. Or that gay cruise ship movie. Or when he played a one-legged navy diver.

I mean the suspension of disbelief here is just asking a lot.

https://i.imgur.com/EDOSapD.mp4

I still think that was interference but he has to fight off that hand checking. Skyy has spaghetti noodles for arms get in the weight room :D

When he was drafted the thought was Skyy Moore needed to win in the first 5 yards or else.

He doesn't so he is useless.

I’m beginning to think this guy is bad at professional football…..

What stats could he realistically have in the CFL?