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Strongside 05-06-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661239)
Its time to start aiming for the wild card. Detroit's pitching is absolutely monstrous this year.

**** that. If we can stay neck and neck with them, all we need to do is win our games against them and let the chips fall where they may. We have the team to knock them off.

Ebolapox 05-06-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9661178)
Shields is a major reason our opening day starter last year, Hoch, is now in the bullpen where he belongs and not starting fires for us.

FYP

Sannyasi 05-06-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9661254)
**** that. If we can stay neck and neck with them, all we need to do is win our games against them and let the chips fall where they may. We have the team to knock them off.

Detroit has a +52 run differential. Scherzer, Sanchez, and Verlander are in the top 4 in FIP in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. While we're having our plucky come from behind wins Detroit is rolling over teams.

Dartgod 05-06-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661270)
Detroit has a +52 run differential. Scherzer, Sanchez, and Verlander are in the top 4 in FIP in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. While we're having our plucky come from behind wins Detroit is rolling over shitty teams like Houston and Minnesota.

FYP

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661270)
Detroit has a +52 run differential. Scherzer, Sanchez, and Verlander are in the top 4 in FIP in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. While we're having our plucky come from behind wins Detroit is rolling over teams.

Fortunately their bullpen is a dumpster fire. Hopefully they don't get that fixed.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661270)
Detroit has a +52 run differential. Scherzer, Sanchez, and Verlander are in the top 4 in FIP in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. While we're having our plucky come from behind wins Detroit is rolling over teams.

Well, in all fairness, the last 3 games against the Astros have really played into that FIP and run differential.

Not sure the 'Stros really qualify as a "team" . . . .

BigCatDaddy 05-06-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661270)
Detroit has a +52 run differential. Scherzer, Sanchez, and Verlander are in the top 4 in FIP in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. While we're having our plucky come from behind wins Detroit is rolling over teams.

If Paulino and Duffy come back and are about where they were before the injuries I think we can be right there with them. We just need to pick up a bat or two at the deadline. We'll be throwing 5 guys that are either 2 or 3's.

ChiefsCountry 05-06-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9660897)
WS ring would be worth at least a five-year high.

Make it over the Cardinals again and I could take another 20 years or so. :p

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 9661319)
Well, in all fairness, the last 3 games against the Astros have really played into that FIP and run differential.

Not sure the 'Stros really qualify as a "team" . . . .

I wish the Royals could get Altuve from the Astros. I know it would cost a lot, but he would fit in perfectly at 2b.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9661328)
Make it over the Cardinals again and I could take another 20 years or so. :p

Someone asked this question a while back (don't remember who it was?):

Would you rather a team like the Royals be consistently competitive over a number of years, competing (and making) the playoffs, for a time?

Or have one magical season (say, this year) like the Rockies had a few years back that resulted in a Championship? (Yes, I realize the Rockies lost the World Series that year)

What say the masses of Royals fans???

TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9661334)
I wish the Royals could get Altuve from the Astros. I know it would cost a lot, but he would fit in perfectly at 2b.

Yes, that would be nice. He'd be a great fit on our team and fill a pretty big hole, although we have guys in our system that might fill that spot in a couple seasons.

But, as you stated, the cost would be a little prohibitive.

Demonpenz 05-06-2013 09:16 AM

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CaliforniaChief 05-06-2013 09:18 AM

Screw that Wild Card noise. We're coming at Detroit, and we're coming hard.

We're in the toughest part of our schedule, they're in the easiest. And yet we're hanging with them game for game.

We have young players that should improve. They are old.

Verlander is Billy's little bitch, and Gordon's grand slam is still in the air.

alnorth 05-06-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661239)
Its time to start aiming for the wild card. Detroit's pitching is absolutely monstrous this year.

I'm not giving up yet. Our offense still needs to step up, but our rotation is performing as if we had 3 #1's, a #4/5, and a #5.

If we settled for, say the 2nd wild card, we could end up flying to the Bronx, lose the wild card game 5-4, and we're out without having a single game of playoff baseball at the K.

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 9661373)
Yes, that would be nice. He'd be a great fit on our team and fill a pretty big hole, although we have guys in our system that might fill that spot in a couple seasons.

But, as you stated, the cost would be a little prohibitive.

Just saying, if the Royals are going to try to get Utley, they may as well kick the tires on Altuve first to at least get a price tag.

duncan_idaho 05-06-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 9661270)
Detroit has a +52 run differential. Scherzer, Sanchez, and Verlander are in the top 4 in FIP in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. While we're having our plucky come from behind wins Detroit is rolling over teams.

And that run differential was +23 through 26 games before the Astros series (when you beat a team by a average score of 9-2 in a four-game series this close to the start of the season, 30 games into the year, it skews that number a little bit).

Detroit is very good. I don't think they're quite as good as that run differential suggests.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2013 09:30 AM

I had forgotten they played 4 against the Stros. I was thinking 3 games. That makes the run differential even less impressive . . . .

DeezNutz 05-06-2013 09:32 AM

Talk about giving up aspirations of the division title is premature, at best.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2013 09:33 AM

I would be curious to know what the difference was between the run differential of the Tigers versus the Royals, prior to the Astros series???

I realize Detroit was probably higher, but how much higher at THAT point versus now?

alnorth 05-06-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 9661404)
I had forgotten they played 4 against the Stros. I was thinking 3 games. That makes the run differential even less impressive . . . .

They play them 3 more times this week, while we get the Orioles and Yankees.

I expect to lose ground this week, but we still have our Astros games in the future. If we stay within 3 games by the time Sunday is over, we'll be fine. If we're within 2 games, I'll be very happy.

If, somehow, we're actually in 1st place after Sunday, then Detroit will have some ground to make up, but thats unlikely.

duncan_idaho 05-06-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 9661409)
I would be curious to know what the difference was between the run differential of the Tigers versus the Royals, prior to the Astros series???

I realize Detroit was probably higher, but how much higher at THAT point versus now?

The Royals have played 27 games. The Tigers have played 30, or 26 before the Astros series.

They were +23 in 26 games before that series.

The Royals were +17 in their first 26 games this season.

CaliforniaChief 05-06-2013 09:41 AM

Ceding the division to Detroit now would be like ceding an election to the Republicans after hearing that the polls in Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, and Kentucky have closed.

Just wait until the schedule evens out.

alnorth 05-06-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 9661409)
I would be curious to know what the difference was between the run differential of the Tigers versus the Royals, prior to the Astros series???

I realize Detroit was probably higher, but how much higher at THAT point versus now?

That series started on Thursday. On thursday morning, Detroit had 127 RS and 104 RA (+23). KC had 113 RS and 98 RA (+15)

CaliforniaChief 05-06-2013 09:47 AM

Man, I want to sweep Cock Harrelson and the White Sux right out of town. Beating Sale would just be clutch.

Hootie 05-06-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9661169)
not Royals related but baseball. Prince Fielder argues a strike out call TWICE in the same game, and gets nothing more than the stink eye from the home plate ump. Yet, in a different game, Bryce Harper strikes out on a check swing called strike three, argues the call and then gets tossed by the third base ump.

weird stuff
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb

I was appalled by that ejection. It was literally an ego induced ejection, and it made no sense. You're not paid to be the show...just call him out and turn the **** around. Stupid.

duncan_idaho 05-06-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9661463)
I was appalled by that ejection. It was literally an ego induced ejection, and it made no sense. You're not paid to be the show...just call him out and turn the **** around. Stupid.

#UmpShow

Saul Good 05-06-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9661463)
I was appalled by that ejection. It was literally an ego induced ejection, and it made no sense. You're not paid to be the show...just call him out and turn the **** around. Stupid.

The umpire gave a statement and literally said that Harper showed him up. I ****ing hate umpires.

What the **** does that even mean? How do you show up someone who is only there to facilitate the game? It's a ****ing joke.

alnorth 05-06-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9661463)
I was appalled by that ejection. It was literally an ego induced ejection, and it made no sense. You're not paid to be the show...just call him out and turn the **** around. Stupid.

I don't have a problem with the home plate umpire tossing someone. We don't know what was said, maybe something that looks innocent from 50 yards away was full of F-bombs. Also, there are ways to argue without showing up the umpire. (turn around, look away from the umpire, and say your piece while walking back. He'll hear it, but it looks to us that you aren't arguing)

Once you start staring at the ump and yelling at him, your fate is in his hands, but I don't understand the 3rd base ump ever ejecting someone in that situation. If the home plate ump is fine with it, then he should be fine with it.

alnorth 05-06-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9661478)
The umpire gave a statement and literally said that Harper showed him up. I ****ing hate umpires.

What the **** does that even mean? How do you show up someone who is only there to facilitate the game? It's a ****ing joke.

I'm fine with tossing someone for showing up the ump, but that is the home plate umpire's call. It is not the 3rd base umpire's call, unless the play was at 3rd.

TomBarndtsTwin 05-06-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9661427)
The Royals have played 27 games. The Tigers have played 30, or 26 before the Astros series.

They were +23 in 26 games before that series.

The Royals were +17 in their first 26 games this season.

Good stuff. Thanks! :thumb:



(Honorable mention to Alnorth)

Hootie 05-06-2013 10:03 AM

people pay $ to see Bryce Harper.

I would have been seriously pissed if I were at that game and that was the reason he was tossed. It looked like a horseshit call as well.

KChiefs1 05-06-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9661469)
#UmpShow

I miss Steve Palermo.

Archie F. Swin 05-06-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9661497)
I'm fine with tossing someone for showing up the ump, but that is the home plate umpire's call. It is not the 3rd base umpire's call, unless the play was at 3rd.

I'd like to see a split screen of the proceedings to see what Harper did. That ump got offended pretty quickly. I know shit about the temperament of Harper. I'm pretty sure he's not a Matt Kemp type of hot head.

alnorth 05-06-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9661528)
I'd like to see a split screen of the proceedings to see what Harper did. That ump got offended pretty quickly. I know shit about the temperament of Harper. I'm pretty sure he's not a Matt Kemp type of hot head.

I'm reading up on it now. Apparently it was a check-swing call that got appealed to third and the third base umpire rung him up. Harper was expressing his annoyance with the third base ump.

OK, fine I guess it is his call then. In an interview after the game, the third base ump said Harper threw his hands up while holding the bat over his head in a big show, and the ump told him to knock it off. The umpire then said Harper slammed his bat on the ground, the umpire warned him, then Harper spiked his helmet, and only then did he eject him.

If it actually happened that way, then screw that guy, he can't do that. I would have tossed Harper too.

However, its not really clear that it went down that way. I can't see video from the computer I'm at, maybe someone else can describe it. I'm reading that he may have just lightly tossed his bat and helmet towards the dugout, since he was the third out, as if asking the batboy or a coach or someone to take it.

gblowfish 05-06-2013 10:22 AM

I saw it live on MLB channel when it happened. Harper checked his swing, he shouldn't have been called out. But he over-reacted like a big diva. That's what got him punted.

Old Dog 05-06-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9661553)
I saw it live on MLB channel when it happened. Harper checked his swing, he shouldn't have been called out. But he over-reacted like a big diva. That's what got him punted.

Have another peek at the video, he didn't check his swing.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2013 10:34 AM

A month into the season and time to look at what Myers-Odorizzi-Montgomery are doing in Tampa's AAA farm club (Durham NC). Myers is in a 5-34 slump with 15 strikeouts. He's struck out a whopping 37 times in 105 at-bats with 3 home runs and 5 doubles. This is 2x the rate Hosmer & Moustakas struck out at Omaha. Read one analysis (not sure if fan or scout) who said he's looking less and less like Dale Murphy and more and more like....wait for it.....JEFF FRANCOEUR:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...14&position=OF


-On the other hand, Jake Odorizzi is off to a fantastic start 3-0 2.65ERA. He leads that league in K with 39 already to only 13 walks. He started yesterday and helped throw a combined no-hitter.
http://www.mlbprospectportal.com/201...-odorizzi.html


-Mike Montgomery threw 3 innings, allowed 8 baserunners, got hurt and has been out since. Probably no reason to discuss this guy any longer.


-Patrick Leonard is in A-ball. He is hitting .135 in 96 at-bats so far with 0 home runs.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...39&position=3B

CaliforniaChief 05-06-2013 10:41 AM

Quick question.

I'm planning on taking my son down to Crapaheim for the Royals/Angels game on Monday the 13th. It looks like it will be Mendoza pitching. Am I right? Of course there could be rain between now and then.

WhawhaWhat 05-06-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9661593)
Quick question.

I'm planning on taking my son down to Crapaheim for the Royals/Angels game on Monday the 13th. It looks like it will be Mendoza pitching. Am I right? Of course there could be rain between now and then.

Probably too early to guess what the rotation will be. I heard it was supposed to rain in Baltimore this week so people may end up getting skipped, especially Mendoza at the end of the rotation.

alnorth 05-06-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9661593)
Quick question.

I'm planning on taking my son down to Crapaheim for the Royals/Angels game on Monday the 13th. It looks like it will be Mendoza pitching. Am I right? Of course there could be rain between now and then.

Mendoza is very, very likely on Monday. Looking at the forecast in Baltimore, they will probably get all 3 games in one way or another. If Friday gets rained out in KC, they'll be able to make that up this weekend.

CaliforniaChief 05-06-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9661702)
Mendoza is very, very likely on Monday. Looking at the forecast in Baltimore, they will probably get all 3 games in one way or another. If Friday gets rained out in KC, they'll be able to make that up this weekend.

I was really hoping for Shields or Santana. Monday's the only day I can go. I guess I really wanted Santana so I could laugh all night at the Angels for trading him to us for a AAAA pitcher.

The Royals are contenders and the Angels are bottom-feeders.

Schadenfreude. Pure Schadenfreude.

duncan_idaho 05-06-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9661578)
A month into the season and time to look at what Myers-Odorizzi-Montgomery are doing in Tampa's AAA farm club (Durham NC). Myers is in a 5-34 slump with 15 strikeouts. He's struck out a whopping 37 times in 105 at-bats with 3 home runs and 5 doubles. This is 2x the rate Hosmer & Moustakas struck out at Omaha. Read one analysis (not sure if fan or scout) who said he's looking less and less like Dale Murphy and more and more like....wait for it.....JEFF FRANCOEUR:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...14&position=OF


-On the other hand, Jake Odorizzi is off to a fantastic start 3-0 2.65ERA. He leads that league in K with 39 already to only 13 walks. He started yesterday and helped throw a combined no-hitter.
http://www.mlbprospectportal.com/201...-odorizzi.html


-Mike Montgomery threw 3 innings, allowed 8 baserunners, got hurt and has been out since. Probably no reason to discuss this guy any longer.


-Patrick Leonard is in A-ball. He is hitting .135 in 96 at-bats so far with 0 home runs.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...39&position=3B

I hadn't noticed Myers' slump. Could be boredom, I suppose. But the K rate has been alarming ever since he changed his approach prior to last season, and its even more exagerrated than it was before.

I don't think Francoeur makes a ton of sense (because Myers takes more pitches and walks more than Frenacoeur ever did) as a comparison. The one I like is a RH Jay Bruce, though Myers' K rate is even higher as a minor league guy than Bruce's ever was.

Demonpenz 05-06-2013 12:25 PM

Billy driving in runs.

MVChiefFan 05-06-2013 12:54 PM

I think Harper was ejected when he spiked his helmet and the ump got a good look at his hair!

Demonpenz 05-06-2013 01:00 PM

No one likes Harper's attitude and his swing means his back will bust harder than the dude at the end of They Live

Prison Bitch 05-06-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9661844)
I hadn't noticed Myers' slump. Could be boredom, I suppose. But the K rate has been alarming ever since he changed his approach prior to last season, and its even more exagerrated than it was before.

I don't think Francoeur makes a ton of sense (because Myers takes more pitches and walks more than Frenacoeur ever did) as a comparison. The one I like is a RH Jay Bruce, though Myers' K rate is even higher as a minor league guy than Bruce's ever was.

Oh, he's turning into Frenchy more and more by the day. Frenchy was the 28th best prospect in 2004 and 14th in 2005 in BBA. (Myers 28th & 4th last two years). Both 6-3 205. 18.5% K rate vs 24.9% for Myers. Their power numbers looked eeriely similar at both A & AA ball.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=franco001jef
http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=myers-006wil


We'll never know what Frenchy would've done in AAA as he skipped it. But needless to say, Dayton has an eye for Frenchy types. That's why he drafted Myers. :) Either way Myers is looking a lot like Frenchy at least in terms of his ability to make contact.

duncan_idaho 05-06-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9662036)
No one likes Harper's attitude and his swing means his back will bust harder than the dude at the end of They Live

I love Harper's attitude.

He's the most talented guy on the field every time he's out there, and he plays like he's the least talented guy. Busts his a$$ constantly, just plays hard.

Demonpenz 05-06-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9662128)
I love Harper's attitude.

He's the most talented guy on the field every time he's out there, and he plays like he's the least talented guy. Busts his a$$ constantly, just plays hard.

lol

Mr. Laz 05-06-2013 03:11 PM

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2013 Salaries

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color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1,280,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Miguel Tejada</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1,100,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Chris Getz</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1,050,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Salvador Perez</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1,000,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">George Kottaras</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$1,000,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">J.C. Gutierrez</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$750,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Greg Holland</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$539,500</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Tim Collins</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$534,500</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Luis Mendoza</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$532,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Eric Hosmer</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$528,250</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mike Moustakas</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$524,500</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Elliot Johnson</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$520,500</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Kelvin Herrera</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$508,180</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Jarrod Dyson</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$506,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Lorenzo Cain</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$503,180</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Johnny Giavotella</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Nathan Adcock</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Francisley Bueno</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Danny Duffy</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Everett Teaford</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Louis Coleman</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Will Smith</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">David Lough</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$500,000</td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Irving Falu</td><td class="big" style="padding: 0.6em 1.3em; line-height: 1.5em; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">$492,020</td></tr></tbody></table>

KChiefs1 05-06-2013 03:28 PM

Royals bullpen sucks ass!

Hochevar is the best one out there!

Chiefspants 05-06-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 9662804)
Royals bullpen sucks ass!

Hochevar is the best one out there!

The bullpen is fine. Ned's rationale to pull the starter after eight because he's "done his job" is what's concerning.

Ceej 05-06-2013 06:29 PM

God I hope we piss pound the Orioles.

PHOG 05-06-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9663020)
The bullpen is fine. Ned's rationale to pull the starter after eight because he's "done his job" is what's concerning.

Yost's decisions are suspect at best

CoMoChief 05-06-2013 06:46 PM

LMAO at Chen, Franceour, and Hochevar's contracts....my god.

Deberg_1990 05-06-2013 08:02 PM

Francour just raping Glass's wallet.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2013 09:02 PM

It isn't rape if its consensual.

KChiefs1 05-06-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9661578)
A month into the season and time to look at what Myers-Odorizzi-Montgomery are doing in Tampa's AAA farm club (Durham NC). Myers is in a 5-34 slump with 15 strikeouts. He's struck out a whopping 37 times in 105 at-bats with 3 home runs and 5 doubles. This is 2x the rate Hosmer & Moustakas struck out at Omaha. Read one analysis (not sure if fan or scout) who said he's looking less and less like Dale Murphy and more and more like....wait for it.....JEFF FRANCOEUR:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...14&position=OF


-On the other hand, Jake Odorizzi is off to a fantastic start 3-0 2.65ERA. He leads that league in K with 39 already to only 13 walks. He started yesterday and helped throw a combined no-hitter.
http://www.mlbprospectportal.com/201...-odorizzi.html


-Mike Montgomery threw 3 innings, allowed 8 baserunners, got hurt and has been out since. Probably no reason to discuss this guy any longer.


-Patrick Leonard is in A-ball. He is hitting .135 in 96 at-bats so far with 0 home runs.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...39&position=3B


Trade depends on Wade Davis.

KChiefs1 05-06-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9663560)
Francour just raping Glass's wallet.

I bet Glass gives Moore shit about this every time he sees him. Moore's love for Frenchy is remarkable.

Prison Bitch 05-06-2013 09:26 PM

Wtf happened to Montgomery?

Ebolapox 05-06-2013 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9663762)
Wtf happened to Montgomery?

TINSTAPP

Al Bundy 05-06-2013 11:48 PM

2 kick in the nuts losses today.

Archie F. Swin 05-07-2013 07:15 AM

lets exercise the demons...

AussieChiefsFan 05-07-2013 07:48 AM

God damnit. Detroit get a 4 game series vs Houston and then another series vs Houston soon after. :banghead:

duncan_idaho 05-07-2013 07:57 AM

Here's some positive news:

Yordano Ventura's last two starts at AA:

11 IP | 20 K | 5 BB (higher than you'd like to see) | 3 H | 0 R | 0 ER

For the year (six starts):

29 1/3 IP | 43 K | 11 BB | 19 H | 7 R | 6 ER

Works out to an ERA under 2, a K:9 of 13.2, a WHIP of 1.02, and a K:BB of 3.91:1.

Awesome. It would appear his mastery of AA is nearly complete. Next step for him will either be elevating him to Omaha, unless they want him to refine his off-speed pitches some more. I could see him left at Omaha a ittle while longer and told to pitch backwards more often.

Either way, he could be a nice weapon to call up in September and use out of the bullpen.

Prison Bitch 05-07-2013 08:17 AM

When will Dayton get in the faces of Hosmer and Moose and tell them their perforamnce is unacceptable and not tolerated at the MLB level? Doesn't the management have a duty to kick guys in the ass when they perform this badly?

Moose is down to .198 with a .276 slug %. Hosmer has a .326 slug %. These two are the biggest wastes of space. Dudes have 1,000 AB at this level.



P Yovani Gallardo has 2 homers in 16 AB. Yeah: a freaking pitcher for Milwaukee has more homers this year than Punch & Judy do COMBINED. :shrug:

duncan_idaho 05-07-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9664666)
When will Dayton get in the faces of Hosmer and Moose and tell them their perforamnce is unacceptable and not tolerated at the MLB level? Doesn't the management have a duty to kick guys in the ass when they perform this badly?

Moose is down to .198 with a .276 slug %. Hosmer has a .326 slug %. These two are the biggest wastes of space. Dudes have 1,000 AB at this level.



P Yovani Gallardo has 2 homers in 16 AB. Yeah: a freaking pitcher for Milwaukee has more homers this year than Punch & Judy do COMBINED. :shrug:

Maybe when you stop obsessing over it?

Both are showing signs of life, if you do something other than scout box score totals.

Moustakas, for example, has raised his BA 50 points in the past week and raised his OPS 140 points. The level of at-bats he's having has raised significantly.

In that week, he's hitting .320 with a .480 SLG and a .414 OBP. And that includes the 0-4 yesterday (when he batted three times against Chris Sale and once against Matt Thornton, incredibly tough assignments).

Hosmer has been stinging the ball and hitting into a lot of bad luck lately. His approach at the plate has been strong, with good walk rates, and he's been putting good swings on balls he should drive (like the first at-bat against Sale... that ball would have been out of many parks, especially in June/July/August).

Your obsession with being right on this matter severely clouds your judgment.

tredadda 05-07-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9664624)
God damnit. Detroit get a 4 game series vs Houston and then another series vs Houston soon after. :banghead:

They also close the season against Miami. We need to ensure that we have a sizable lead on them going into the final week or so of the season.

Archie F. Swin 05-07-2013 08:37 AM

JFC.....

Baltimore Forecast

Dartgod 05-07-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9664682)
Moustakas, for example, has raised his BA 50 points in the past week and raised his OPS 140 points. The level of at-bats he's having has raised significantly.

In that week, he's hitting .320 with a .480 SLG and a .414 OBP. And that includes the 0-4 yesterday (when he batted three times against Chris Sale and once against Matt Thornton, incredibly tough assignments).

One of those was a 12 pitch AB in the first inning. He ultimately did not get on base, but that was a great AB given his struggles.

Prison Bitch 05-07-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9664682)
Maybe when you stop obsessing over it?

Both are showing signs of life, if you do something other than scout box score totals.

Moustakas, for example, has raised his BA 50 points in the past week and raised his OPS 140 points. The level of at-bats he's having has raised significantly.

In that week, he's hitting .320 with a .480 SLG and a .414 OBP. And that includes the 0-4 yesterday (when he batted three times against Chris Sale and once against Matt Thornton, incredibly tough assignments).

Hosmer has been stinging the ball and hitting into a lot of bad luck lately. His approach at the plate has been strong, with good walk rates, and he's been putting good swings on balls he should drive (like the first at-bat against Sale... that ball would have been out of many parks, especially in June/July/August).

Your obsession with being right on this matter severely clouds your judgment.


Wow, is that you Rex Hudler?

Dartgod 05-07-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9664690)

Dammit. How can we get any consistency when we only play 3-4 games a week?

Dartgod 05-07-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9664693)
Wow, is that you Rex Hudler?

Just. Shut. Up.

Ceej 05-07-2013 08:41 AM

Prison bitch lost all credibility with his awesome insight re: Perry Ellis.

duncan_idaho 05-07-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9664693)
Wow, is that you Rex Hudler?

:rolleyes:

Facts hurt, don't they?

You know what doesn't hurt? When someone who chronically overreacts gets proven wrong and tries to lash out with insults to make himself feel better.

You're still on the "banish Moustakas" bandwagon, even though he has started to turn things around (if you take a look at split stats and recent trends).

Being "right" about needing to yell at Moustakas and banish him to Omaha to "show him it's serious" is more important to you than what is actually happening and can be tracked statistically.

Maybe you should sit a few plays out, and not overreact for a while.

Codered 05-07-2013 08:49 AM

The nice thing about baseball is there usually (not so much this year so far) a game the next day.

It helps when you drop games like yesterday.

Prison Bitch 05-07-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9664710)
:rolleyes:

Facts hurt, don't they?

.

Whoa. You are the one using facts huh? Yeah I just make up the stats. There's really no truth behind what I wrote at all. It's fictional.

Dartgod 05-07-2013 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9664710)
:rolleyes:

Facts hurt, don't they?

You know what doesn't hurt? When someone who chronically overreacts gets proven wrong and tries to lash out with insults to make himself feel better.

You're still on the "banish Moustakas" bandwagon, even though he has started to turn things around (if you take a look at split stats and recent trends).

Being "right" about needing to yell at Moustakas and banish him to Omaha to "show him it's serious" is more important to you than what is actually happening and can be tracked statistically.

Maybe you should sit a few plays out, and not overreact for a while.

He's background noise.

Prison Bitch 05-07-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 9664692)
One of those was a 12 pitch AB in the first inning. He ultimately did not get on base, but that was a great AB given his struggles.

ROFL


Anyway back to reality. By my calcs Moose has to hit .361 the rest of the way to finish at .300. Obv wont happen but if he hits .300 from here out he can finish at .250. (That's how buried he already is)

Dartgod 05-07-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9664737)
ROFL


Anyway back to reality. By my calcs Moose has to hit .361 the rest of the way to finish at .300. Obv wont happen but if he hits .300 from here out he can finish at .250. (That's how buried he already is)

Thanks for proving my point that you're nothing but a broken record. Background noise.

Dartgod 05-07-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9664737)
ROFL


Anyway back to reality. By my calcs Moose has to hit .361 the rest of the way to finish at .300. Obv wont happen but if he hits .300 from here out he can finish at .250. (That's how buried he already is)

Here's more proof that you're a moron.

I don't know what numbers you are using to calculate this (obviously flawed), but if he ends up with the same number of ABs for the season as last year (563) and he hits .300 the rest of the way, he'll end up at .283. At a more conservative 500 ABs, he'll finish at .281.

I'm not saying he's going to hit .300 the rest of the season, only pointing out that you don't know what the **** you are talking about.


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