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Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16558571)
Not that I necessarily agree with it but Toub is consistently among the highest rated ST coaches in the league by most of the advanced metrics. I will see if I can find the article.

And again im not saying I agree but Megatron didn’t just pull it out of his ass.

Probably because Butker is incredibly good at his job and our coverage units are typically well disciplined. But that still doesn't excuse some of that bullshit up above that goes on under his watch.

Coochie liquor 10-27-2022 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16557750)
Ok, interesting trade, and one that I was suggesting before the season started...

BUT I probably would've rather had Quinn for a 3rd than Toney.

Also, would rather have OBJ than Toney.

Plus a whole host of other names, but also not the last name on my list.

Our WR room is getting really interesting, moving forward we have some talented young guys in Moore, Toney, and Ross but we have no clue yet if they will ever be healthy AND perform.

Quinn has been shit this year.

Megatron96 10-27-2022 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558554)
LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Based on what, exactly? Because we've had some spectacular gaffes with our special teams in recent years.

Remember the gap between the long snapper and right guard that would constantly get exploited for blocked punts? Pepperidge Farm remembers, especially since it happened in the playoffs, TWICE.

Remember the constant flags on our return units for stupid ass shit like blocks in the back and holds? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember the fact that we constantly have to keep one or two roster spots open exclusively for special teams JAGs that contribute literally nothing else at a to the team? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember constantly trotting out Skyy Moore to field punts even though he's shown some incredibly poor habits dating back to preseason that ultimately led to us actually losing a game? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Based on Football Outsiders' and ESPN's analysts' opinions. Based on his record. Sure, his teams have made mistakes; name one ST group that hasn't made a few every season. But Toub has consistently coached up his STs to be among the best in the NFL year after year. This isn't hyperbole, just google Dave Toub record or ranking or whatever. It's all there in black and white.

"Toub joined the Chicago Bears coaching staff on January 24, 2004, as the special teams coordinator. On February 27, 2007, Toub signed a three-year extension with the Bears, keeping him under contract through the 2009 season. The Bears' special teams unit was highly successful in 2006; kicker Robbie Gould, return specialist Devin Hester, and gunner Brendon Ayanbadejo were voted to the 2007 Pro Bowl. On April 5, 2007, Toub was voted special teams coach of the year by his peers.[3] His special teams unit was ranked at the top of the league for the 2006 and 2007 seasons.[4] For the last eight years, the Bears special teams have been in the top three, and was ranked third by rankings performed by the Dallas Morning News.[5] In 2008 he was elected to the USA Today All-Joe team."

Links to articles that declare Dave Toub as the GOAT of ST coaches:
https://ontapsportsnet.com/bears/dav...ms-coordinator

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/06/...ave-toub-goat/

https://www.aol.com/news/mt-rushmore...142708749.html


Apparently, you should stop listening to Pepperidge Farms and start reading actual NFL analysts' opinions, bud.

Coochie liquor 10-27-2022 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16557802)
LMAO Uh oh. Saw something in his tweet replies that could ruffle more than a few feathers.

Spill it…. Please kind sir…

jettio 10-27-2022 05:33 PM

I hope the chiefs planet salary cap worry warts will not have trauma from the last 4 letters in his name being the same last 4 as money.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:34 PM

LMAO Jesus ****ing Christ, could you post some escalades from the 2010s at least?

staylor26 10-27-2022 05:35 PM

Rumor is that the Giants are looking for a WR now and they are particularly interested in Jeudy.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16558606)
Rumor is that the Giants are looking for a WR now and they are particularly interested in Jeudy.

So they traded away the mystery box that has potential but could be nothing but shit and are now going after the guaranteed box of shit? Smart move.

raybec 4 10-27-2022 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558577)
Probably because Butker is incredibly good at his job and our coverage units are typically well disciplined. But that still doesn't excuse some of that bullshit up above that goes on under his watch.

I don't think you can give players all the credit for the good coaches all the blame for the bad.

RunKC 10-27-2022 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558554)
LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Based on what, exactly? Because we've had some spectacular gaffes with our special teams in recent years.

Remember the gap between the long snapper and right guard that would constantly get exploited for blocked punts? Pepperidge Farm remembers, especially since it happened in the playoffs, TWICE.

Remember the constant flags on our return units for stupid ass shit like blocks in the back and holds? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember the fact that we constantly have to keep one or two roster spots open exclusively for special teams JAGs that contribute literally nothing else at a to the team? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember constantly trotting out Skyy Moore to field punts even though he's shown some incredibly poor habits dating back to preseason that ultimately led to us actually losing a game? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

I will say Butker was an amazing find. He’s a top 3 kicker statistically.

And Townsend has been an elite punter this year both statistically and in the eye test.

He has more value than you give him

staylor26 10-27-2022 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558609)
So they traded away the mystery box that has potential but could be nothing but shit and are now going after the guaranteed box of shit? Smart move.

Daboll and Jeudy have a history at Alabama.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16558613)
Daboll and Jeudy have a history at Alabama.

Then he should know the dude has greased bricks for hands.

jettio 10-27-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558554)
LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Based on what, exactly? Because we've had some spectacular gaffes with our special teams in recent years.

Remember the gap between the long snapper and right guard that would constantly get exploited for blocked punts? Pepperidge Farm remembers, especially since it happened in the playoffs, TWICE.

Remember the constant flags on our return units for stupid ass shit like blocks in the back and holds? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember the fact that we constantly have to keep one or two roster spots open exclusively for special teams JAGs that contribute literally nothing else at a to the team? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember constantly trotting out Skyy Moore to field punts even though he's shown some incredibly poor habits dating back to preseason that ultimately led to us actually losing a game? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

I remember there are quite a few assholes around here that do not know shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League but I get them confused and cannot tell them apart.

How about you post the plus minus of special teams scoreboard points of Chiefs since 2013 compared to every other team in the league?

Megatron96 10-27-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558604)
LMAO Jesus ****ing Christ, could you post some escalades from the 2010s at least?

The word you're looking for is "accolades,' hun. "Escalade," is the act of scaling defensive walls or ramparts with the aid of ladders.

And you might try working on your reading comprehension. That first linked article is from earlier this year. The second is from 2018.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16558616)
The word you're looking for is "accolades,' hun. "Escalade," is the act of scaling defensive walls or ramparts with the aid of ladders.

And you might try working on your reading comprehension. That first linked article is from earlier this year.

Aww, come on, that's an old CP Lexicon word.

Edit: based on this spectacular quote by Jamaal Charles
"I'm just continuing to play football and I'm very blessed to get all the Escalades." -- Jamaal Charles


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