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Three7s 07-10-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739081)
Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

I'd sure love it if they went and brought up Lamb and gave him a shot. Sadly, we know this won't be the case.

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10739299)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Lane Adams (AA) is the only other OF on the 40 man roster. Plus, he bats RH.

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10739309)
I'd sure love it if they went and brought up Lamb and gave him a shot. Sadly, we know this won't be the case.

It couldn't be any worse that what Brooks did in his one start. They have until Sunday (Vargas's next scheduled start) to decide.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-10-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10739299)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:deevee:

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739081)
Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

Could Lamb start Sunday (only three days rest)? I like the fact he's a LHP like Vargas.

TLO 07-10-2014 08:38 AM

Get well soon Gordon and Vargas!

duncan_idaho 07-10-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10739339)
Could Lamb start Sunday (only three days rest)? I like the fact he's a LHP like Vargas.

I wouldn't push a guy like that. I was thinking they were off today when I wrote the original post about Lamb, which would have allowed Lamb to go on normal rest on Monday.

It has to be Chen. But they're talking about Vargas missing 3-4 weeks with this thing. That doesn't make much sense, considering they caught it before his appendix ruptured. Should be a 3-5 day recovery.

Kansas City Kid 07-10-2014 08:45 AM

Gotta take at least three out of four here. No worse than a split.

TLO 07-10-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739351)
I wouldn't push a guy like that. I was thinking they were off today when I wrote the original post about Lamb, which would have allowed Lamb to go on normal rest on Monday.

It has to be Chen. But they're talking about Vargas missing 3-4 weeks with this thing. That doesn't make mhc sense, considering they caught it before his appendix ruptured. Should be a 3-5 day recovery.

Exactly what I was thinking. I had my appendix out recently, and I was feeling basically back to normal in about 5 days.

I don't see where this 3-4 weeks stuff is coming from.

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739366)
Exactly what I was thinking. I had my appendix out recently, and I was feeling basically back to normal in about 5 days.

I don't see where this 3-4 weeks stuff is coming from.

With four days off for the All Star game next week, he could only miss his Sunday start. He could be pushed to the back of the order starting next Friday (Jul 18). Although, I like Vargas pitching between Shields and Ventura. A finesse LHP throwing between two hard throwing RHP.

RockChalk 07-10-2014 09:03 AM

One thing we know about Chen. He'll either go 6ip 2-3ER's or we'll be out of the game by the 2nd inning. No in-between with that guy.

tomahawk kid 07-10-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10739299)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Did we ever get a confirmation on what the deal is with Gordo's wrist?

Assuming its just a sprain?

TLO 07-10-2014 09:05 AM

Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739388)
Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

You do make a viable option since all the relieve pitchers except for Holland will have four days off. Whoever starts would not have to go deep in the game knowing all your relievers (depending on who had to pitch the previous day) could contribute.

Canofbier 07-10-2014 09:29 AM

Deadspin just published a short-but-sort-of-interesting article about the idea of longer at-bats resulting in better offense. Their analysis is pretty limited in scope, but I'd expect that we'd see at least a bit of a relationship between P/AB and runs scored if the two were truly related.

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Being Patient At The Plate Doesn't Correlate With Scoring More Runs

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If you want a good baseball offense, you need to milk to pitch count. That's what it says in Moneyball, and it's been Red Sox gospel under Terry Francona. But as the graph above from The Hardball Times shows, it isn't significantly related to offensive production.

From 2010 to 2013 teams who see more pitches per plate appearance have had both low offensive production (Red Sox, Mets, Phillies) and high production (Blue Jays, Athletics, Indians). Whether looking at runs scored or team offense (wRC+), correlations with plate patience were negligible.

This doesn't seem to be just some effect of the league catching up with the trend, either. We went back a bit further and looked at pitches per plate appearances in 1999. In 1999 batters saw a similar amount of pitches per plate appearance as they did in 2010 (3.73 in 1999, 3.82 in 2010). And like post-2010 trends, there was no significant correlation (0.19) in 1999 between pitches per plate appearance and runs scored.

The only significant relationship found in the article is that patient teams were more likely to garner another at bat when a starting pitcher is going through the lineup for the fourth time. But this resulting added at bat generally happens at the bottom of the lineup, which reduces its impact.


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