I just said in another thread, I’m yearning for the days of Pringle and Robinson.

That’s how bad this is.

ya those 2 would be pretty big upgrades right now


Toney isn't the guy either, he'll probably run his contract up and not take the 5th year option and be done.

Skyy was a bad pick. Like Verderame has been saying he just can’t play the NFL game. The sooner we move on the better. Addition thru subtraction and all that.

Should see if we can get Adam Theilen for Skyy Moore and a fourth. Carolina isn’t going anywhere and maybe they can get something out of Skyy?

Hate to say this but George Pickens doesn't drop that TD pass.

Veach missed on him unfortunately

I’ve heard it said on various shows and podcasts this year that there were FA WRs interested in coming to KC for a ring tour but the Chiefs didn’t really pursue any of them. I wonder if Thielen was one

Skyy Moore has 0 trade value

He'd put the eggs in with the laundry detergent. Hard pass.

The guy is completely useless.

Yep. That was the moment I felt we lost the game. Skyy is bad at football.

Hate to say it but Varch missed on this one. For as many snaps as he gets he just disappears for most of the game.

Not too many moments he appears. Extremely disappointing that a guy who looked like a crisp route runner with sure hands can't seem to do either in the pros. I have to believe, at this point, the mental aspect here is too much because when players are out there thinking too much at this level they fail.

If I’m Mahomes there is no way I target Moore even if he’s wide open. Guy can’t catch or run good routes.

His snap count needs to decrease SIGNIFICANTLY going forward.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is going to have a lot of fun throwing to Skyy Moore. Wins right off the line with great hands. Lots of smiles in Kansas City.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1520205251185414147?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL Sure he can do all of that against shit competition at Western Michigan.

This didn’t age well.

It won’t.

Complete bust. It happens to everyone, cut him and move on.

The trade deadline is looming larger than ever, Hardman was a legit shot in the arm... but we still need something else, its getting stupid when Mahomes has half an hour to throw and NO ONE is open

But they won’t, and that’s the problem. They’re going to keep playing him and giving him key targets.

I'd love to hear a coach explain why Rashee Rice doesn't get Moore's snap counts at this point. Saying one is an X while the other is a Y doesn't count, either. Moore is straight up a liability when he's on the field.

I know, I watch CEH get carries every week.

What are we talking here? 9mm? .45 ACP? .357 Magnum?

He’s so bad, like….no reason to be in the league bad

All the analytics and draft scouting suggested to me that Skyy should be a slot type guy you expect to catch anything and it'd be up to coaches to find ways to get him open around the hashes / short out routes to the SLs. Not a "ehhh **** it Tyreek is probably down there somewhere" guy.

Toney is pure useless as well

I straight up just want him to be cut because I'm vindictive and want to see him earn as little money as possible. Guy deserves to be earning less than minimum wage in a sweat shop.

Because Rookies can't perform in the Andy Reid system.

I know I heard that somewhere...

I can't decide which has been more entertaining in this process - the excuses or the shifting baselines.

Yeah, where was he today? He ran that inside run right into the defensive tackle early on, then he was never heard from again.

As I posted in another thread, they stopped using him as a WR after Game 1

Yet he’ll play 40 snaps next week while our D has to contend with Hill and Jaylen Waddle.

Yeah, lost in all the excitement but he’s been an even bigger issue than any of us thought.

I figured the dude would spend half the season or more in the ice tub, but halfway through the season he has nearly single-handedly cost us the game in week 1 and only 100 yards on the season.

I mentioned during the GDT thread that I hadn’t checked the stats but was certain there’s no way Toney is averaging more than 6 yards per catch. I was right- he’s averaging 5.8.

That is dreadful.

While most likely true, why do we seem to run the absolute worst plays for him? It's almost like we're determined to run plays for him that are guaranteed to fail...

He. Can't. Run. A. Dig. Route.

This isn't the coaches fault. He'll be no better in the slot than he is out wide. Or as the quarterback. Or placekicker.

There's nowhere to hide the guy. He's not an NFL player.

It’s mind boggling

Ross is our best receiver outside of Kelce. It’s not fair but Rice needs to really up his game because the other wrs are garbage. Andy will get this shit figured out hopefully.

I really thought this guy was going to step up. **** all of these receivers. Rice doesn’t even get a pass because he’s a drop machine too

We’re using him purely as a gadget guy it seems. That is frustrating. Can the dude not line up and win running a normal route tree?

You just know the player is gonna bust when he shows no flashes in Year 1. The writing was on the wall. We have all seen it for some time now but refuse to accept it. This kid has bird poo for brains. Complete lack of football IQ. The small stature don't bother me. He has zero "it" factor. Edelman was small but he had a hell of a career. You need to draft smart players first and foremost. Athletic traits at the wideout position are overrated. Draft smart kids with strong football IQ.

Moore’s ceiling as a pro right now is to become a 5th or 6th WR who can contribute on special teams and won’t kill you if they need to sub in for an injury.

I’ll admit. Even that seems like a stretch.

Yeah...good luck with that!

Definitely not happening as a punt returner

I posted when people wanted to cut Justin Watson that he could a strong #2 or weak #1.

I know some chuckled but I think it's more true now and I still stand by it.

He needs more playing time.

On the other side of the coin, Blake Bell has regressed.

Theoretically his best position on special teams would be to play as the ball. We snap Moore to Buttker who boots his head clean off for a 60 yard field goal.

He doesn’t play special teams, so it’s hard to make the case for him being on the team if he isn’t catching passes

I don’t disagree.

I’m saying he better figure how to play STs in some capacity if he wants to stick around the league. You don’t keep a 5th or 6th WR like him if they can’t.

Skyy can’t separate…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9pXQoWW...png&name=small

skyy is starting to remind me of william bartee

second round pick
wears 24
sucks ass
coaches keep force-feeding him PT because he's a second round pick
doesn't get better
keeps sucking ass

Great graphic! What about the others?

The rushing one hit a bit of a problem with CEH. It's not designed for negative numbers.

I'm fine with Rice being the only WR left and replacing the rest after the year at this rate.

I remember in the preseason I was so excited we had 12 WRs and could only keep 7. Now it appears just 1 of them is worth a damn.

:LOL:

Is nobody else impressed that Moore got separation against Surtain?

Should have never traded Smith-Marsette.

For the rest of my life every time I see the highlights of the Super Bowl against the Eagles and Skyy catches that TD pass, I'll think we were lucky as hell that he caught the ball.

Of course we were. There was still plenty of time left and that would have only hyped the D up more

The dude is showing some real struggles tracking balls in the air. He also missed one on the 4th and 25 play against the Lions.

At this point, there’s just not a lot he’s showing he can bring to the table.

Surtainly not.

Here's hoping he cut this off season. As has already been said, he doesn't even appear to have football IQ on the field. Doesn't get open. Can't catch the ball.

Yep. Should have caught that too.

So enough of a sample size where he’s clearly not able to track anything that isn’t right at his chest.

Those are the two times this year I've screamed "Catch the ****ing ball!" at the TV.

I think we win both games if this turd makes a play.

The dude is straight trash. Even staylor isn't defending him at this point. That should tell you all you need to know...

Anybody catches that pass. He was wide open. Nobody near him. In fact, the DB was running away from him. Hell, most of us catch that pass.

I'm not a follower of college football anymore but what made him so special in college?

Any idea why it's not translating in NFL?

I remember this board was ecstatic when we picked him.

The board was split. Some of us hated it. I think most of the Skyy apologists finally get it now.

He also got separation from the ball. Which was right in his hands.

I was one of them. In college his YAC was very good, excellent hands and he seemed to get good, quick separation. What I was wrong about was...everything. He can't shake guys without a lot of time and movement, he's more affected by press than I imagined, he can't track the ball which seems an entirely new thing and a regression, and he is far less dynamic after the catch. He's a bust.

Yeah, I've seen enough.

Moore is a 'miss'.

It's time to end the experiment and move him way down the pecking order.

I wasn't crazy about him as a prospect, but I let myself be talked into the advanced metrics such as the 'success rate' stuff in the OP.

Perhaps he's just not mentally tough enough, I don't know.

It's time to simplify things, and play Rice most snaps.

We could of had Pickens…

That really is the ultimate sign that a guy is a lost cause lol

He doesn’t have a lot to commend his game except college numbers piled up against inferior competition.

Just bench him. Cut your losses now and give Rice more snaps.

I didn’t want him pre draft but had a definite wait and see approach. I didn’t write him off for his small school background. I stand by it.

Well we have waited and seen, and he’s a bust. Move on.

Yesterday, Rice had more snaps than any receiver not named Kelce. What he needs is 2 things:

1. More Targets from the O (he only had 5 targets yesterday. MVS had 9 with virtually the same number of yards)
2. Stop dropping passes that hit you in the gawdamn hands

His drops suck,

But he's been way more consistent than any other WR. I'll take drops if hes getting yards on the catches he does have.

The #1 thing i'll always remember about Skyy Moore was how pissed i was when the Chiefs drafted him. I've never been angry about a Chiefs draft pick other than Moore.

Yeah - but you're just a hater.

Yeah, uh huh. This post doesnt even do it justice how pissed i was that day.

Just as i was a "Justyn Ross Hater" too.

Yeah hes got dropsies issues. I'm okay with accepting hes gonna drop 1-2 easy ones a game. He actually gets open and has playmaking ability when he gets the ball.