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RunKC 03-21-2022 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16205247)
Let’s go waaayyyy outside the box….down the street into a spacex rocket and go into space.

Trade 30 and to Seattle for DK AND picks 109 and 145.

It’s like the modern/offense version of Buddy Ryans 4-6. You completely overload the passing game with no way for the opposing defense to have enough talent to cover it all.

The cap space comes from the Orlando and Tyreek extensions.

Mahomes
Hill
DK
Juju
Hardman
Kelce

I’m honestly not sure how any defense in history could defend that.

That would give us a bunch of picks to make the defense pretty damn special in its own right, too…outside of maybe picking a speed back in the mid rounds…maybe Dalvin Cooks brother.


Hold it in just a little longer….




Ok, exhale

Do what the Bengals did and drop 8 and let Patrick sit back there while you can double cover almost every receiver bc Andy won’t run the ball

BossChief 03-21-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16205287)
Do what the Bengals did and drop 8 and let Patrick sit back there while you can double cover almost every receiver bc Andy won’t run the ball

That might be semi effective when you’re trotting out Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle out there for big snap counts.

staylor26 03-21-2022 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16205287)
Do what the Bengals did and drop 8 and let Patrick sit back there while you can double cover almost every receiver bc Andy won’t run the ball

Yea, because that was the problem, not Mahomes playing like absolute dog shit.

FloridaMan88 03-21-2022 09:36 PM

No one wants to pay for veteran free agent RB’s… shocking.

Link: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...fournette/amp/

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Running backs rarely get paid a lot of money in free agency. The best ones usually stay with the teams with which they became stars, since the money is rarely if ever better for them on the open market.

This year, plenty of running backs with name recognition are finding the going slow in free agency.

Former Chargers and Broncos running back Melvin Gordon, for example, has received very limited interest. And that’s possibly an overstatement. Likewise, former Jaguars and Buccaneers running back Leonard Fournette, who was hoping to get (we’re told) $12 million per year, continues to wait.

RunKC 03-21-2022 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16205299)
Yea, because that was the problem, not Mahomes playing like absolute dog shit.

Mahomes playing poorly like that really is terrifying bc he was the breaking through for us.

Never ever thought we would go full “because Chiefs” with Patrick

htismaqe 03-21-2022 09:41 PM

No more big trades. The bills are due, time to pay them once and move on.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2022 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16205303)
No one wants to pay for veteran free agent RB’s… shocking.

Link: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...fournette/amp/

BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Yeah - good luck with that, Lenny.

He'll be fortunate to get $8 million per and even that is likely an overpay. I'd rather have Edmonds and he got $6 million.

The Franchise 03-21-2022 09:44 PM

Someone has been lying to Fournette. You aren’t worth $12 million a season, bro.

BossChief 03-21-2022 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205310)
No more big trades. The bills are due, time to pay them once and move on.

Conventional wisdom would say that’s correct.

Trading for DK wouldn’t necessarily hurt the cap till 2024, though. He plays on the last year of his rookie deal this year and gets an extension next offseason with a low first year cap hit. A rookie would have 4-5 years of cost control, but also risk in not providing relative return. DK is a sure thing and would be very low cost to the cap the next 2 seasons.

At that point, Kelce is winding down and Andy may be, as well.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-21-2022 10:14 PM

When we extended Damien Williams a few years ago, he got 2 year $8 million. Fournette would probably be considered slightly better. I'd pay $6 million on his best day. Team friendly is $4 million a year. Dude is out of his mind. Several good RB's will be out there in day two and three of the draft.

Tribal Warfare 03-21-2022 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16205304)
Mahomes playing poorly like that really is terrifying bc he was the breaking through for us.

Never ever thought we would go full “because Chiefs” with Patrick


I really do Believe he was told to play like that because there isn't a logical answer after his performance against the Bills

htismaqe 03-21-2022 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16205323)
Conventional wisdom would say that’s correct.

Trading for DK wouldn’t necessarily hurt the cap till 2024, though. He plays on the last year of his rookie deal this year and gets an extension next offseason with a low first year cap hit. A rookie would have 4-5 years of cost control, but also risk in not providing relative return. DK is a sure thing and would be very low cost to the cap the next 2 seasons.

At that point, Kelce is winding down and Andy may be, as well.

There's not a chance at all that the Seahawks trade Metcalf.

The Franchise 03-21-2022 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205390)
There's not a chance at all that the Seahawks trade Metcalf.

I really wish that bullshit idea would end.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2022 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16205396)
I really wish that bullshit idea would end.

Yeah I really enjoy how some dipshit managed to speak a rumor into existence.

BossChief 03-21-2022 11:26 PM

I’m mainly just thinking out loud. DK is just the name I chose because they don’t have a QB and by the time they do, DK will need a mega contract. I’d personally prefer to draft a WR, but it’s fun to think what Veach and Reid could do with this offense if they really wanted to push the chips in while they still have Andy and Kelce at the top of their games.

Simply Red 03-21-2022 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205399)
Yeah I really enjoy how some dipshit managed to speak a rumor into existence.

I agree, it was odd. Are you pleased with KC signing JuJu?

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 06:31 AM

I'm liking the idea of a trade this am more and more...

1) The Draft: I've been high on D London, J Williams and D Wyatt, but it's likely all three will be gone by our pick, Williams is injured, and even if Wyatt was there he only had 5 sacks in 4 years so maybe we're getting a little overhyped on him. #30 seems like a tricky spot for a pass-rushing DE also, Ojabo is injured and Karlaftis is more of a run stopper, there are opportunities for Pass Rushers later in the draft. Starting to feel like we might go DB, but CB really hasn't been are thing early in the draft and we just picked up Reid.

2) We're in win-now mode and could us a dynamic player. Tyler Locket, DK Metcalf, Chris McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Kamara, a young impactful EDGE!?

I'm curious what's available out there, and if we can get a later pick back in the deal then even better.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 06:34 AM

We're still suffering from the Frank Clark trade. I can't imagine anyone would want us to keep doing that.

Unless you're getting a 25-year old ascending player like we did with OBJ (which rarely EVER happens, BTW) it's really not worth it.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205481)
We're still suffering from the Frank Clark trade. I can't imagine anyone would want us to keep doing that.

Unless you're getting a 25-year old ascending player like we did with OBJ (which rarely EVER happens, BTW) it's really not worth it.

Is there a young EDGE out there that's worth the pick that we can get?

If not, maybe overpowering the offense IS the thing.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16205484)
Is there a young EDGE out there that's worth the pick that we can get?

I think if there were, somebody here would have figured it out by now and would be pounding the table for it.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 06:41 AM

Say, Wyatt and all the top-flight WR's are gone, I think I'd be good with Mafe at #30.

But it would be a lot more exciting to have DK Metcalf, T Locket, or C McCaffrey etc.

TambaBerry 03-22-2022 06:41 AM

Well Fournette just got paid by the Bucs

Red Dawg 03-22-2022 06:53 AM

**** the Bucs and **** Brady.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16205502)
**** the Bucs and **** Brady.

:bravo:

Red Dawg 03-22-2022 06:57 AM

The wheels gotta come of Brady at sone point or he should be investigated for drugs. His ass has got to be on something. No player in any other sport would even be remotely considered clean at his age.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16205511)
The wheels gotta come of Brady at sone point or he should be investigated for drugs. His ass has got to be on something. No player in any other sport would even be remotely considered clean at his age.

He drains life force every time he kisses a teenage boy.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 07:01 AM

J Clowney still sitting out there with one of the Top Pass Rush Win Rates in the NFL and we have next to zero interest?

If I knew how to upload a jpeg I'd share the chart, Frank Clark with less than 5% Win Rate at the very bottom and Clowney just above 25% Win Rate alongside Aaron Donald, Myles Garret, and Robert Quinn with Micah Parson having the highest Win Rate at around 28%.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16205515)
J Clowney still sitting out there with one of the Top Pass Rush Win Rates in the NFL and we have next to zero interest?

If I knew how to upload a jpeg I'd share the chart, Frank Clark with less than 5% Win Rate at the very bottom and Clowney just above 25% Win Rate alongside Aaron Donald, Myles Garret, and Robert Quinn with Micah Parson having the highest Win Rate at around 28%.

If reports are to be believed, nobody has any interest in Clowney right now. Probably because he wants more than he's worth. This has happened with him multiple years now.

TambaBerry 03-22-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205513)
He drains life force every time he kisses a teenage boy.

teenage is being generous

bowener 03-22-2022 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16205511)
The wheels gotta come of Brady at sone point or he should be investigated for drugs. His ass has got to be on something. No player in any other sport would even be remotely considered clean at his age.

He and Gronk both look like their skin is made of plastic since they arrived in Tampa. The fact that Gronk healed during a season and stopped having to wear a brace tells me he is on HGH or some synthetic alternative. That shit will keep Brady playing until 50.

Red Dawg 03-22-2022 07:26 AM

Yup. Gronk has has many back surgeries and still be plays. Its bullshit. Him and Brady take drugs. They have to be

AdolfOliverBush 03-22-2022 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 16205532)
That shit will keep Brady playing until 50.

Not if a 330 pound DT breaks his ****ing back.

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16205491)
Well Fournette just got paid by the Bucs

$7 million per - right in the middle of what I thought he'd be lucky to get and what he's probably actually worth.

Amazes me that agents try this shit. In what world was $12 million ever something you bothered asking for?

htismaqe 03-22-2022 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205561)
$7 million per - right in the middle of what I thought he'd be lucky to get and what he's probably actually worth.

Amazes me that agents try this shit. In what world was $12 million ever something you bothered asking for?

Exactly.

Chris Meck 03-22-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16205480)
I'm liking the idea of a trade this am more and more...

1) The Draft: I've been high on D London, J Williams and D Wyatt, but it's likely all three will be gone by our pick, Williams is injured, and even if Wyatt was there he only had 5 sacks in 4 years so maybe we're getting a little overhyped on him. #30 seems like a tricky spot for a pass-rushing DE also, Ojabo is injured and Karlaftis is more of a run stopper, there are opportunities for Pass Rushers later in the draft. Starting to feel like we might go DB, but CB really hasn't been are thing early in the draft and we just picked up Reid.

2) We're in win-now mode and could us a dynamic player. Tyler Locket, DK Metcalf, Chris McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Kamara, a young impactful EDGE!?

I'm curious what's available out there, and if we can get a later pick back in the deal then even better.

We'll be in 'win now' mode for the next decade plus.

Things are different now, and we'll have to get used to that.

Dante84 03-22-2022 08:00 AM

Demarcus Robinson meeting with the Raiders

unothadeal 03-22-2022 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16205579)
Demarcus Robinson meeting with the Raiders

Excellent

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16205579)
Demarcus Robinson meeting with the Raiders

Buh bye.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 16205581)
Excellent

Bwahahahaha :evil:

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205513)
He drains life force every time he kisses a teenage boy.

It's a Portrait of Dorian Gray thing.

Every time Tom Brady gets hit, Peyton Manning gets the bruises.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205586)
It's a Portrait of Dorian Gray thing.

Every time Tom Brady gets hit, Peyton Manning gets the bruises.

Brady is a dementor. ROFL

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205589)
Brady is a dementor. ROFL

I believe that's a Harry Potter thing? My wife introduced the 7 yr old (now 8) to the books and she's just tearing through those things. She showed me a picture of these little fetus plant things that live in a flowerpot but if they shriek they make your head explode.

Jesus that stuff is straight nightmare fuel. But she'll want to talk about it and I'm just like "look, all I know about these books/movies is that Hans Gruber plays a bad guy and whatever it is he's doing, I'll be rooting for him..."

So she says I'm in his Wizarding House and I'll tell you, from what she tells me about that wizarding house, that's the one I'd want to be in anyway. Those guys sound awesome.

EDIT: Found it!

This is a kids story?

https://www.booktopia.com.au/blog/wp...ke-Small-1.jpg

That's a plant fetus. I will not be convinced otherwise.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205596)
I believe that's a Harry Potter thing? My wife introduced the 7 yr old (now 8) to the books and she's just tearing through those things. She showed me a picture of these little fetus plant things that live in a flowerpot but if they shriek they make your head explode.

Jesus that stuff is straight nightmare fuel. But she'll want to talk about it and I'm just like "look, all I know about these books/movies is that Hans Gruber plays a bad guy and whatever it is he's doing, I'll be rooting for him..."

So she says I'm in his Wizarding House and I'll tell you, from what she tells me about that wizarding house, that's the one I'd want to be in anyway. Those guys sound awesome.

EDIT: Found it!

This is a kids story?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ha...20210614143023

That's a plant fetus. I will not be convinced otherwise.

ROFL

I can't say I disagree with any of this. I have two daughters, both of whom were into HP for a bit, so I know just enough to know it wasn't actually intended for kids!

O.city 03-22-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205596)
I believe that's a Harry Potter thing? My wife introduced the 7 yr old (now 8) to the books and she's just tearing through those things. She showed me a picture of these little fetus plant things that live in a flowerpot but if they shriek they make your head explode.

Jesus that stuff is straight nightmare fuel. But she'll want to talk about it and I'm just like "look, all I know about these books/movies is that Hans Gruber plays a bad guy and whatever it is he's doing, I'll be rooting for him..."

So she says I'm in his Wizarding House and I'll tell you, from what she tells me about that wizarding house, that's the one I'd want to be in anyway. Those guys sound awesome.

EDIT: Found it!

This is a kids story?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ha...20210614143023

That's a plant fetus. I will not be convinced otherwise.

Severus Snape is one of the god damn heroes of Potter, you bite your tongue.

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205600)
ROFL

I can't say I disagree with any of this. I have two daughters, both of whom were into HP for a bit, so I know just enough to know it wasn't actually intended for kids!

"Go talk to your mother. If you want to discuss literally ANYTHING else at all, I'm a better resource but if you want to talk about Harry Potter, you're talking to the wrong parent..."

dlphg9 03-22-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16205287)
Do what the Bengals did and drop 8 and let Patrick sit back there while you can double cover almost every receiver bc Andy won’t run the ball

It's not like Patrick hadn't seen that shit all season long. He had gotten to a point of perfection and was tearing that shit up. They did it the 1st half too and he tore them up. It had nothing to do with a lack of rushes. It was because we had some bad drops to begin the half and it snowballed into Mahomes looking as bad as he's ever looked.

Get over us not running the ball a ton. It's never going to happen and we shouldn't go to a run heavy offense ever, especially with Mahomes.

O.city 03-22-2022 08:20 AM

You two should be ashamed of yourself.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16205608)
It's not like Patrick hadn't seen that shit all season long. He had gotten to a point of perfection and was tearing that shit up. They did it the 1st half too and he tore them up. It had nothing to do with a lack of rushes. It was because we had some bad drops to begin the half and it snowballed into Mahomes looking as bad as he's ever looked.

Get over us not running the ball a ton. It's never going to happen and we shouldn't go to a run heavy offense ever, especially with Mahomes.

Well said.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16205609)
You two should be ashamed of yourself.

Hey man, I raised two girls. No boys.

I know a lot of stuff I probably shouldn't and I'm all the better for it.

O.city 03-22-2022 08:22 AM

You shoudl never be run heavy. But that situation, you've just got to hand it off a couple times. They were gashing them with McKinnon. Just keep doing it.

O.city 03-22-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205611)
Hey man, I raised two girls. No boys.

I know a lot of stuff I probably shouldn't and I'm all the better for it.

I knew more Harry Potter before I ever had kids.

Maybe I'm the one who should be ashamed?

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16205608)
It's not like Patrick hadn't seen that shit all season long. He had gotten to a point of perfection and was tearing that shit up. They did it the 1st half too and he tore them up. It had nothing to do with a lack of rushes. It was because we had some bad drops to begin the half and it snowballed into Mahomes looking as bad as he's ever looked.

Get over us not running the ball a ton. It's never going to happen and we shouldn't go to a run heavy offense ever, especially with Mahomes.

This is why I didn't have a hard-on for JuJu.

"We need to figure out how to beat the cover 2!"

Guys - we figured out how to beat the cover 2. Mahomes was eviscerating it. Until he imploded in the 2nd half and no, SS wouldn't have done anything to prevent that. Nor would running the football.

Our quarterback, the guy who we built this entire roster around, shit the bed. And yeah, it happens sometimes.

What happened in that game doesn't mean anything as far as roster construction is concerned. It's simply a demonstration of what can go wrong in a win or go home playoff format.

But JuJu was cheap so whatever. If you think he can come in and produce - okay, he didn't cost much. Its worth a shot.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205627)
This is why I didn't have a hard-on for JuJu.

"We need to figure out how to beat the cover 2!"

Guys - we figured out how to beat the cover 2. Mahomes was eviscerating it. Until he imploded in the 2nd half and no, SS wouldn't have done anything to prevent that. Nor would running the football.

Our quarterback, the guy who we built this entire roster around, shit the bed. And yeah, it happens sometimes.

What happened in that game doesn't mean anything as far as roster construction is concerned. It's simply a demonstration of what can go wrong in a win or go home playoff format.

But JuJu was cheap so whatever. If you think he can come in and produce - okay, he didn't cost much. Its worth a shot.

Part of Pat shitting the bed, so to speak, was that he had guys like Hardman and Robinson open but just wouldn't press the ball to them. He obviously doesn't trust them, as evidenced by the ill-advised throw to Tyreek in OT.

It's entirely possible that all Juju does is give Pat more confidence. And at that price tag, a little peace of mind is WELL worth it.

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205631)
Part of Pat shitting the bed, so to speak, was that he had guys like Hardman and Robinson open but just wouldn't press the ball to them. He obviously doesn't trust them, as evidenced by the ill-advised throw to Tyreek in OT.

It's entirely possible that all Juju does is give Pat more confidence. And at that price tag, a little peace of mind is WELL worth it.

Sure.

But y'know what? Grow up, Pat.

Tom Brady threw to bags of microwaved dog shit with cleats for years. Sometimes you just have to figure out how to work with what you have.

The non-throw to Hardman was completely inexcusable. The Robinson one wasn't great either. And frankly, trust doesn't explain the fact that he had Kelce for the win and another conference championship. It was a throw he's made a dozen times.

Guy got mind-****ed. When he 'doesn't trust' Travis Kelce - then it ain't Travis Kelce he doesn't trust.

When you wake up in the morning and the first person you see is an asshole, that guy was probably an asshole. When you wake up in the morning and the first FIVE people you see are assholes, then YOU'RE probably the asshole.

Patrick Mahomes was the asshole in that game. It wasn't that he didn't trust Hardman or Robinson because lord knows he'd never lose trust in Kelce.

Kid didn't trust himself anymore. And it's hard to put a finger on why. You just figure that it's happened to everyone in this game and you move along.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205637)
Sure.

But y'know what? Grow up, Pat.

Tom Brady threw to bags of microwaved dog shit with cleats for years. Sometimes you just have to figure out how to work with what you have.

The non-throw to Hardman was completely inexcusable. The Robinson one wasn't great either. And frankly, trust doesn't explain the fact that he had Kelce for the win and another conference championship. It was a throw he's made a dozen times.

Guy got mind-****ed. When he 'doesn't trust' Travis Kelce - then it ain't Travis Kelce he doesn't trust.

When you wake up in the morning and the first person you see is an asshole, that guy was probably an asshole. When you wake up in the morning and the first FIVE people you see are assholes, then YOU'RE probably the asshole.

Patrick Mahomes was the asshole in that game. It wasn't that he didn't trust Hardman or Robinson because lord knows he'd never lose trust in Kelce.

Kid didn't trust himself anymore. And it's hard to put a finger on why. You just figure that it's happened to everyone in this game and you move along.

I don't necessarily disagree.

RunKC 03-22-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16205608)
It's not like Patrick hadn't seen that shit all season long. He had gotten to a point of perfection and was tearing that shit up. They did it the 1st half too and he tore them up. It had nothing to do with a lack of rushes. It was because we had some bad drops to begin the half and it snowballed into Mahomes looking as bad as he's ever looked.

Get over us not running the ball a ton. It's never going to happen and we shouldn't go to a run heavy offense ever, especially with Mahomes.

Nobody is saying to go to a run heavy offense.

threebag 03-22-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16205198)
Lol

Geno Smith snd Drew Lock competing to be the starter?

A GoChiefs spankathon

Mile High Mania 03-22-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 16205654)
A GoChiefs spankathon

I think Lock has a bit of a douche factor, but I do hope things can turn around for him... if he ends up doing well in SEA, that's cool with me. I just don't know if he's wired to be a leader at this level though.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205637)
Sure.

But y'know what? Grow up, Pat.

Tom Brady threw to bags of microwaved dog shit with cleats for years. Sometimes you just have to figure out how to work with what you have.

The non-throw to Hardman was completely inexcusable. The Robinson one wasn't great either. And frankly, trust doesn't explain the fact that he had Kelce for the win and another conference championship. It was a throw he's made a dozen times.

Guy got mind-****ed. When he 'doesn't trust' Travis Kelce - then it ain't Travis Kelce he doesn't trust.

When you wake up in the morning and the first person you see is an asshole, that guy was probably an asshole. When you wake up in the morning and the first FIVE people you see are assholes, then YOU'RE probably the asshole.

Patrick Mahomes was the asshole in that game. It wasn't that he didn't trust Hardman or Robinson because lord knows he'd never lose trust in Kelce.

Kid didn't trust himself anymore. And it's hard to put a finger on why. You just figure that it's happened to everyone in this game and you move along.

I really think it was just compounding bullshit starting with the end of that first half.

They didn’t come away with any points and that was a negative going into half. Then they came out and the drops started. The Bengals started coming back and the whole team thought “here we go again”. Pat probably got that losing streak in the beginning of the season stuck in his head and it just got worse from there.

I still put the loss at 80% Pat and 20% coaching staff. I know that for his short career that Reid has always said that he’ll let Pat pass himself out of a funk but at some point you have to pull him aside and adjust.

And I don’t think that’s the Pat we get moving forward. But everyone should be aware that the dude isn’t a literal God. He’s going to have bad games. And that wasn’t the first one of his career. He looked like shit against the Titans and he had some other halves that were almost as bad.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16205670)
I really think it was just compounding bullshit starting with the end of that first half.

They didn’t come away with any points and that was a negative going into half. Then they came out and the drops started. The Bengals started coming back and the whole team thought “here we go again”. Pat probably got that losing streak in the beginning of the season stuck in his head and it just got worse from there.

I still put the loss at 80% Pat and 20% coaching staff. I know that for his short career that Reid has always said that he’ll let Pat pass himself out of a funk but at some point you have to pull him aside and adjust.

And I don’t think that’s the Pat we get moving forward. But everyone should be aware that the dude isn’t a literal God. He’s going to have bad games. And that wasn’t the first one of his career. He looked like shit against the Titans and he had some other halves that were almost as bad.

Good post.

DJ's left nut 03-22-2022 08:53 AM

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I really think it was just compounding bullshit starting with the end of that first half.

They didn’t come away with any points and that was a negative going into half. Then they came out and the drops started. The Bengals started coming back and the whole team thought “here we go again”. Pat probably got that losing streak in the beginning of the season stuck in his head and it just got worse from there.

I still put the loss at 80% Pat and 20% coaching staff. I know that for his short career that Reid has always said that he’ll let Pat pass himself out of a funk but at some point you have to pull him aside and adjust.

And I don’t think that’s the Pat we get moving forward. But everyone should be aware that the dude isn’t a literal God. He’s going to have bad games. And that wasn’t the first one of his career. He looked like shit against the Titans and he had some other halves that were almost as bad.

I wouldn't go quite that far.

Patrick is a literal God.

But even Gods have their off days. Remember that whole 'Eve' thing?

Women and the 2nd half against the Bengals are what happen when Gods get in a funk.

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2022 08:54 AM

LMAO Holy Shit, you guys are old.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16205676)
I wouldn't go quite that far.

Patrick is a literal God.

But even Gods have their off days. Remember that whole 'Eve' thing?

Women and the 2nd half against the Bengals are what happen when Gods get in a funk.

He’s about as close as a QB is going to get but the fact still remains. Gods can bleed.

And no one wants to give any credit to the Bengals defense. I said during the season that the Bengals were a lot like the 2018 Chiefs but they ended up being more like the 2019 Chiefs. That defense stepped up in the playoffs and it almost got them a championship. They played their asses off.

Dante84 03-22-2022 08:56 AM

Yeah, a pretty brutal half at the worst time, after a generally frustrating year.

And I'll excuse 1 bad half for 4 years of some of the greatest QB play of all time, ever. He'll bounce back, it's whatever.

Shit, I mean we all thought Brady was done-done after he threw a terrible pick-six in a terrible game in the playoffs to end his New England career. One game is pretty small in the grand scheme.

O.city 03-22-2022 09:01 AM

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Sure.

But y'know what? Grow up, Pat.

Tom Brady threw to bags of microwaved dog shit with cleats for years. Sometimes you just have to figure out how to work with what you have.

The non-throw to Hardman was completely inexcusable. The Robinson one wasn't great either. And frankly, trust doesn't explain the fact that he had Kelce for the win and another conference championship. It was a throw he's made a dozen times.

Guy got mind-****ed. When he 'doesn't trust' Travis Kelce - then it ain't Travis Kelce he doesn't trust.

When you wake up in the morning and the first person you see is an asshole, that guy was probably an asshole. When you wake up in the morning and the first FIVE people you see are assholes, then YOU'RE probably the asshole.

Patrick Mahomes was the asshole in that game. It wasn't that he didn't trust Hardman or Robinson because lord knows he'd never lose trust in Kelce.

Kid didn't trust himself anymore. And it's hard to put a finger on why. You just figure that it's happened to everyone in this game and you move along.

The Bengals were mixing and matching defenses well, sure.

But the guy just vapor locked. It was wild.

I think it stems from the "run around and make plays" mentality. Stand in the pocket and throw the ball.

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2022 09:02 AM

And yes, Alan Rickman ends up playing the best character in the whole series by the end.

RunKC 03-22-2022 09:02 AM

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These guys really are looking for ratings to spike huh? ROFL

The Franchise 03-22-2022 09:03 AM

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These guys really are looking for ratings to spike huh? ROFL

Unfortunate that Bart Scott has CTE.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 09:07 AM

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The Bengals were mixing and matching defenses well, sure.

But the guy just vapor locked. It was wild.

I think it stems from the "run around and make plays" mentality. Stand in the pocket and throw the ball.

It usually happens when he thinks that he has to go hero ball to win the game. He’s still learning to take what defenses give him. He can do it but he still has moments where his mind tells him that everything is riding on him and he has to win the game.

In58men 03-22-2022 09:08 AM

The #Chiefs have signed CB Luq Barcoo, according to his agency, @SynergySportInt.

Barcoo played three games in 2020 for the #Jaguars, and spent time on the #49ers & #Cardinals practice squads last season. #ChiefsKingdom

The Franchise 03-22-2022 09:10 AM

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The #Chiefs have signed CB Luq Barcoo, according to his agency, @SynergySportInt.

Barcoo played three games in 2020 for the #Jaguars, and spent time on the #49ers & #Cardinals practice squads last season. #ChiefsKingdom

I saw that shit and thought there was no way that was a real dude. LMAO

htismaqe 03-22-2022 09:11 AM

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I saw that shit and thought there was no way that was a real dude. LMAO

We did just sign a guy named Juju so...

KCUnited 03-22-2022 09:12 AM

Pounded the table for Luq Barcoo coming out of Hogwarts!

htismaqe 03-22-2022 09:12 AM

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Pounded the table for Luq Barcoo coming out of Hogwarts!

:LOL:

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Mile High Mania 03-22-2022 09:30 AM

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Maybe he time travels and knows that PM gets hurt? That's crazy talk to leave them out of the picture.

dlphg9 03-22-2022 09:31 AM

Bart Scott is a ****ing reerun and has always been one. They need to stop giving any dumb ass that used to play air time. Get guys that aren't divas and know what they are talking about.

Kiimo 03-22-2022 09:39 AM

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Bart Scott is a ****ing reerun and has always been one. They need to stop giving any dumb ass that used to play air time. Get guys that aren't divas and know what they are talking about.



I bet you'd give airtime to Randolph Scott



In58men 03-22-2022 09:41 AM

Comeback? The #Chiefs are signing former #Giants WR Corey Coleman, source said. Just 27, Coleman is back in the NFL after a year out.

The Franchise 03-22-2022 09:43 AM

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Comeback? The #Chiefs are signing former #Giants WR Corey Coleman, source said. Just 27, Coleman is back in the NFL after a year out.

He and Gordon won’t make it out of camp.


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