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Jewish Rabbi 03-20-2025 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 18005440)
He was a deer in headlights from the beginning.

Gates is to coaching what dlphag is to posting

ChiefsCountry 03-20-2025 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 18000542)
Mizzou is ****ed. A well disciplined and coached team in the first round with a roster of Missouri players with a chip on their shoulder. McCollum will clown Gates in X and Os.

Welp, that came true. Gates is just a bad coach, heck of a recruiter but can't coach.

siberian khatru 03-21-2025 11:29 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Factoring in seeding and upsets, I think Mizzou is the most cursed NCAA tourney team of all time. 29 trips to the NCAA tourney with no final fours. (Only BYU and Xavier have more trips without a final four run. Tennessee is fourth on list.)</p>&mdash; Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1902922674562544091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 03-21-2025 12:00 PM

They arent cursed the athletic program has been dog shit

Pepe Silvia 03-21-2025 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 18005987)
They arent cursed the athletic program has been dog shit

Yes they are. The 5th down and Nebraska kicked ball prove it.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2025 01:45 PM

I'll just say that TO Barrett had better end up a damn good player.

Because Gates commitment to getting him into games really hurt us often this year. It just completely killed the offense anytime he was on the court pretty much all season.

I don't understand how he kept getting critical minutes this year and seemingly every time he did, we lost.

I can think of 3 times that Gates went to him either early or in crunch time and in all 3 of them (Texas, Tennessee and Drake) he messed up the offensive flow and we ended up losing momentum and eventually the ballgame.

blake5676 03-21-2025 01:58 PM

With the length advantage we had, I was frustrated we didn't take advantage of it more. Like most of the season, I felt like out half court offense left A LOT to be desired. Thought we played relatively good D yesterday, but we just got nothing out of Robinson and Perkins played terrible. Took forever to get Mitchell going and Grill was cold.

A lot of the blame has to go on Gates for lineups, adjustments and overall gameplan but our scorers weren't scoring so it is what it is. Another irritating early exit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-21-2025 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18006146)
I'll just say that TO Barrett had better end up a damn good player.

Because Gates commitment to getting him into games really hurt us often this year. It just completely killed the offense anytime he was on the court pretty much all season.

I don't understand how he kept getting critical minutes this year and seemingly every time he did, we lost.

I can think of 3 times that Gates went to him either early or in crunch time and in all 3 of them (Texas, Tennessee and Drake) he messed up the offensive flow and we ended up losing momentum and eventually the ballgame.

There is no evidence this happened in the game logs yesterday. The first time he was on the court for more than one possession didn't happen until 13 minutes left in the game when Mizzou was scoring a point per minute. His two runs of time in the second half corresponded with no decrease in productivity on offense and his plus/minus was flat.

dlphg9 03-21-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 18005444)
Gates is to coaching what dlphag is to posting

You're such a funny little femboi.

Mosbonian 03-21-2025 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 18006211)
There is no evidence this happened in the game logs yesterday. The first time he was on the court for more than one possession didn't happen until 13 minutes left in the game when Mizzou was scoring a point per minute. His two runs of time in the second half corresponded with no decrease in productivity on offense and his plus/minus was flat.

Barrett threw up a crappy shot towards the end of the game that was totally ill advised...it was right after Mitchell missed the free throw that would have tied the game....at the same time Drake was struggling.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-21-2025 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 18006235)
Barrett threw up a crappy shot towards the end of the game that was totally ill advised...it was right after Mitchell missed the free throw that would have tied the game....at the same time Drake was struggling.

That is true and I said as much during the game, but that's one shot compared to how many ill-advised ones put up by Warrick, Grill, or Robinson?

dlphg9 03-21-2025 03:28 PM

Missouri was predicted to finish 13th in the SEC and Dennis Gates led them to a NCAA tournament berth. They finished 7th in what could be the best basketball conference ever. They have several huge wins at home and on the road. They just happened to go ice cold.

There 2 point shot percent was 37.9%. That was by far the worst they've shot all year from inside the 3 point line all season. The 2nd worst percent was 42.3%.

Blaming Gates and his coaching for the loss is just ****ing dumb. The players flat out lost this game and nothing Gates did could have changed that.

Caleb Grill continued his atrocious 3 point shooting that started in March and shot 1-7 from 3 last night. He was 13/50 from 3 in March.

Anthony Robinson completely shit the bed on offense and went 0-5 from the field, which would have been fine if he could have played defense like he had been all year, but his ****ing guy was killing us.

Mark Mitchell had a ton of opportunities to score, but couldn't make shit outside of his FTs. He shot 2-8 from the field.

The ****ing bench was also a steaming pile of shit and the 5 of them went 4/12 from the field and scored 14 points.

The players lost this game by shooting worst than they have all year long.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2025 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 18006211)
There is no evidence this happened in the game logs yesterday. The first time he was on the court for more than one possession didn't happen until 13 minutes left in the game when Mizzou was scoring a point per minute. His two runs of time in the second half corresponded with no decrease in productivity on offense and his plus/minus was flat.

He came in after Bates drew his 4th foul and we were making a run. When he did, the offense bogged down. We managed to get to the line a couple times still but the offense was clearly not as crisp. Then he fired up a miss and shortly thereafter came back out.

I don't think they made a single FG during that period after they'd finally started with solid ball movement to get the game back within reach in the 5 minutes or so before that.

He wasn't THE problem -- I mean Robinson and Mitchell absolutely pooping on their shoes were most responsible for that. Grill was shortly behind those 2 but at least managed to protect the ball. Then Bates missing a couple bunnies when he got back in the game fully and finally killed it.

But I felt like the momentum swung back towards Drake when Bates came off the floor. It just seemed ot me like you had to ride it out with him at that point of the game. He's an experienced player - Gates should've trusted him to play smart and stay in the game rather than sit him down and interrupt the gameflow for both the offense writ large and for him specifically.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-21-2025 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18006289)
He came in after Bates drew his 4th foul and we were making a run. When he did, the offense bogged down. We managed to get to the line a couple times still but the offense was clearly not as crisp. Then he fired up a miss and shortly thereafter came back out.

I don't think they made a single FG during that period after they'd finally started with solid ball movement to get the game back within reach in the 5 minutes or so before that.

He wasn't THE problem -- I mean Robinson and Mitchell absolutely pooping on their shoes were most responsible for that. Grill was shortly behind those 2 but at least managed to protect the ball. Then Bates missing a couple bunnies when he got back in the game fully and finally killed it.

But I felt like the momentum swung back towards Drake when Bates came off the floor. It just seemed ot me like you had to ride it out with him at that point of the game. He's an experienced player - Gates should've trusted him to play smart and stay in the game rather than sit him down and interrupt the gameflow for both the offense writ large and for him specifically.

Bates left with 6:10 left and Mizzou down four. When he was off the floor, they cut it to one before Drake scored two straight buckets after Mitchell broke the FT steak.

I agree that he shouldn't have been taken out. I also don't understand why Perkins was pulled from the game with 13 minutes left, never to return. It's like Gates put the entire onus of the deficit on him, which I don't get given that he scored 7 points in 14 minutes. That is Jordan level output compared to what the leaders of the team provided.

Mosbonian 03-21-2025 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 18006256)
That is true and I said as much during the game, but that's one shot compared to how many ill-advised ones put up by Warrick, Grill, or Robinson?

Oh I agree....I didn't get some of the drives under the basket by the team toward the end.of the game (last 5 minutes).

The lane was packed by Drake and no shot going up was going to be uncontested.

Grill pretty much tailed off in his shooting the last few games....Warrick and Robinson both looked lost at times....


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