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teedubya 10-11-2024 08:53 AM

Since the New York Yankees' last World Series win in 2009, their collective payrolls and accumulated totals have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2010: $215.1 million
2011: $196.9 million
2012: $229.7 million
2013: $228.0 million
2014: $203.1 million
2015: $199.9 million
2016: $200.0 million
2017: $198.7 million
2018: $164.4 million
2019: $203.9 million
2020: $243.8 million
2021: $211.5 million
2022: $259.5 million
2023: $292.0 million
2024: $325.0 million

The accumulated payroll for the New York Yankees since their last World Series win in 2009 is $3,371.5 billion.

teedubya 10-11-2024 08:55 AM

Since the Kansas City Royals' last World Series win in 2015, their payroll salaries have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2016: $128,892,314
2017: $152,148,299
2018: $114,779,170
2019: $105,816,031
2020: $105,316,895
2021: $157,407,477
2022: $97,303,989
2023: $119,930,000
2024: $120,351,954

The accumulated payroll for the Kansas City Royals since their last World Series win in 2015 is approximately $1,101,945,129.

Nearly precisely 3x the Yankees. Nice DJJasonp

Fansy the Famous Bard 10-11-2024 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17740444)
Was the wind really blowing in that hard? I have been out a lot today and didn't really notice the wind being too strong. Do I trust Costas and if so we missed two homers tonight?

They ran on Salvy he must have been worn down. I think I'd played Freddy at the plate and DH'ed Sal or put him at 1st. Vinny I believe was rushed back.

Really need a little more pop in the lineup. MJ needs to be replaced in LF and Isbel is good glove but just not much offense. Old man Pham was pretty good but really not a guy you bring back.

Q as a manager I appreciate the job he did but damn pull these guys that cant find the plate. To keep pitching to Stanton lost this series for you. There were plenty of opportunities to pitch around him. Hope he learns from this.

No, the wind was very light.

UteChief 10-11-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17740710)
Since the Kansas City Royals' last World Series win in 2015, their payroll salaries have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2016: $128,892,314
2017: $152,148,299
2018: $114,779,170
2019: $105,816,031
2020: $105,316,895
2021: $157,407,477
2022: $97,303,989
2023: $119,930,000
2024: $120,351,954

The accumulated payroll for the Kansas City Royals since their last World Series win in 2015 is approximately $1,101,945,129.

Nearly precisely 3x the Yankees. Nice DJJasonp

Now compile revenue and compare payroll as a percentage.

UteChief 10-11-2024 09:30 AM

This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg

wazu 10-11-2024 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17740770)
This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">how much money each MLB team made last year, and how much of that is going towards their payroll this year <a href="https://t.co/yCeoc2fGP5">pic.twitter.com/yCeoc2fGP5</a></p>&mdash; BrooksGate (@Brooks_Gate) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brooks_Gate/status/1813226032066884039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

InvinciBill 10-11-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17740770)
This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg

This one is interesting too.

GeorgeZimZam 10-11-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17740770)
This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark" data-cards="hidden"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Postseason?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Postseason</a><br>Umpire: Mark Carlson<br>Final: Yankees 3, Royals 1<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RepBX?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RepBX</a> // <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WelcomeToTheCity?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WelcomeToTheCity</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NYYvsKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NYYvsKC</a> // <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCvsNYY?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KCvsNYY</a><br><br>More stats for this game 👇<a href="https://t.co/4MwyYMObyx">https://t.co/4MwyYMObyx</a> <a href="https://t.co/KEW3yX08zE">pic.twitter.com/KEW3yX08zE</a></p>&mdash; Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) <a href="https://twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1844747653189447766?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2024</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZncNrjW...name=4096x4096

DJ's left nut 10-11-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17740770)
This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg

Probably is that it uses luxury tax payrolls.

Which is akin to using a team's Salary Cap figure as a proxy for Cash Spending.

And for many (if not most) ballclubs, those aren't even reasonable proxies because a luxury tax payroll uses AAV whereas the actual payroll spent is cash spending.

Look at the Cardinals, for example. That infographic says they had a $212 million payroll. They weren't even CLOSE.

They were, on the high side of the range, around $180 million in payroll spending this year. On the lower side, you'll see figures at around $150 million when accounting for things like retained payments from other clubs.

I suspect the $180 million is the more accurate figure, but even using that figure, the figure they use is inflated by almost 20%.

The difference comes from backloaded deals and deferrals. A team like the Dodgers has a staggering $46 million 'tax payroll' for Ohtani but only paid him $2 million this year.

The Royals have an ever bigger gap because they get drilled for Witt's full AAV on their tax bill but only paid him $2.7 million this year. His luxury tax percentage, OTOH, was $26.2 million. So they get 'credit' for $24 million in spending they didn't actually do. So their 'luxury tax total' was a little over $160 million. Their adjusted payroll total was about $122 million. Then their cash total (because of signing bonuses) was about in the middle of that.

I'd probably say your best bet is to try to find your cash spending totals for most of these teams. That's gonna give you the best guess about the 'commitment level' each team has.

suzzer99 10-11-2024 11:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Witt Jr. was alone watching the Yankees celebrate so Giancarlo Stanton went over to show him respect<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SamMcDowell11</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/marioagomez_1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@marioagomez_1</a>) <a href="https://t.co/2xLwct1mP3">pic.twitter.com/2xLwct1mP3</a></p>&mdash; Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1844773983620608420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sort of like Brady going to the locker room to talk to Mahomes. Hopefully this has a similar outcome next year!

PHOG 10-11-2024 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17740942)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Witt Jr. was alone watching the Yankees celebrate so Giancarlo Stanton went over to show him respect<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SamMcDowell11</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/marioagomez_1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@marioagomez_1</a>) <a href="https://t.co/2xLwct1mP3">pic.twitter.com/2xLwct1mP3</a></p>&mdash; Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1844773983620608420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sort of like Brady going to the locker room to talk to Mahomes. Hopefully this has a similar outcome next year!

They said on the broadcast last night what a good guy he is, this exemplifies that.

thebrad84 10-11-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17740942)
Sort of like Brady going to the locker room to talk to Mahomes. Hopefully this has a similar outcome next year!

Except Mahomes actually played like a star in the AFCCG game and fell just short, whereas Witt had an awful ALDS and didn't fall just short.

TomBarndtsTwin 10-11-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17740710)
Since the Kansas City Royals' last World Series win in 2015, their payroll salaries have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2016: $128,892,314
2017: $152,148,299
2018: $114,779,170
2019: $105,816,031
2020: $105,316,895
2021: $157,407,477
2022: $97,303,989
2023: $119,930,000
2024: $120,351,954

The accumulated payroll for the Kansas City Royals since their last World Series win in 2015 is approximately $1,101,945,129.

Nearly precisely 3x the Yankees. Nice DJJasonp

So a third of the money the Yanks spent in that time period and 3x the success (2 pennants and a trophy). 3 things the Yankers haven't seen since 2009.

smithandrew051 10-11-2024 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InvinciBill (Post 17740866)
This one is interesting too.

Do you guys know how awkward it is to spit your drink out laughing at something on your phone in front of your wife and then have to explain what is so funny?

Happened with this post. Really hard to explain without seeming like I belong in an institution.

wazu 10-11-2024 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17741087)
Do you guys know how awkward it is to spit your drink out laughing at something on your phone in front of your wife and then have to explain what is so funny?

Happened with this post. Really hard to explain without seeming like I belong in an institution.

At this point when that happens my wife just looks at me and says “Let me guess, Chiefsplanet?”


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