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ChiefGator 09-16-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17687276)
I just didn't understand why we didn't chip more. McKinnon used to chip all the time. Pacheco couldn't? They even showed a replay yesterday where he somehow missed chipping Hendrickson. Perine is a great blocking RB, I don't get why he wasn't used to help more yesterday.

Seemed like our RBs slowed down and looked for the chip but missed it consistently.

RunKC 09-17-2024 11:00 AM

According to ESPN edge/rush win rate, Hendrickson was doubled 30% of the snaps.

Rain Man 09-17-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17689783)
According to ESPN edge/rush win rate, Hendrickson was doubled 30% of the snaps.

Boy, that's not what I was seeing at all. Does anyone else's eyes confirm this?

Maybe they only showed camera shots when Hendrickson beat him, which would be more likely to be a 1v1, and the double-teams won. If so, we can learn something from that.

I'm going on record here to say that I have no panic. Kingsley is facing live fire for the first time and he's going to learn and get better every game.

smithandrew051 09-17-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17689798)
Boy, that's not what I was seeing at all. Does anyone else's eyes confirm this?

Maybe they only showed camera shots when Hendrickson beat him, which would be more likely to be a 1v1, and the double-teams won. If so, we can learn something from that.

I'm going on record here to say that I have no panic. Kingsley is facing live fire for the first time and he's going to learn and get better every game.

Reid/Veach will tell us if we need to panic.

What they do from here will tell the story.

FloridaMan88 09-17-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17687451)
Oh lord.

Do we play Cleveland this year?

Oof. Yeah, gonna need a play for Garrett because that's gonna be terrifying.

Yep and TJ Watt as well… at least those games are later in the season to hopefully allow more time for Kingsley to develop.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2024 11:12 AM

That's ****ing insanity. Most OTs are left on an island from 50% to 65% of the time. A couple of outliers in both directions. At least that's what PFF says.

O.city 09-17-2024 11:13 AM

The Chiefs don't chip the edges nearly as much as other teams. Both the Schwartz brothers and Chase Daniel have talked about it.

Buehler445 09-17-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17689810)
Yep and TJ Watt as well… at least those games are later in the season to hopefully allow more time for Kingsley to develop.

Or to get hurt. Seems like a bunch of major players are ending up hurt.

And Watt is a Watt of course.

RunKC 09-17-2024 11:31 AM

Anyone else think there appeared to be miscommunication on the first sack? Looks like Kingley gave up the outside bc he thought Pacheco was chipping but Pacheco did not chip.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are both of Trey Hendrickson’s sacks going up against Kingsley Suamataia yesterday. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/jgK7bEv8yF">pic.twitter.com/jgK7bEv8yF</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1835742035829014715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 09-17-2024 12:06 PM

The first one.....Pat needs to step up?

treeguy27 09-17-2024 12:25 PM

It would be nice to see Kingsley go help Mahomes up instead of just walking away after letting him get hit.

MIAdragon 09-17-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by treeguy27 (Post 17689959)
It would be nice to see Kingsley go help Mahomes up instead of just walking away after letting him get hit.

Saw that a few times.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17689865)
Anyone else think there appeared to be miscommunication on the first sack? Looks like Kingley gave up the outside bc he thought Pacheco was chipping but Pacheco did not chip.

Not really.

Looks like he just got bullied. Hendrickson didn't do anything cute - just essentially went through him.

We figured that Kingsley would struggle with power. We saw some reps in camp of Danna doing that stuff to him. And Trey is a LOT better than Danna.

Honestly, that's a play that just can't happen because there really IS no way to protect against it. If anyone with above average power can just go through your LT, that's untenable.

DJ's left nut 09-17-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17689937)
The first one.....Pat needs to step up?

Wouldn't have done a lot, IMO.

Hendrickson was in complete control of the rep. Had Pat tried to step up, Hendrickson would've picked Kingsley up like a club and used him to sack Mahomes.

You really can't get your ass beat any worse than that. He gave Mahomes no chance.

crispystl 09-17-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17687451)
Oh lord.

Do we play Cleveland this year?

Oof. Yeah, gonna need a play for Garrett because that's gonna be terrifying.

When I saw that I was like "Oh ****" we're going to have to play every down with 6 offensive lineman LMAO


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