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ToxSocks 10-27-2022 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16558498)

So yeah while the talent is worth taking the chance on, you can't just ignore everything that surrounds it.
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ForeverIowan 10-27-2022 05:00 PM
If this dude makes one single huge play during a playoff run this year that leads to a Super Bowl the 3rd rounder given up is worth it. Anything more during the rest of his rookie contract is gravy. Pure gravy. Not crazy to think the upside of this trade with a player with his ability could become elite playing with Reid/Mahomes.

-King- 10-27-2022 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16558513)
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I'm the captain of ignoring what stupid shit a player does as long as he's productive and isn't causing a rift in the locker room.

Like I said, it's all up to him now. He has the talent and the environment to be a great WR. What he does with that is on him.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:06 PM
At the very least he should be an immediate boon just by getting Skyy off punt return duty, and if that doesn't happen and Toney is capable and healthy Toub needs to get the **** out.

DenverChief 10-27-2022 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16558342)
What is an AK 15?
The long lost cousin of the AR 47

Megatron96 10-27-2022 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558529)
At the very least he should be an immediate boon just by getting Skyy off punt return duty, and if that doesn't happen and Toney is capable and healthy Toub needs to get the **** out.
ROFL
Dave Toub has been the best ST over the last 13 years or more, there's no reason or chance Toub goes anywhere unless he wants to go.

BWillie 10-27-2022 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558449)
What? No it isn't. Both of those guys were incredibly passionate about football. Complete assholes in their own respective ways, yes, but still incredibly passionate.
I never took Vick as an asshole. He just liked to fight dogs so he had some questionable morals. He wasn't a complete shit teammate just not a great one.

T-post Tom 10-27-2022 05:18 PM
I’ve been told that the current Giants’ front office did not draft him. Even with that, getting a low 3 & 6 for an overall #20 with that kind of talent must be a huge bite in the ass for the Giants’ organization. Throw in the rookie contract and this trade has the potential of being pretty awesome.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16558540)
ROFL
Dave Toub has been the best ST over the last 13 years or more, there's no reason or chance Toub goes anywhere unless he wants to go.
LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Based on what, exactly? Because we've had some spectacular gaffes with our special teams in recent years.

Remember the gap between the long snapper and right guard that would constantly get exploited for blocked punts? Pepperidge Farm remembers, especially since it happened in the playoffs, TWICE.

Remember the constant flags on our return units for stupid ass shit like blocks in the back and holds? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember the fact that we constantly have to keep one or two roster spots open exclusively for special teams JAGs that contribute literally nothing else at a to the team? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember constantly trotting out Skyy Moore to field punts even though he's shown some incredibly poor habits dating back to preseason that ultimately led to us actually losing a game? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Sassy Squatch 10-27-2022 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16558543)
I never took Vick as an asshole. He just liked to fight dogs so he had some questionable morals. He wasn't a complete shit teammate just not a great one.
Uhh, yeah, that whole dogfighting bit kind of makes him an asshole.

Coochie liquor 10-27-2022 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16557701)
The thing about Hughes is that he's dirt ****ing cheap, in terms of both cap hit and likely trade compensation. It's something they could do without really batting an eye, whereas most of the other options out there right now would require considerable outlay in both draft picks and salary.
I mean…. Except for Suh who would cost zero picks. And a pro rated salary for this season.

staylor26 10-27-2022 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16557654)
The Chiefs have been playing the long game going back to the offseason.

This move is another that fills the bill.

I wouldn't say that it has absolutely nothing to do with this season, but it's definitely a long term move for the most part.

Toney isn't even healthy right now.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IMO, here&#39;s how Chiefs fans should consider this move: The trade is mostly for 2023 &amp; 2024.<br><br>Kadarius Toney can still have a role this season, but his best production, if he stays healthy, could come after an offseason &amp; camp to be fully functional within the offensive scheme.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1585682661837766675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

raybec 4 10-27-2022 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558554)
LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Based on what, exactly? Because we've had some spectacular gaffes with our special teams in recent years.

Remember the gap between the long snapper and right guard that would constantly get exploited for blocked punts? Pepperidge Farm remembers, especially since it happened in the playoffs, TWICE.

Remember the constant flags on our return units for stupid ass shit like blocks in the back and holds? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember the fact that we constantly have to keep one or two roster spots open exclusively for special teams JAGs that contribute literally nothing else at a to the team? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember constantly trotting out Skyy Moore to field punts even though he's shown some incredibly poor habits dating back to preseason that ultimately led to us actually losing a game? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I believe almost all teams do this. guys who play specials well are very important.

BWillie 10-27-2022 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558558)
Uhh, yeah, that whole dogfighting bit kind of makes him an asshole.
Being an asshole or not is how you treat other people.

htismaqe 10-27-2022 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16558554)
LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO Based on what, exactly? Because we've had some spectacular gaffes with our special teams in recent years.

Remember the gap between the long snapper and right guard that would constantly get exploited for blocked punts? Pepperidge Farm remembers, especially since it happened in the playoffs, TWICE.

Remember the constant flags on our return units for stupid ass shit like blocks in the back and holds? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember the fact that we constantly have to keep one or two roster spots open exclusively for special teams JAGs that contribute literally nothing else at a to the team? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember constantly trotting out Skyy Moore to field punts even though he's shown some incredibly poor habits dating back to preseason that ultimately led to us actually losing a game? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Not that I necessarily agree with it but Toub is consistently among the highest rated ST coaches in the league by most of the advanced metrics. I will see if I can find the article.

And again im not saying I agree but Megatron didn’t just pull it out of his ass.


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