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nychief 07-10-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9802859)
According to BP this morning, Zimmer worked primarily with the fastball and curveball last night.

His attempts to develop a slider so far this year have not gone well. He still needs at least a "Show-me" changeup to reach his upside, but Shelby Miller's success in St. Louis this year shows a guy can pitch at a high level with a plus fastball and plus curve, and a rarely used/average change.

read this same post on royals curve...why do you say that his attempts to develop a slider have not gone well? Curious. Keith Law said he is has 3 plus pitches.

duncan_idaho 07-10-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9803013)
read this same post on royals curve...why do you say that his attempts to develop a slider have not gone well? Curious. Keith Law said he is has 3 plus pitches.

If Law said that, the changeup must be the third-pitch he's referring to, or he caught him on a good night with the slider.

BP referenced it as "his worst pitch" according to many scouts, and cited overuse of that pitch as a potential reason for his struggles this year.

gblowfish 07-10-2013 12:47 PM

CBS Sports talking about Santana's future with the Royals:
http://tinyurl.com/l9h73ad

mr. tegu 07-10-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9803278)
CBS Sports talking about Santana's future with the Royals:
http://tinyurl.com/l9h73ad

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the Royals own baseball's best record over the last 36 days, at 20-12 -- is proof that this team can contend.
From the link. That is pretty sweet!

Demonpenz 07-10-2013 12:56 PM

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Mr. Laz 07-10-2013 01:11 PM

It will be awesome if Lough continues to develop


now if we can just find a 2nd baseman

Tytanium 07-10-2013 03:32 PM

Let's assume, for a moment, the Royals make a September run at the playoffs. Do we call up Ventura or not?

CaliforniaChief 07-10-2013 03:43 PM

We're in the toughest part of our schedule right now. After our homestand with Detroit and the Jim Johnson's, the schedule eases considerably.

3 at White Sox, 3 at Twins, 3 at Mets, and 3 at home vs. Twins.

After 4 at home against Boston, it's the Marlins at home for 3. Later in August, we see the Twins and White Sox 3 more times each, at home.

Oh yeah, and with that rainout we have a 5 game series at home against the Tigers.

CaliforniaChief 07-10-2013 03:44 PM

So to follow that, we're all in. We didn't just trade away the #1 prospect in all of baseball to dick around and be mediocre. My expectation, based on that move and the Royals' willingness to hold guys accountable, is that we're going to swing big at the deadline.

duncan_idaho 07-10-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tytanium (Post 9803630)
Let's assume, for a moment, the Royals make a September run at the playoffs. Do we call up Ventura or not?

Depends on how the rest of the bullpen is pitching. If Crow, Collins, Coleman, etc. are all throwing well, you leave him down.

If you need to stabilize the pen a bit, you bring him up and let him go Matt Moore/Trevor Rosenthal out of the pen.

Great Expectations 07-10-2013 03:48 PM

I think Ventura needs to perform better in AAA before we bring him up. If he goes beast mode after the break he might get a look to start in the bigs next year, but I'd be looking for him to be at best a June call up next year.

Coach 07-10-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9803652)
Depends on how the rest of the bullpen is pitching. If Crow, Collins, Coleman, etc. are all throwing well, you leave him down.

If you need to stabilize the pen a bit, you bring him up and let him go Matt Moore/Trevor Rosenthal out of the pen.

I'd move Davis to the pen and find a back-end starter before I'd move up Ventura. But that's just me.

Sure-Oz 07-10-2013 07:20 PM

Ventura won't be called up this year. If he does get called it will be late in the season for the pen

Hootie 07-10-2013 07:23 PM

I've been watching wondering...specifically game 1 of the Yankees series. When we're in an 8th inning jam, runners on the corners up 3-1 with 2 outs...why don't we put in Holland for the 4 out save? Doesn't that just make sense?

CoMoChief 07-10-2013 07:35 PM

If the Royals trade Santana it shows they've given up on the season.


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