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KCBlitz 02-04-2025 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17950661)
I understand looking at the physical gifts alone and trying to make an argument for Allen…

However, what good are the physical gifts if they don’t result in tangible accomplishments?

If you can’t use those gifts to win MVPs and postseason games, you’re nothing more than a great QB in concept.

Every argument for Allen starts with an “if” and ignores the obvious intangible advantages that Mahomes has.

“If Allen had Andy Reid…”
“If Allen had Travis Kelce…”
“If Allen had Brett Veach…”

Yeah, well what if Allen had Mahomes’s brain and clutch gene? He doesn’t, which is a large part of why Josh Allen has won jack shit despite all the physical gifts.

That’s it. They won’t acknowledge that Mahomes’ faster processing skills and intellect is what separates the two. Plus Mahomes being calm under pressure vs Allen being so burden by the pressure has a lot to do with their success rate.

Allen seems like a great guy. He wants to win so baldly for that fanbase. It’s the delusional fans that make it hard to root for him and that team to have any meaningful success.

Bearcat 02-04-2025 01:00 PM

It would be really interesting to know the depth of each of their game planning and then all the decisions during the game.... obviously Reid makes Mahomes better, but exactly how much better does Mahomes make Reid in terms of play calling?

We get snippets of it... "do we have time for Wasp?", he was telling them several weeks ago to keep feeding Kareem at the goal line. He wasn't leaving the field on that 4th & 1 in the AFCCG.

I'm sure there are snippets of Allen doing the same stuff, they both demand the ball when it matters most and every once in a while I wonder if it could be to a detriment (Mahomes going back out against the Jags in the playoffs with almost no weight on the bad ankle).

How often is each player driving that bus and what's the net positive effect... my assumption would be that's another difference between the two, yet we have almost no visibility to it.

O.city 02-04-2025 01:11 PM

We've got Andy's history before Pat vs with Pat.

While sure, Pat benefits from Andy it's pretty clear what the deal is here.

htismaqe 02-04-2025 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17950728)
We've got Andy's history before Pat vs with Pat.

While sure, Pat benefits from Andy it's pretty clear what the deal is here.

Exactly. Pat is the cake, Andy is the icing.

Bearcat 02-04-2025 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17950728)
We've got Andy's history before Pat vs with Pat.

While sure, Pat benefits from Andy it's pretty clear what the deal is here.

Sure, Mahomes is obviously the best quarterback Andy's ever had and if it was a clear, black & white setup where Andy designs and calls the plays and Mahomes obliges, Mahomes would clearly be the best at executing those plays.

I'm just curious about the added value of him and Allen beyond that...coming to the sidelines wanting to run Wasp, input on game plans each week due to film study and so forth, etc. That's the stuff we have little visibility outside of some NFL Films stuff (and I know nothing about from Allen).

Coochie liquor 02-04-2025 01:58 PM

If I’m the Bills, I’d be on the phone with Dorsey’s agents to see what it would take to pry him away from Detroit. Maybe like a co GM thing, because whoever is scouting for the Bills currently is absolutely bad at his job. I also would have fired McDumbass immediately after 13 seconds. In those 13 seconds he showed you what he was made of. He turtled up, and cost his team that game. They will NEVER win a championship with McD as their coach.

ptlyon 02-04-2025 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17950675)
Mr. January haha

I honestly hope that ****stain is on a beach enjoying his ****ing corona wondering what the **** happened

Chiefspants 02-04-2025 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17950777)
If I’m the Bills, I’d be on the phone with Dorsey’s agents to see what it would take to pry him away from Detroit. Maybe like a co GM thing, because whoever is scouting for the Bills currently is absolutely bad at his job. I also would have fired McDumbass immediately after 13 seconds. In those 13 seconds he showed you what he was made of. He turtled up, and cost his team that game. They will NEVER win a championship with McD as their coach.

The fact that Dorsey can’t hold onto a job despite drafting what, four hall of famers (and that’s not counting his time with Green Bay), shows that there may be an issue outside of talent that’s keeping him from a GM spot.

If I’m Buffalo, I’d see if he’d consider Director of College Scouting to be enough of a promotion and back up the Brinks Truck to make it happen.

Kiimo 02-06-2025 05:23 PM

Just bumping this thread to ask











How many days has it been since Buffalo won a road playoff game now

Kiimo 02-06-2025 05:26 PM

Nevermind, it's 11,716 days.








I'll bump the thread tomorrow to give you another update

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-06-2025 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17953484)
Just bumping this thread to ask











How many days has it been since Buffalo won a road playoff game now

1993 AFC Championship game against the Dolphins

Rainbarrel 02-06-2025 05:32 PM

Josh Allen ended the Chiefs perfect season!

staylor26 02-06-2025 07:47 PM

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Pepe Silvia 02-06-2025 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17950983)
The fact that Dorsey can’t hold onto a job despite drafting what, four hall of famers (and that’s not counting his time with Green Bay), shows that there may be an issue outside of talent that’s keeping him from a GM spot.

He has a Herman Munster look to him as well.

Rainbarrel 02-06-2025 07:51 PM

Becoming Chase


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