Originally Posted by Bengal Billy (Post 17885081)

"team that hates you the most in the league" ?
Can't speak for the "team", but as a life-long Cincy fan, I can unequivocally state that the team I hate most in the league is, and always will be, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Point.Blank.Period.

Originally Posted by Bengal Billy (Post 17885093)

Totally agree.
It's gotta be a mix of excellent play/stats while also elevating those around him to team success.

Burrow's stats are crazy good, but team success nope.

On the flip side, Mahomes' stats are not great, but him elevating play and resulting team success is off the charts (15-1).
Mahomes isn't even in the MVP convo this year with a 15-1 team. Why?

Burrow shouldn't be either, although he is killing it stats-wise

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17885082)

Was wondering when you’d pull that card. I never said that, of course. I said he’s not the most valuable player in the league. You act like that’s a huge insult. Like I said, you could make a much better case for OPOY.

If Blaine Gabbert came in for Mahomes and posted a better record and good stats, you know damn well you’d say it hurts his case for most valuable player. ROFL

Especially if Mahomes were only beating scrubs.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17885094)

Yeah, I think that's how most fans operate... not so much about postseason rivalries or shorter term things, but the rivalries that span decades.

I've never really had hatred for teams that were just better than the Chiefs, so most of my life they just weren't good enough to have great rivalries. I'm not old enough for the true Chiefs/Raiders hatred of the 70s when players wanted to really, seriously, kill each other... and the Broncos just haven't been good at the same time as the Chiefs, outside of the mid-late 90s, which seems like a few lifetimes ago at this point.

Those teams certainly aren't neutral, but I've spent far more time laughing at them than hating them.... or in say the Broncos' Manning years, shrugging that they were just better.

I'd put the Bills at the top of the list of my teams to hate.... I'll always say, at least (for the most part) Bengals fans, the team, and apparently mayor earned bragging rights before they ended up taking it too far and paying dearly for it.

Bills fans have been flapping their gums since before the 2020 AFCCG and have absolutely nothing to show for it.

Originally Posted by Bengal Billy (Post 17885081)

"team that hates you the most in the league" ?
Can't speak for the "team", but as a life-long Cincy fan, I can unequivocally state that the team I hate most in the league is, and always will be, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Point.Blank.Period.

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17885226)

Yup. I actually have zero hate for the Chiefs. Pit can go suck a rusty pipe that's been dipped in AIDS and then shoved up Clay's arsehole.

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 17885243)

Yeah I was specifically talking about the players. Chase refusing to say Mahomes name as the #1 player and rooting for “anyone but the Chiefs” makes it pretty easy to see who they hate the most. Circling a week 2 game and letting it essentially cost you a playoff spot because you forgot to game plan for the worst team in the league is the price they payed for it too.

I know I’ll definitely be rooting for the Bengals to get in over the ****ing Donkeys so I understand the division rivalry thing for sure. It’s why all the betas hoping we lose this weekend to not give the Bungles a chance make me sick. You never turn down the opportunity to end your division rivals season.

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17884869)

The only people comparing are Chiefs fans. I'm not comparing Burrow to Mahomes, just saying that he's had an MVP worthy season with absolute shit around him. Chiefs fans keep bringing up 2018.

Also, you don't know if Burrow has peaked. You certainly hope he has but i doubt it.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17885269)

He has arguably the best weapons in the league. Wouldn't say it's absolute shit. OL's weak but LT isn't too bad, which is most important by far.

The defense isn't very good, but it wasn't the reason they lost 16-10 to NE. They also held KC to 19 offensive points and Joe's fumble-6 was the difference. If you want a realistic shot at MVP, don't piss down your leg in those games and win a shootout once in awhile.

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17885226)

Yup. I actually have zero hate for the Chiefs. Pit can go suck a rusty pipe that's been dipped in AIDS and then shoved up Clay's arsehole.

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17885310)

I'm expecting some coming up soon.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17885335)

Are you saying you expect Wentz and the 3rd/4th string to win in Denver? ROFL

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17885364)

I think it's just a bridge too far for Cincy. I don't see the Jets beating anybody, and our backups probably lose on Sunday. One might happen, but both? That's some long ****ing odds there.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17885335)

Are you saying you expect Wentz and the 3rd/4th string to win in Denver? ROFL