Was wondering when you’d pull that card. I never said that, of course. I said he’s not the most valuable player in the league. You act like that’s a huge insult. Like I said, you could make a much better case for OPOY.

If Blaine Gabbert came in for Mahomes and posted a better record and good stats, you know damn well you’d say it hurts his case for most valuable player. ROFL

Especially if Mahomes were only beating scrubs.

I have no shame in it. Go Wentz!!!!!

Butker shank a game winner? Cmon, no chance he never does that.

That would be an intentional tank job if I were to ever see one Lol!

Baker vs Burrow - very similar line with a better record. Baker's case for MVP in my opinion is stronger than Burrow's and I''m not suggesting either one should get it. Burrow's best win was the Broncos game and only one that MIGHT make the playoffs. Baker has 3 wins against current playoff teams including the LIONS!

2024 Season

Passing

Completions 386 423
Attempts 538 606
Percentage 71.7 69.8
Yards 4,279 4,641
Yds/Att 8.0 7.7
TD 39 42
INT 15 8
Sacked 39 44

Rushing

Attempts 51 41
Yards 310 202
Yds/Att 6.1 4.9
Long 21 47

This how we are with the Broncos...and will never change no matter how many times Mahomes beats them. He is 13-1 so far....

You can root for Wentz...we were rooting for the Bunglers on Saturday. Your team really tried it's best to live up to that name...

Totally agree.
It's gotta be a mix of excellent play/stats while also elevating those around him to team success.

Burrow's stats are crazy good, but team success nope.

On the flip side, Mahomes' stats are not great, but him elevating play and resulting team success is off the charts (15-1).
Mahomes isn't even in the MVP convo this year with a 15-1 team. Why?

Burrow shouldn't be either, although he is killing it stats-wise

Yeah, I think that's how most fans operate... not so much about postseason rivalries or shorter term things, but the rivalries that span decades.

I've never really had hatred for teams that were just better than the Chiefs, so most of my life they just weren't good enough to have great rivalries. I'm not old enough for the true Chiefs/Raiders hatred of the 70s when players wanted to really, seriously, kill each other... and the Broncos just haven't been good at the same time as the Chiefs, outside of the mid-late 90s, which seems like a few lifetimes ago at this point.

Those teams certainly aren't neutral, but I've spent far more time laughing at them than hating them.... or in say the Broncos' Manning years, shrugging that they were just better.

I'd put the Bills at the top of the list of my teams to hate.... I'll always say, at least (for the most part) Bengals fans, the team, and apparently mayor earned bragging rights before they ended up taking it too far and paying dearly for it.

Bills fans have been flapping their gums since before the 2020 AFCCG and have absolutely nothing to show for it.

Say ‘Go Chiefs’

stupid mayor. Lol

Win or Lose, Bungals games typically are fun to watch there's a lot of action. Usually a lot of scoring, boneheaded miscues left and right, doinks and missed FGs, close games , etc.

Wouldn't have been a good game the other night without the Bungles showing up for some antics:
4th and 1 give up a prayer TD with 8sec left,,
Cade York's doink hahahaha

They're a dang roller coaster for sure

Lol. Yes I'm rooting for the Chiefs to beat Denver

They should put in our backup kicker, a safety, to try a long one, lol.

Personally, I think plenty of QBs could have solid success behind Allen's OL, with that running game and coordinator, and their schedule this year. But he's obviously had a good season.

Yeah. I posted Pat's GWDs for this year earlier in this thread. Not the stuff of legends. A grand total of 2 passes that travelled 10+ air yards.

Wowzers! But it's ok that Pat can't put up Burrow numbers anymore cause he just waits and wins the game.