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Mecca 04-29-2024 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17503387)
The copium in that thread is just as good lol...

They're literally trying to sell themselves on KJ Hamler.

DRM08 04-29-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17503148)
Bills are wasting away Allen's prime. Their team, as constructed, is nowhere near to a SB contender. They'd have to hit on the next couple of drafts to have a chance and make one last run while Allen is still elite. Aside from the Chiefs, they'll have to still compete against the Bengals, Texans and maybe Chargers. All teams with top 5 QBs. I don't see any hope. Sucks to be a Bills fan.

Ravens are a contender as well. AFC is loaded.

MahomesMagic 04-29-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503487)
Ravens are a contender as well. AFC is loaded.

Colts and Browns could also be dangerous.They can play a game we don't like where they pound the ball right at you over and over.

Not that I think we would lose but our D is designed to stop the pass primarily.

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17503494)
Colts and Browns could also be dangerous.They can play a game we don't like where they pound the ball right at you over and over.

Not that I think we would lose but our D is designed to stop the pass primarily.

Anthony Richardson is going to have to show he can not get injured...

Pitt Gorilla 04-29-2024 12:14 PM

Coleman struggled to get open in college. How is that going to improve in the NFL?

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17503498)
Coleman struggled to get open in college. How is that going to improve in the NFL?

Some dudes can be successful playing that way, Anquan Bolden made an entire career of it, just dunno if it fits the way Allen plays though.

mr. tegu 04-29-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17503494)
Colts and Browns could also be dangerous.They can play a game we don't like where they pound the ball right at you over and over.

Not that I think we would lose but our D is designed to stop the pass primarily.


No team QB’d by discount Justin Fields is dangerous.

MahomesMagic 04-29-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17503496)
Anthony Richardson is going to have to show he can not get injured...

Of course.


But when he was on the field last year he was very good for a rookie.

And Steichen to me is the guy who made Hurts next level.

Monticore 04-29-2024 12:17 PM

With the lack of weapons I could see Allen having a monster year rushing , until he gets injured anyways

tredadda 04-29-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17503422)
I think Shakir lines up to start as the #1 but the focal in this version of the Sean Payton offense is Kincaid.

They should. With Diggs gone he is the biggest receiving threat on that team.

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:21 PM

James Cook is about to get 350 touches.

MahomesMagic 04-29-2024 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17503512)
James Cook is about to get 350 touches.

That Kentucky RB they got looks like a nice play to take some touches away from Cook.


Buffalo did well late in the draft, just don't think its enough.

Jerm 04-29-2024 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17503434)
They're literally trying to sell themselves on KJ Hamler.

Highlights for me so far from that thread...

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Best wr in the draft. He's insanely gifted
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Bills drafted a better version of Mike Evans.
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Best wr in this class next to mhj
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Will be better than Puka
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We radically changed our board. And got the better WR.

Worthy will not be what you think he will. Keon looks like the next guy to catch 4 TDs against KC in the AFC Championship game.

And do it year after year.
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As @Dr.Mantis_Tobogganmentioned in another post, I see a Terrell Owens type projection for Keon. Same drive. Same dawg mentality. I'm loving Brandon Beane right now!!
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The greatest WR of all time had a 4.6 40 time. His name was Jerry Rice. Hear of him?

No I am not trying to compare him to Jerry Rice. 40 times aren't as important.

Did anyone actually watch any tap? do you understand what the Bills have for WR right now? They are looking for a big receiver with good hands who can move the sticks and not somewho who can run a 4.2 and catch a football underhanded like a basket.

Get real.
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The more I watch of Keon Coleman, especially his Michigan State tape, the more I see Tee Higgins.
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First thing I said is Worthy speed is going to get negated in the bad weather in Buffalo late in season and post season, especially when the games get more physical because he isn’t strong. And when it does, he is going to be easier to take out of games.
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Assuming Coleman isn't supplanted by a FA pickup before training camp, I'll predict Coleman puts up a top-4 rookie WR season this year
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Don't forget Puka...pretty much a direct comp on who he could be, especially after I saw Puka play basketball
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It's amazing to me the "BuT sLoW 40 TiMe!" crowd just keeps ignoring all this other data that shows his game speed is elite (and also ignore he ran 4.5 on his pro day)
There's more but still....

Delusional doesn't even begin to describe these ****ing morons.

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:40 PM

I hate when people use that "so and so ran 4.6" today's game is completely different. The game is getting faster and faster.

ToxSocks 04-29-2024 12:47 PM

The biggest problem with Coleman is that he's billed as a "Contested Catch, Jump Ball guy". They try to comp him to Drake London.

But when you watch him...like actually watch all his snaps....he doesn't come down with contested balls nearly as much as you'd think or what he's sold as.

He is NOT Drake London or Mike Williams etc. He doesn't have that ability like those guys do. Not to their extent.

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17503574)
The biggest problem with Coleman is that he's billed as a "Contested Catch, Jump Ball guy". They try to comp him to Drake London.

But when you watch him...like actually watch all his snaps....he doesn't come down with contested balls nearly as much as you'd think or what he's sold as.

He is NOT Drake London or Mike Williams etc. He doesn't have that ability like those guys do. Not to their extent.

He's slower Allen Robinson...

staylor26 04-29-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17503574)
The biggest problem with Coleman is that he's billed as a "Contested Catch, Jump Ball guy". They try to comp him to Drake London.

But when you watch him...like actually watch all his snaps....he doesn't come down with contested balls nearly as much as you'd think or what he's sold as.

He is NOT Drake London or Mike Williams etc. He doesn't have that ability like those guys do. Not to their extent.

That's why I think his best bet is big slot, and it's why I don't understand the pick, even though I probably like the player a lot more than most.

All they have are guys that would be best used in the slot. It makes zero sense, and it's oddly the same thing Daboll has done in NY (until they drafted Nabers).

Jerm 04-29-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17503574)
The biggest problem with Coleman is that he's billed as a "Contested Catch, Jump Ball guy". They try to comp him to Drake London.

But when you watch him...like actually watch all his snaps....he doesn't come down with contested balls nearly as much as you'd think or what he's sold as.

He is NOT Drake London or Mike Williams etc. He doesn't have that ability like those guys do. Not to their extent.

The only reason he got picked where he did is because of this athletic profile and because he Moss'd some jabronis from Wake Forest and Boston College.

Like he does nothing really well that'll translate...I was initially intrigued by him but then I watched a lot of his stuff and came away thinking someone is gonna fall in love with the size and build and this guy is gonna be a bust.

Rainbarrel 04-29-2024 01:00 PM

Bills fans got some dog in them, they eat their own shit too

duncan_idaho 04-29-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17503593)
That's why I think his best bet is big slot, and it's why I don't understand the pick, even though I probably like the player a lot more than most.

All they have are guys that would be best used in the slot. It makes zero sense, and it's oddly the same thing Daboll has done in NY (until they drafted Nabers).

What I can't track is how they plan to use Coleman, Kincaid, and Shakir together. All 3 of those guys are best working out of a slot role and running short, intermediate stuff.

Something's gotta give.

MahomesMagic 04-29-2024 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17503574)
The biggest problem with Coleman is that he's billed as a "Contested Catch, Jump Ball guy". They try to comp him to Drake London.

But when you watch him...like actually watch all his snaps....he doesn't come down with contested balls nearly as much as you'd think or what he's sold as.

He is NOT Drake London or Mike Williams etc. He doesn't have that ability like those guys do. Not to their extent.

He’s not even close to Drake London. The only reason why people don’t get more excited about London is the horrible usage and coaching in Atlanta along with crap QB play.

I think Buffalo thinks they are getting Slant Boy 2.0 for their version of the Payton offense.

staylor26 04-29-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17503659)
What I can't track is how they plan to use Coleman, Kincaid, and Shakir together. All 3 of those guys are best working out of a slot role and running short, intermediate stuff.

Something's gotta give.

Yea, that's exactly what I'm questioning. I don't really understand how you use all of these guys together. They don't compliment each other well at all.

It's the complete opposite of Kelce/Rice/Brown/Worthy, who compliment each other perfectly.

staylor26 04-29-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17503673)
He’s not even close to Drake London. The only reason why people don’t get more excited about London is the horrible usage and coaching in Atlanta along with crap QB play.

I think Buffalo thinks they are getting Slant Boy 2.0 for their version of the Payton offense.

I've seen a MT comp, but Coleman wasn't really used that way in college, so it's a complete projection if that's the case.

Sofa King 04-29-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17503294)
Do you split them into 2 dynasties, or are they just one, 1990-present?

Two separate ones. Just like the Chargers. Different QB's means different off-season Super Bowl winning eras.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2024 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17503578)
He's slower Allen Robinson...

He might be Marquis Colston.

I mean that's the top 10% outcome for him from what I can see. Colston never really separated a ton and wasn't a premier 'ball-getter'. He was just big and caught what got near him.

Because he had Drew Brees - football throwing robot - delivering him the ball.

Allen ain't that.

Colston had an amazing career and you take his 10K career receiving yards to the bank every single time. But there's a real question as to how much was Colston being gifted and how much was being in an offense with a QB with legendary ball placement and being allowed to operate in a big slot style role.

DRM08 04-29-2024 04:32 PM

Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

RedinTexas 04-29-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

I think Denver fans and Buffalo fans have merged into one.

staylor26 04-29-2024 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17503922)
He might be Marquis Colston.

I mean that's the top 10% outcome for him from what I can see. Colston never really separated a ton and wasn't a premier 'ball-getter'. He was just big and caught what got near him.

Because he had Drew Brees - football throwing robot - delivering him the ball.

Allen ain't that.

Colston had an amazing career and you take his 10K career receiving yards to the bank every single time. But there's a real question as to how much was Colston being gifted and how much was being in an offense with a QB with legendary ball placement and being allowed to operate in a big slot style role.

Wow, I did not remember that Colston was that good for that long. I swear it felt like he had 4-5 really good seasons, but it's more like 9.

staylor26 04-29-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

They reacted similarly to McDuffie and Elam.

Bearcat 04-29-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

Well shit, and they have such a good track record of predicting things correctly... might as well bring back Moore and Toney.

DRM08 04-29-2024 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17503945)
They reacted similarly to McDuffie and Elam.

They’ve been spinning everything as hard as they can the last 6+ years. They’ll keep spinning hardcore for the next 10+ years. And hopefully they still have zero rings to show for it. Lol

duncan_idaho 04-29-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

I had not seen this cockiness, but like their assuredness that Allen is, in fact, better than Mahomes, just less lucky and with less around him, it will end up being another thing we laugh about.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2024 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

staylor26 04-29-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

Who gives a flying ****? Dan Orlovsky isn't even a draft guy, he's just a former QB and talking head. He's probably one of the idiots that thinks Worthy is just a fast gadget guy.

DRM08 04-29-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

He also says Burrow is better than Mahomes. Screw him

Pepe Silvia 04-29-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

Veach has a terrible track record with WR's, he's probably not wrong.

Coochie liquor 04-30-2024 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504005)
Veach has a terrible track record with WR's, he's probably not wrong.

I liked you better when you were a Packers fan. Let’s go back to that!

duncan_idaho 04-30-2024 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504005)
Veach has a terrible track record with WR's, he's probably not wrong.


Except he doesn’t. He has an average track record, relative to the draft capital he has spent.

FlaChief58 04-30-2024 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

His claim to fame is not knowing that it's illegal to step out of the back of the end zone. He's an idiot that happens to have the gift of gab.

staylor26 04-30-2024 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504005)
Veach has a terrible track record with WR's, he's probably not wrong.

****ing moron.

crispystl 04-30-2024 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17503503)
With the lack of weapons I could see Allen having a monster year rushing , until he gets injured anyways

I was wondering if they plan to pound the shit out of the ball again this year and that's why they went with the bigger contested catch guy?

If so I sure don't envy them. Seems like a decision bourn from desperation on account of the lack of talent at WR.

RealSNR 04-30-2024 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504005)
Veach has a terrible track record with WR's, he's probably not wrong.

Go be a Packer fan again, dipshit. They've got a great track record with WRs.

RealSNR 04-30-2024 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

Dan Orlovsky sucks Josh Allen cock hard and long all season until Mahomes beats him in the playoffs, then he acts like he had always believed Mahomes was better and never once extolled Josh Allen as the best QB in the NFL.

He's obviously trying to pump up his precious boo's confidence

ThrobProng 04-30-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

Dan Orlovsky devours man meat like it's going out of style.

duncan_idaho 04-30-2024 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17504503)
I was wondering if they plan to pound the shit out of the ball again this year and that's why they went with the bigger contested catch guy?

If so I sure don't envy them. Seems like a decision bourn from desperation on account of the lack of talent at WR.

And a QB who can't be trusted to throw the ball all over the place and not turn it over.

Jerm 04-30-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

This makes me feel even better about Worthy...

I'm tellin ya, the retroactive bullshit with Worthy is gonna be hilarious...he'll be tearing the league up and asshats like Orlovsky will be like I KNEW IT...I TOLD ALL OF YOU.

Bearcat 04-30-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504005)
Veach has a terrible track record with WR's, he's probably not wrong.

I think you mean the NFL script writers have given Veach a terrible track record with WRs.

KCBlitz 04-30-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.


He also thinks Burrow is a better qb than Mahomes.

Bl00dyBizkitz 04-30-2024 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

I wonder how thats worked out for them in the past...

Bl00dyBizkitz 04-30-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

Reminder that Dan Orlovsky ran out of the back of the endzone like a dumbass. Wasn't he part of the 0-16 Lions?

TomBarndtsTwin 04-30-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17503998)
Dan Orlovsky said that he believes Coleman is a better player/pick than Worthy.

Whether Coleman is a better player than Worthy, I don't know. Time will prove that one out.

But to argue he is a better PICK than Worthy is completely ****ing stupid. Worthy was a great pick for the Chiefs, fills a defined role and is something this team needed. Coleman is not a good fit for Buffalo and what they do as they literally already have two players on their roster that can do what he does. He doesn't really 'add' much to that offense.

He may end up being a great player (I don't know) but Worthy to KC made a LOT more sense than Coleman to Buffalo.

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2024 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17504736)
I think you mean the NFL script writers have given Veach a terrible track record with WRs.

That and good WR's don't want to play for the Chiefs. Probably why Clark is trying to move.

staylor26 04-30-2024 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504953)
That and good WR's don't want to play for the Chiefs. Probably why Clark is trying to move.

The Chiefs just got the second best FA WR on a cheap one year deal.

Just about every WR in the draft, including Worthy, said they wanted to play for the Chiefs before the draft.

What are you on about? You're absolutely ****ing clueless.

loochy 04-30-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17504972)
The Chiefs just got the second best FA WR on a cheap one year deal.

Just about every WR in the draft, including Worthy, said they wanted to play for the Chiefs before the draft.

What are you on about? You're absolutely ****ing clueless.


I think it's sarcasm man

staylor26 04-30-2024 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17504985)
I think it's sarcasm man

I think you aren't considering the poster man.

loochy 04-30-2024 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17504989)
I think you aren't considering the poster man.


Nobody could seriously think that receivers wouldn't make this their #1 place to play assuming equal payment. Of course they are out for the dollar first and foremost, but of course every player would want to play on a close knit team, catching passes from the GOAT, winning super bowls, and playing for a HOF coach that is a player's coach.

Bearcat 04-30-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17504953)
That and good WR's don't want to play for the Chiefs. Probably why Clark is trying to move.

Well, I guess Dwayne Bowe didn't get that memo.

loochy 04-30-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17505007)
Well, I guess Dwayne Bowe didn't get that memo.


Taste DwayneBowe

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2024 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17504484)
I liked you better when you were a Packers fan. Let’s go back to that!

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17504507)
Go be a Packer fan again, dipshit. They've got a great track record with WRs.

I can't, I don't really know much about them.

Monticore 04-30-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17505033)
I can't, I don't really know much about them.

You don’t seem to know much about anything.

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2024 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17505044)
You don’t seem to know much about anything.

I haven't been wrong about anything, people just don't like the truth.

Rainbarrel 04-30-2024 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

Stefon Diggs is no longer there to tell them and their QB to be smart. They'll need to grab the stove grate a few times

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17503925)
Buffalo fans are super cocky about Xavier Worthy turning into John Ross or Mecole Hardman, with Keon Coleman turning into Terrell Owens or Jerry Rice.

I remember those days of Chief fandom, trying to talk yourself into believing they made the right picks and they were going to finally win it all...

Tribal Warfare 05-02-2024 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17505309)
I remember those days of Chief fandom, trying to talk yourself into believing they made the right picks and they were going to finally win it all...

I remember the 90's

mr. tegu 05-02-2024 08:22 AM

Perusing the Bills board and I’m starting to see some chatter and concern by some of them that Allen may want to leave to play California in a few years. Reasons being that he’s from there, lives there out of season, some QB needy teams with better coaches, easier conference, and the idea that he might be tired of playing for a team that they believe let’s him down. Honestly it doesn’t seem like a completely impossible scenario.

ThrobProng 05-02-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17507042)
Perusing the Bills board and I’m starting to see some chatter and concern by some of them that Allen may want to leave to play California in a few years. Reasons being that he’s from there, lives there out of season, some QB needy teams with better coaches, easier conference, and the idea that he might be tired of playing for a team that they believe let’s him down. Honestly it doesn’t seem like a completely impossible scenario.

They wouldn't say it, but the most likely reason Allen would leave is that Buffalo is a frozen shithole.

RunKC 05-02-2024 08:41 AM

PFF had Coleman as the worst separator in this draft. I don’t get it at all. He’s probably best in that Rice role in the middle of the field but you already have 2 TE’s already doing that.

I have no clue what these guys think they’re doing. Puka is the outlier not the norm and he was a way better technician than Coleman.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Man, putting all your eggs in the Keon Coleman basket AND expecting him to play the position his profile suggests isn&#39;t where he fits...<br><br>Doesn&#39;t feel ideal. <a href="https://t.co/iSvUiHFsAu">https://t.co/iSvUiHFsAu</a></p>&mdash; Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1785663116711256310?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 05-02-2024 08:43 AM

If you squint maybe you hope he becomes Dwyane Bowe?

Bowe wasn't a premier separator - just a guy who knew how to use his body to shield guys off. And he didn't need good QB play to be pretty effective...obviously.

Best justification for the pick/plan I've got.

staylor26 05-02-2024 08:52 AM

Lol this is exactly what I've been saying about the pick:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yep… my two worst “landing spots based on likely improper use” is Coleman and Nabers…. but obviously high volume on other side. I’m very conflicted. <a href="https://t.co/aMACz867gI">pic.twitter.com/aMACz867gI</a></p>&mdash; Chet (@WeirdSciChet) <a href="https://twitter.com/WeirdSciChet/status/1785013552140706268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RedinTexas 05-02-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17505309)
I remember those days of Chief fandom, trying to talk yourself into believing they made the right picks and they were going to finally win it all...

Holy Crap! Isn't this the truth. I was 8 years old when the Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 1969 and I thought every player on the Chiefs was the very best at his position in all of football. I spent the next 8 years or so in absolute denial about where the Chiefs were and where they were going. It was always injuries or bad luck that were to blame. It's like an alcoholic that can't accept they have a problem until they absolutely hit rock bottom. Rock bottom for the Chiefs came in 1977. When will Denver fans stand up and accept they've hit rock bottom?

ETA - I lost track of the fact that this thread is about the Bills and made my response about the Broncos. Oh well.

RunKC 05-03-2024 09:16 AM

They just signed Chase Claypool lol

staylor26 05-03-2024 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17508365)
They just signed Chase Claypool lol

Claypool and Coleman as your outside WRs?

Bold strategy Cotton!

Jerm 05-03-2024 09:32 AM

I can't wait to see the contortions that idiotic fanbase does to try and justify Claypool being anything for them...

Bowser 05-03-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17508367)
Claypool and Coleman as your outside WRs?

Bold strategy Cotton!

Not exactly Diggs and Davis, eh?

staylor26 05-03-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17508394)
Not exactly Diggs and Davis, eh?

I like Coleman more than most, but I think his best fit is big slot, not X.

As a boom or bust guy, it just feels like that could be the difference between him being successful or not.

Rainbarrel 05-03-2024 10:57 AM

I think it was part of JA's contract. That he send Beane draft boards to grade

Buehler445 05-03-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17507066)
If you squint maybe you hope he becomes Dwyane Bowe?

Bowe wasn't a premier separator - just a guy who knew how to use his body to shield guys off. And he didn't need good QB play to be pretty effective...obviously.

Best justification for the pick/plan I've got.

IMO young Bowe was a much better athlete than Coleman. He had much better short area quickness and better (if unrefined) feet. Old Bowe hitting up too much Sonic wasn't that guy anymore. But young Bowe IMO was a better athlete coming out.

Plus, GOD ****ING Squimin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards was going to "establish the run" so when Bowe got the ball it was a surprise and he didn't get great coverage. Go look at the highlights, he beat some really shittacular coverage. Maybe that's what BooFaloo is going for, but eventually Coleman is going to have to win on 3rd and long (remember Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards wasn't super good there in the R2P2 days), and I don't like what I see there. Diggs could absolutely RAPE intermediate routes. Coleman ain't that dude.

Rausch 05-03-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17507076)

ETA - I lost track of the fact that this thread is about the Bills and made my response about the Broncos. Oh well.

One could make a case that the Bills are like the Elway Broncos.

Only Horse-face could actually make a SB...

Pitt Gorilla 05-03-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17507064)
PFF had Coleman as the worst separator in this draft. I don’t get it at all. He’s probably best in that Rice role in the middle of the field but you already have 2 TE’s already doing that.

I have no clue what these guys think they’re doing. Puka is the outlier not the norm and he was a way better technician than Coleman.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Man, putting all your eggs in the Keon Coleman basket AND expecting him to play the position his profile suggests isn&#39;t where he fits...<br><br>Doesn&#39;t feel ideal. <a href="https://t.co/iSvUiHFsAu">https://t.co/iSvUiHFsAu</a></p>&mdash; Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1785663116711256310?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That was my argument all along; the guy couldn't get open in college. Why do folks think he will in the League?

Basileus777 05-03-2024 03:38 PM

Bills fans having to talk themselves into Chase Claypool is quality entertainment.


Bills have no receivers good against man coverage, they seem to think that defenses are just going to keep their safeties deep and play zone no matter what. Good luck winning playoff games like that, Spags will have these guys clamped down again even without Sneed. Bills fans have collectively forgotten how their receivers couldn't get separation in that playoff game, but the rest of the league hasn't.


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