Greg Swaim = butthurt.

This OKStateTweets guy. **** him.

That would be bullshit, but I think everyone knew MU preferred B10 over SEC.

Last year Mizzou preferred Big 10. But after getting screwed by them and left at the alter, maybe not so much this year. I think the quote in question really refers to last year's sentiments and not the current ones.

I could see Chip Brown saying that. I can see Texas putting him up to it, despite Wickedson's claims about how wonderful and honest a business partner Texas is.

If both the B10 & the SEC offered MU, which do you think they would take? Today, not last year.

I don't think everyone knows anything frankly.

Big Ten was expanding last year, SEC wasn't.

Big Ten will offer junior membership, SEC will offer full membership from day one.

This doesn't make sense.

Try reading it again or asking a follow-up question. It is not a complex sentence.

B1G didn't "screw" anybody.

I honestly don't know. I would lean toward B1G, but I do not think it is a slam dunk. It would depend on whether B1G would make us a full member or a junior member. If Mizzou had to wait 5 years like NE to get full financial benefits, then I think the SEC might still be the favorite.

I think the B1G led Missouri on, and if NE had not basically thrown themselves at B1G like a two dollar whore, then they would have taken Mizzou. Just my opinion though.

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown
I don't know who @Gswaim and @OKStateTweets are, but them saying I'm an "administrator" quoted in an AP story is hilarious - and a lie.

IMHO it was up to Mizzou to control their business and to not say "yes" before B1G had popped the question. They needed to make it clear they were in exploratory phase and that nothing had been signed and to downplay any premature assumptions.

This is a lesson MU has obviously learned as evidenced by how they are handling the SEC issue.
Personally I would very much have liked to see the MU program join the B1G. They are a solid all-around school and program.

sptwri
Just checked on Birmingham col saying MU doesn't have enough votes to get into SEC. Now one more vote for, and told Slive will get the votes

PBJPBJPBJ

@GregSwine Greg Swine
I have it from good sources that OU wants the B1G w/Texas, and the MVC has an agreement to take KU and KSU. Stay tuned for more information.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...dents_fav.html


Majority of SEC presidents favor Missouri, but not yet enough


BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Missouri demonstrated it's ready to publicly dance with the SEC. But will enough SEC presidents agree to the overture?
Two sources familiar with the SEC's discussions about Missouri told The Birmingham News Wednesday that as of now it appears that a majority of SEC presidents and chancellors would support Missouri's application. But the sources said that majority falls just short of the nine votes required to add a new member.

One source said there's a group of presidents that wants to sit tight, believing the SEC can do better than Missouri and that No. 14 should come from the East. According to both sources, Alabama wants to look East and not risk losing its annual game against Tennessee, while Auburn favors adding Missouri and moving to the Eastern Division.

The majority that support Missouri like the school's academic profile, getting the SEC into the St. Louis and Kansas City TV markets, and avoiding the awkwardness of an unbalanced 13-team schedule. SEC athletics directors spent about four hours meeting in Birmingham on Wednesday, after which two ADs said only 13-team scheduling concepts were considered, not 14.SEC expansion these days resides on two different tracks: the one trying to line up No. 14 and the one trying to build 13-team schedules. Both are bumpy journeys that will merge at some point, but it's not clear when or who will be aboard.

On Tuesday, Missouri Chancellor Brady Deaton received authority from his board to look elsewhere. Deaton also took the necessary -- and long overdue -- step of resigning as chairman of the Big 12 board of directors to avoid a conflict of interest.

Those actions make an Associated Press story Wednesday out of Missouri all the more bizarre. The AP quoted an anonymous Missouri official as saying the school hopes to join the SEC but preferred a Big Ten offer that never came.

"That's what's left," the Missouri official said, referring to the SEC.

Talk about a clumsy PR way to win support from the SEC, whose large ego doesn't like the appearance of accepting leftovers, especially the Big Ten's. Was this simply one Missouri official's opinion, a last-ditch plea to the Big Ten, or an attempt to sabotage moving into the SEC?

Either way, it should be troubling to the SEC that Missouri continues to trip over itself when trying to leave the chaotic Big 12. Public flirting with the Big Ten last year left Missouri with egg on its face. At this rate, Missouri would instantly become the most unstable SEC member in a conference fiercely concerned about stability and speaking with one voice.

Missouri isn't a good SEC fit. While it would alleviate unbalanced schedules and add cable subscribers for a potential SEC Network, it's a cultural head-scratcher, the SEC's version of Boston College in the ACC.
Meanwhile, SEC ADs met Wednesday to consider how to schedule with 13 in all sports with the least amount of disruption and most amount of fairness. Good luck.

The "simplest" option in football may be giving Texas A&M four teams from each division and let the dominoes fall from there.

Sure, Texas A&M could play an SEC schedule for one year but not be eligible for Atlanta. But that would be a shocking and unnecessary move by the SEC. Once you're a member, you should be a full member.
Consider the headaches in men's basketball. Changes will be necessary to the new 18-game model that would have kept two annual games between old division foes.

Then there's how to stage an SEC basketball tournament with 13. Leave one team at home? Keep five teams home? Stage a play-in game between the 12th and 13th seeds? Give the regular-season champion, which might have played an easier schedule than others, two byes into the semifinals?
Baseball could easily keep eight teams for its tournament in Hoover. But how is it determined who qualifies? Would there be more SEC games, even perhaps jumping from 30 to 36? And how might that affect NCAA Tournament bids?

Mississippi State AD Scott Stricklin said a couple of football models, which he wouldn't identify, received more consensus than others and probably affect the fewest number of current schedules. But, he cautioned, "There's a lot of moving parts."

None more so than the elephant in the room at the ADs' meeting: Will Missouri be No. 14? There's support, but not yet enough.

Like Chip Brown is going to admit to doing it.

That smelled like a deliberate sabotage attempt when I read it, trumpeted of course by the unholy ****s at ESPrickN. I can't imagine it would actually sway anybody in the SEC with a brain, but could hurt us in public opinion arena.

Would be nice if it could be proven that this Texa$$ turd was the source of it. Seeing him get professionally ruined would absolutely make my day.

This only makes sense from a "what OU wants perspective" Texas would not want the B1G for the same reason they could not agree with the PAC...they would have to give up there Tier 3 rights and the LHN would cease to exist. All B1G teams give their third tier to the B1G network. I do not seeing Texas willing to do that anytime soon.

ROFL

So ChiTown, you think Texas is willing to give up LHN for the B1G then?

There are people within MU's administration that didn't want to go, remember. Deaton was widely considered to be one of them (if not the chief among them).

There's a very good chance that this was nothing more than a rogue MU admin that decided to try to play God. It's a lot more likely than a journalist quoting Chip Brown as an 'unnamed MU admin'

As I understand it nothing would prevent an SEC team from starting their own network, correct? Why does that not worry Mizzou?

Either way, here's hoping it won't screwing Mizzou.

Because the SEC is going to go the B1G route and form an SEC network. Florida already has their own network, from what I have read, it just does not generate the type of money that LHN did, so it does not get the attention. Florida, unlike Texas, will fold their network into a SEC network, and everyone will win.

Did you actually read what he wrote? "The MVC has an agreement to take both KU and KSU..." @GregSwine

Them they're SEC hillbilly's well fall 4 it! /stewie

ROFL

Feel Time Radio. I accurately predict the future and love T Booger Pickens.

mnchiefsguy has outed himself as a dumbass. He can join Stewie and HHG at the back of the room.

SEC owns each schools tier 3 rights, but thus far has allowed each school to market the rights on their own. So it would have to receive approval from the league, which seems unlikely considering that every SEC insider is saying the goal of expansion is to have the infrastructure to support an SEC Network.

And honestly, take off the blinders for just a second and look at the Big 12. Do you honestly think any conference that actually has leadership would allow an LHN type of problem to destroy their league like it has destroyed the Big 12?

Sorry, I did read that, but was focusing more on the OU/Texas part. The MWC part seemed so far out of left field that I did not give it any consideration.

Mengus22 Mark Ennis
by PJ_BOTC
Oh boy. RT @DaveSittler: Source: Big 12 will have two separate announcements today, perhaps late morning. Let the guessing begin.

Mizzou fans are too close to the situation right now. I think the whole lot of them could use a timeout.

eh...


kbohls kbohls
Big 12 presidents and chancellors have voted to invite TCU to join the league, should be finalized over next several days.

Tulsa World guy...

DaveSittler Dave Sittler
Source: On the Big 12- "Be on your toes ALL MORNING. Two separate announcements, probably within hours."

LOL.

Take a break from all of this. It's rotting your brain.

BTW, GregSwine said, MVC, not MWC. An even bigger WTF;)

Just focused on the part of the quote that was in the realm of possibility. Chitown did not specify that he was laughing at that particular part, and I was curious if he actually thought Texas would give up Tier 3 rights to another conference where it would tougher for them to get to the national championship game, when they won't do that for the conference that they are in.

You can join Stewie and HHG at the back of the room, you ****ing dumbass.

OU announces it is a "proud member of the Big 12".

Holy shit. I think my brain just automatically assumed that was a typo.

Boom, ROASTED.

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown
Sources tell OB Big 12 presidents voted this morning to invite TCU and have formally agreed to grant rights on Tier 1 and 2 TV for 6 yrs.

FYP

What exactly does this roast? TCU was on the list of schools to potentially be invited. As to the granting of the rights, I thought all of the schools were different, as in some schools had to have their curators formally vote to grant rights, while some schools allowed their Presidents autonomy to do so.

Please. There's enough butthurt flowing out of Kansas to keep Preparation H in business for next 1,000 years.

HE KNOWS WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

http://burntorangetexas.info/wp-cont...Longhorns1.jpg

LOL @ TCU potentially leaving the Big East and paying a $5 million exit fee before officially playing a game while in the conference.

LMAO

I could understand them doing it. TCU's top priority is getting into a conference that is a BCS AQ. Long term it would be worth the cost, if the BIG XII stays together.

And since the Big East will probably lose AQ status if things keep up, this would be a positive move for them. Plus travel would be easier too.

I get it, but it's still funny.

It is ironic. Although I am sure there is some rich booster down there that will pony up the pocket change.

LMAO

That is one pissed off looking uterus.

I for one welcome our Horned Frog overlords....

So much for UT never allowing TCU.

Actually, since they were not yet part of the Big East, they don't have to pay any exit fee. Banner is up on Sportsline Breaking News that they have been invited and are expected to accept.

Wrong again.

Of course they are expected to accept. They were a mid-major for the last 20 years and the Big East just exploded. Where else would they go?

I suspect another motivation crept into this decision. TCU had been mentioned as a dark horse candidate for further SEC expansion and I think the Texas schools were a bit nervous about two Texas schools in the SEC, so this might have been a bit of a preemptive move to head that off, especially if Mizzou does go to the SEC.

I'm just repeating what was on the banner.

Really?

LOL

What are you, in Junior High?

Interesting. Just saw a tweet that Bama, LSU, Florida, and Georgia are the ones who are in the no column on Mizzou. Interesting that the football strong schools would be in the no, given that Mizzou would be such an easy win on their schedule.

TCU was considered for the SEC? I don't recall reading or hearing that anywhere, even as a dark horse possibility. Got a link for that?

No, he doesn't.

"Unlikely? Sure. Am I the only one who sees it? Probably."

That is an opinion piece, not anything remotely showing ANY interest by the SEC.

Why do people want to be such pricks?

This is sports. It's SERIOUS.

I didn't say "by the SEC", I said:

mnchiefsguy said:

So **** off.

Oh yes, I forget. Thanks for the reminder.

I'm getting word that Tulane has an invitation to the SEC. The Big XII better scoop them up quickly.

Tulane does have that coveted AAU membership.

810 is reporting Mizzou abstained from voting on the TCU expansion offer.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205311929

This is promising.....:hmmm:

So Keitzman's trying to stir the flames on Twitter, saying his "sources" stated that Deaton took part in the discussions and was involved in everything bar the vote. He then said would he really do that if his intentions were to move Mizzou.

Ok whatever Kevin, clueless moron.

Shocker.

IIRC Chip Brown was the first to tweet that Mizzou participated in the discussions, but recused from voting.

Well they got the Big 12 South taken care of now with the additon of TCU. Now onto the North they go with BYU and Louisville then who between Cincinnati and West Virginia.

KK: "Mizzou has an offer from the Big Ten and they are going. Done Deal"

KK: "No one is talking about Mizzou to the SEC! They aren't going anywhere! The Dearmonds are making this up!"

Wrong.

"What it means is that TCU could be out of the Big East before it ever officially joins. According to two college officials, it would be an easy departure for the Horned Frogs, since they would only have to pay a $5 million exit fee and aren’t bound by the 27-month waiting period penalty unless they are Big East members as of July 1."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/in..._tcu_befo.html

Wrong. TCU has never been under consideration for joining the SEC.

I'm just speculating but Bama is probably hesitant to sign away their cross-division rivalry with Tennessee. Florida and Georgia are likely skeptical about having to travel to Mizzou as they are the two schools farthest away. Not sure about LSU.

Awesome.