Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6437356)

Does anyone hope that if the Chiefs won a SB that Hamas and Mecca would leave?

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6437802)

Yep. That's what I was talking about.
And Maybe Dane is right.
But this is all in reference to my statement saying that the tone would be different in person. Like I said. I'm a bartender on Sundays, and not even drunk people "discuss" football topics with each other in such a disrespectful manner, because if they did, they would probably be picking brown glass out of their scalp. Only pussies use a non personal platform to insult other people's opinions.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6437781)

Dude. For crying out loud ... go get some panties that fit. You're scaring the neighbors.

I'm not really merging or combining or confusing the concepts of wins or strides or anything else. Actually, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything ... anyhow ...

Every person you mention is part of the problem. Not part of the solution. Are you Google converting my nice, English posts into Swahili or something? Let me try once again ... try to remain calm ...

1) Leadership is very important in any enterprise. As a person interested in history, you should know this ... the Army figured it out a long time ago.

2) The team was and is bad ... very bad. Again, you cannot turn a team like this around in a brief time. There are problems everywhere and, because football is a team game, those problems affect every other individual player's performance.

3) Pioli and Haley are rookies in their roles. It will take time for them to acclimate, organize, and implement their plans. Rightly or wrongly, it is too early to tell whether or not they are taking us in the best direction.

4) This team was undisciplined. As a fan of the Chiefs, I'm pleased to see Haley bring that needed discipline to the franchise. And, it was sorely needed. It is this kind of foundation that, if Haley is successful, will serve us well in future.

There's much more I could say, but in short (and I don't want to repeat this again), it's far too early to tell whether or not Pioli and Haley are going to win at Kansas City. Their goals are well-stated; they want to build a team that competes year in and year out for the playoffs and the Super Bowl. That means it won't be difficult to tell if they've failed or not. In the meantime, it's just silly to second guess someone who is stirring a giant pile of turds with a stick.

FAX

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6437814)

If your opinions are thought out and researched, why the hell are you so wrong all of the time?

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6437846)

Bow before Fax.

He owns you ALL

Accuse me of following Fax, and throwing "Yeahs"? Damn straight. I share his opinions.
He is truly making observations with his brain, and not his hatred.

And let's just get it straight right now. If Pioli had gotten the horsemen's loverboy Sanchez, they would be all over his balls, because once we declined to take that route, their opinions of him soured, and they have been bashing him ever since. Get over it guys. Sanchez is gone.....and I'm glad. If Cassel doesn't work out we'll have to get someone else, but I'm glad it's not Sanchez.

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6437831)

I guess some people feel that they make themselves appear somehow better by demeaning others. Interestingly (and as Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins says; history bears this out), it actually merely makes them look kind of immature and stupid.

FAX

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6437831)

I think you may be right. I understand the frustration, but I don't understand the anger and the hate. Frankly, it gets in the way of any given topic and the entire shtick has gotten old.

I guess some people feel that they make themselves appear somehow better by demeaning others. Interestingly (and as Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins says; history bears this out), it actually merely makes them look kind of immature and stupid.

FAX

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6437823)

You're about a page behind in this conversation.

I constructed a false binary, placed you into it, and you immediately got defensive. Why you're going back to your initial comments about OTW and Dane is a bit of mystery.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437863)

Demeaning stupid people has nothing to do with propping oneself up. It has everything to do with letting the stupid person know that they are saying dumbass shit.

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6437870)

I
The Four Horsemen smack is original and it's being run by several other posters now. There's a larger point. Either you get it or you don't, but don't blame me for being one of the first posters to either recognize or have stones enough to call it.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437826)

FAX, the following questions

1) Who said anything about leadership? Furthermore, how has Todd Haley demonstrated leadership? Is mother****ing players and flipping off fans leadership just because it's tough? At what point does that mutate to a loss of control?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437826)

2) That's a complete dodge. I said nothing about the team doing a 180. What I'm looking for are signs that the barge is being slowly turned around. I see it from a few players, but from none of the sacred cows of the new regime. How does that inspire confidence?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437826)

3) Where was this "rookie" excuse when people thought we would challenge for .500 based on coaching and Pioli alone last year? Why are the goalposts now being moved?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437826)

4)FAX, other than fat camp, what makes you think that this team is any more disciplined than past teams? On the field they displayed a lot less discipline than past years, and so did the coach, who couldn't even restrain himself from telling a paying customer to **** off.

That's discipline?

Ok.