Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9288451)

The term "the team quit" is a fairly general term and it should be read that way. You can't pin it to an individual or a few.

When a team is not disciplined and mentally prepared it plays soft. This is strictly on coaching and it was my number one objection to promoting RAC to HC. This team managed to win a couple of games this season but it was even a "worse team" than that despite all the players you named. Those players may have not have "quit" in the last game per your definition. But IMO even their level of intensity either dropped or became inconsistent after the missed kick. That's what happens when the realization of hopelessness creeps into men's mind, specially in a collision sport.

So IMO this team did "quit" whether they knew it or not. You could clearly see the deflation of of intensity in most of the players. Less clearly, but still visible among our top players.

And the good part is this team is going to be coached in a more disciplined style, and yes I can't wait to watch the players you named play with hope again.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9287874)

It is just absurd that you can't see the difference in focus and effort between the 2011 and 2012 squad. And that you don't think coaching had everything to do with it. That's a subtle compliment to Haley but it's mostly an indictment of Romeo.

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9288478)

Correct.

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9288451)

The term "the team quit" is a fairly general term and it should be read that way. You can't pin it to an individual or a few.

When a team is not disciplined and mentally prepared it plays soft. This is strictly on coaching and it was my number one objection to promoting RAC to HC. This team managed to win a couple of games this season but it was even a "worse team" than that despite all the players you named. Those players may have not have "quit" in the last game per your definition. But IMO even their level of intensity either dropped or became inconsistent after the missed kick. That's what happens when the realization of hopelessness creeps into men's mind, specially in a collision sport.

So IMO this team did "quit" whether they knew it or not. You could clearly see the deflation of of intensity in most of the players. Less clearly, but still visible among our top players.

And the good part is this team is going to be coached in a more disciplined style, and yes I can't wait to watch the players you named play with hope again.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9288014)

Here's how I'd describe the Romeo era and how bad of a coach he was.

Romeo's entire season resembled Haley's beginning of 2011 season abortion against Detroit and Buffalo. All but a few games. Haley's teams during those 2 games sucked because of poor conditioning. Romeo's sucked because of a culture of a complete lack of accountability or any hint of motivation.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9287345)

Bullshit.

You don't know ****ing dick about football.

Players, especially an entire offense, don't just quit.

You're dumber than Daboll.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9288952)

LMAO sure

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9288984)

JFC. This board's hatred for Haley is unbelievably ridiculous.

The team goes 2-14 after adding Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Eric Winston, and Tony Moeaki, and gets blown out pretty much every game, and there are only a handful of people that realize that Romeo made this team significantly worse with poor coaching?

This isn't even praise for Haley. This is acknowledgement that Romeo was a flat out horrible coach.

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9289000)

No because he was a gigantic wad of cock! If he wouldve of shut up and let Weis go maybe things would be different

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9288984)

JFC. This board's hatred for Haley is unbelievably ridiculous.

The team goes 2-14 after adding Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Eric Winston, and Tony Moeaki, and gets blown out pretty much every game, and there are only a handful of people that realize that Romeo made this team significantly worse with poor coaching?

This isn't even praise for Haley. This is acknowledgement that Romeo was a flat out horrible coach.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9288984)

JFC. This board's hatred for Haley is unbelievably ridiculous.

The team goes 2-14 after adding Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Eric Winston, and Tony Moeaki, and gets blown out pretty much every game, and there are only a handful of people that realize that Romeo made this team significantly worse with poor coaching?

This isn't even praise for Haley. This is acknowledgement that Romeo was a flat out horrible coach.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9289006)

Weis isn't the messiah people make him out to be either

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9288984)

JFC. This board's hatred for Haley is unbelievably ridiculous.

The team goes 2-14 after adding Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Eric Winston, and Tony Moeaki, and gets blown out pretty much every game, and there are only a handful of people that realize that Romeo made this team significantly worse with poor coaching?

This isn't even praise for Haley. This is acknowledgement that Romeo was a flat out horrible coach.