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pugsnotdrugs19 01-31-2025 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17946276)
I kind of disagree. They ended up going with WR as their 1st pick, but that doesn't mean Worthy was the guy they wanted. If their evaluations say that Worthy was going to go high, but he was likely a bust, then it could have been a choice to try to screw the Chiefs. It didn't work out that way, but you hire your staff to give you the analyses that allow you to make such decisions. If the staff ****ed it up, then deal with your staff.

Furthermore, they did get additional draft capital by trading down twice. If their analysis was that they could get a comparable or better WR by trading down, then the draft capital would be worth it. Finally, if everyone else is refusing to trade with the Chiefs, then it presents the opportunity to take advantage of the Chiefs by asking for more draft capital in return than they might have been able to get from anyone else in such a trade.
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17946284)
They traded out of the Worthy spot and took Coleman.

You can say it all you want but if they really had their draft board laid out that way, they just aren't very good at college scouting.
It just doesn't matter. I don't care that I get an extra sixth rounder. I am not setting myself up to potentially have what happened last Sunday occur any year, let alone the very next season.

Now, had we offered a top 100 pick? Different story. But for what Buffalo got, it was dumb to let KC get their player.

RedinTexas 01-31-2025 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17946284)
They traded out of the Worthy spot and took Coleman.

You can say it all you want but if they really had their draft board laid out that way, they just aren't very good at college scouting.
Yes, exactly. It seems pretty clear that they made some mistakes in the analysis, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't trade with the Chiefs. It means they should improve their staff analysis. If their analysis had been better, they would have placed a higher value on Worthy.

jerryaldini 01-31-2025 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17946250)
diqy (Einstein) so quick to suck off Allen and blame everyone/everything else. LMAO


...and ****, that site is a disaster of ads.
Haha I didn't know he was Einstein. He's just echoing the sports media. Here's a good bit by Nick on the media's unwillingness to criticize the play of the Non-Mahomes QBs.

https://youtu.be/Yq1ydIDOWuk?si=Jd3fZVs-K7i0f6kC

tredadda 01-31-2025 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17946051)
Nobody felt sorry for us after the Andrew Luck wildcard game or the Steelers bullshit field goal game or any of the shitty ass playoff losses we had before then.

I live in Vikings country. They didn't lose 4 straight, but they lost 4 SBs. Haven't been back to one in awhile. Oh, and they're a team gives false hope WAY more often than the Bills. How do you think they feel?

How about the never-will franchises like the Cardinals or Lions, which are two historic teams with abysmal histories and win percentages?

The Bills aren't the only franchise with trauma, and I'm tired of them being the only team that gets sympathy. Oh, because it's exhausting and lame if you feel sympathy for everybody who deserves it? Cool, then maybe nobody should get it?

Awesome. **** the Bills.

Also, **** Josh Allen. Let me say it again. **** Josh Allen. We're villains so take delight in the suffering of the innocent. **** him and his whiney bitch loser white knights in the media.
Remember when Buffalo knocked Montana out of the game in the AFCCG?

https://i.imgflip.com/2/cxiuu.jpg

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2025 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17946291)
It just doesn't matter. I don't care that I get an extra sixth rounder. I am not setting myself up to potentially have what happened last Sunday occur any year, let alone the very next season.

Now, had we offered a top 100 pick? Different story. But for what Buffalo got, it was dumb to let KC get their player.
Seriously, wasn't it just a couple of pick swaps? Bills turned 133 and 248 into 95 and 221. Especially egregious since what Worthy is elite at the Bills offense completely lacks.

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2025 10:59 AM
Trading the Jefferson pick for Stefon Diggs

Drafting Elam after the Chiefs stole McDuffie

Kincaid over LaPorta

Coleman over Worthy, Leggete, or McConkey.

The plethora of bad players taken in the second. Cook is the only one worth a damn.

Change one or two of those and history just might be different.

Bowser 01-31-2025 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17946250)
diqy (Einstein) so quick to suck off Allen and blame everyone/everything else. LMAO


...and ****, that site is a disaster of ads.
"How was Allen supposed to know where the blitz was coming from?"

Now you see you difference between the Chiefs and the Bills; specifically, the difference between Allen and Mahomes.

DiqLix, LMAO

Bearcat 01-31-2025 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17946323)
"How was Allen supposed to know where the blitz was coming from?"

Now you see you difference between the Chiefs and the Bills; specifically, the difference between Allen and Mahomes.

DiqLix, LMAO
Black Magic, the refs must have told him!

hE cAn'T rEaD tHe DeFenSe, ToO! /diqlix, probably


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RedinTexas 01-31-2025 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17946319)
Trading the Jefferson pick for Stefon Diggs

Drafting Elam after the Chiefs stole McDuffie

Kincaid over LaPorta

Coleman over Worthy, Leggete, or McConkey.

The plethora of bad players taken in the second. Cook is the only one worth a damn.

Change one or two of those and history just might be different.
Yep. Overwhelming evidence of failure in the front office.

Dartgod 01-31-2025 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17946318)
Seriously, wasn't it just a couple of pick swaps? Bills turned 133 and 248 into 95 and 221. Especially egregious since what Worthy is elite at the Bills offense completely lacks.
I was listening to one of the local sports talk stations after the AFCCG, and they were talking to some Buffalo radio guy about that trade. He was basically saying that the Bills were behind the Chiefs talent-wise and even if the trade was even, it still left them trailing us and it should have never been made. He suggested that Beane just hang up immediately if we ever call again.

RealSNR 01-31-2025 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17946319)
Trading the Jefferson pick for Stefon Diggs

Drafting Elam after the Chiefs stole McDuffie

Kincaid over LaPorta

Coleman over Worthy, Leggete, or McConkey.

The plethora of bad players taken in the second. Cook is the only one worth a damn.

Change one or two of those and history just might be different.

Not to mention the cringey Von Miller deal. Giving a guy who’s damn near ready to sign up for AARP a 5 year deal?

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2025 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17946358)
Not to mention the cringey Von Miller deal. Giving a guy who’s damn near ready to sign up for AARP a 5 year deal?
Yeah, that post was more draft focused. Their free agent acquisitions aren't much to write home about either. They've absolutely got some talent on that roster besides Allen but their drafting the past couple of years has been subpar at best and what's really bad for them is they're going to have to deal with the repercussions of that for years still.

Pepe Silvia 01-31-2025 12:30 PM
How are Bills fans still alive to post?

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-31-2025 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17946115)
The only reason people are particularly sympathetic to the Bills right now is because of Chiefs fatigue. People are rooting against the Chiefs and the Bills have been on the other side so often, and they've been really good. The Bills are just the closest thing to latch onto while they're flailing around grasping for "anyone other than the Chiefs."
I think the reason they're sympathetic to the Bills is because of Josh.

He's a great QB and is very fun to watch when he's on his game, and their organization is right up there with the most well run organizations in the league. Traditional NFL wisdom would tell you if you have the right QB and right team eventually they'll win a ring.

But Mahomes and the Chiefs are the one thing breaking all of that NFL wisdom. Teams don't stay on top for this long, they don't go 3 straight Super Bowls. They don't beat teams like the Bills 4 straight times in the playoffs. Even Brady eventually lost to Manning as well as other QBs. Mahomes just doesn't. Mahomes and the Chiefs are the anomaly in NFL history.

And NFL fans get sick of it when one team is better than everyone else and wins all the time, it's no different than any of the other dynasties in NFL history.

RedinTexas 01-31-2025 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 17946357)
I was listening to one of the local sports talk stations after the AFCCG, and they were talking to some Buffalo radio guy about that trade. He was basically saying that the Bills were behind the Chiefs talent-wise and even if the trade was even, it still left them trailing us and it should have never been made. He suggested that Beane just hang up immediately if we ever call again.
GMs come and go and GMs have long memories. If you hang up on someone calling to entertain a trade, that GM will remember on the day you call him wanting a trade. It doesn't mean you have to make a deal with the guy, but why burn bridges in a field where you may need that bridge yourself? There will come a day when the Bills want to made a draft trade and Beane knows that he can call up Veach and ask Veach to play ball. Veach will be more likely to do so with the knowledge that Beane has played ball with him and is likely to do so in the future.


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