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Amnorix 03-14-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13468297)
A team could theoretically negotiate with the team that has the player's rights to remove the tender.

Oh absolutely. Patriots negotiated a trade for, errr, Welker I think it was. With the Dolphins. Not sure it was him, but you're definiteyl right that that can be done.

ToxSocks 03-14-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13468179)
Give me Jaire Alexander in the draft and I don't care if we sign another CB or not. That kid is going to be a star.

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That's funny. I was watching him for the first time last night thinking the same thing.

raybec 4 03-14-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468369)
I think we need our backup to have a decently strong arm, for obvious reasons. It has to be at least average I think.

Some guys with starting experience who could be pretty cheap:
EJ Manuel
Blaine Gabbert
Chad Henne

milkman 03-14-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468369)
I think we need our backup to have a decently strong arm, for obvious reasons. It has to be at least average I think.

You mean someone like Chase Daniel?

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13468391)
You mean someone like Chase Daniel?

Daniel got more money than I expected. $5M per was too rich for us right now I’d say.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 10:32 AM

Gabbert or Barkley would be fine with me.

RunKC 03-14-2018 10:33 AM

Beau Allen to TB. DL really starting to thin out.

We need a NT. Wouldn’t be mad if Bennie Logan is brought back at a reasonable price.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13468387)
That's funny. I was watching him for the first time last night thinking the same thing.

I fully expect them to go CB or S in the 2nd round and I wouldn't be surprised if they traded up to get one.

milkman 03-14-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468393)
Daniel got more money than I expected. $5M per was too rich for us right now I’d say.

You're missing the point.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13468404)
You're missing the point.

Then what was the point?

milkman 03-14-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468406)
Then what was the point?

Tell me about Daniel's cannon.

staylor26 03-14-2018 10:35 AM

I’m all for trading up to get Jaire Alexander, Isaiah Oliver, Carlton Davis, Mike Hughes, Taven Bryan, or Justin Reid.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13468410)
I’m all for trading up to get Jaire Alexander, Isaiah Oliver, Carlton Davis, Mike Hughes, Taven Bryan, or Justin Reid.

Me too depending on who is there. I'm going to watch Jaire tonight.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13468409)
Tell me about Daniel's cannon.

He doesn’t have one, I know. And once we signed Watkins, my interest in signing him dried up rather fast.

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13468410)
I’m all for trading up to get Jaire Alexander, Isaiah Oliver, Carlton Davis, Mike Hughes, Taven Bryan, or Justin Reid.

That's not happening without parting away with 2019 first rounder. Veach isn't going to do that.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:47 AM

The Chiefs are going to see more zone defenses than any other team in the NFL this year. There just aren’t many, if any teams that can even try to man up their personnel from down to down.

We’re going to see A TON of deep balls. It’s already a known fact that a cover 4 shell means Tyreek Hill is hitting his head on the goal post for six half of the time. A cover 2 shell means Mahomes uses his arm to fit the ball in the C2 holes on each sideline, or he simply tosses it over the ILBs head to Kelce who has a ton of room because the safeties have to get over Watkins and Hill. Cover 3 presents a ton of options.

I can see bringing Bray back for this reason. He has the arm to make the throws (but a nickel brain). I wouldn’t want him as the primary backup, but he’s a fine enough 3.

Bewbies 03-14-2018 10:47 AM

You know who would be a great backup QB?

Case Keenum.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:51 AM

I don’t know where the price will be, but I still wouldn’t mind Tre Boston.

If you nab him, you can draft DL and corner early without worrying about much else.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 10:55 AM

Morgan Burnett is the safety I see KC getting.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13468465)
Morgan Burnett is the safety I see KC getting.

Boston is 25, which fits more of what Veach has been doing so far. But I like Burnett.

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13468465)
Morgan Burnett is the safety I see KC getting.

Getting close to 30 and will command a larger deal. I don't see it, or a FA FS.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468470)
Boston is 25, which fits more of what Veach has been doing so far. But I like Burnett.

Burnett is older but is very versatile and fits what Sutton likes to do with his safeties.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 11:01 AM

I could definitely see Veach packaging a couple picks to move up in round 2 if there's a guy he likes. It'd only be a few guys I'd bet but I wouldn't rule it out. Though I do like staying at 54 and keeping next year's 2 2s.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13468484)
I could definitely see Veach packaging a couple picks to move up in round 2 if there's a guy he likes. It'd only be a few guys I'd bet but I wouldn't rule it out. Though I do like staying at 54 and keeping next year's 2 2s.

Maybe he'll package up the 7's or their 6th but I'd be surprised if he packaged up either of the 3's or 4's because there will be talented players on the board at that time.

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 11:03 AM

They have 5 choices from the 2 to the 4th round. I think they stay where they're at and pick away. No reason they can't land at least 2-3 starters with those picks.

I'm still feeling that if the Chiefs make another bigger FA move, it'll be for DRC.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 11:06 AM

I know Settle had a bad combine, but the tape doesn’t lie. He’s still a good option in my book, especially if we don’t sign a DT.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468494)
I know Settle had a bad combine, but the tape doesn’t lie. He’s still a good option in my book, especially if we don’t sign a DT.

You watching tape or highlight films?

Maybe in round 3.

BJ Hill or Hand at NT before Settle....

staylor26 03-14-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13468439)
That's not happening without parting away with 2019 first rounder. Veach isn't going to do that.

I disagree. I think at least one of those guys will get in the range where we can use one of our 2109 2nd’s.

staylor26 03-14-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13468500)
You watching tape or highlight films?

Maybe in round 3.

BJ Hill or Hand at NT before Settle....

Well you clearly aren’t watching tape

royr17 03-14-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13468398)
Beau Allen to TB. DL really starting to thin out.

We need a NT. Wouldn’t be mad if Bennie Logan is brought back at a reasonable price.

I hope we bring back Poe.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13468505)
Well you clearly aren’t watching tape

Hint: Count how many times Settle is on the ground during any given game. Yes he has short area explosion and is a gap penetrator. Stack and shed though? Short-armed and not great lateral agility.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13468501)
I disagree. I think at least one of those guys will get in the range where we can use one of our 2109 2nd’s.

Man, I kinda hope not. I'd rather sit tight and take talented players at each spot as opposed to giving up a 2nd rounder next year when they don't have a 1st rounder this year.

IMO, this year should be foundational, with next year the opportunity to really plug in some serious talent.

KChiefs1 03-14-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13468123)
Someone paid Terrance Mitchell and it wasn't minimum wage at a McDonalds?

Color me shocked.



That’s not as shocking as seeing Phillip Gaines get paid.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-14-2018 11:19 AM

Ravens are releasing WR Jeremy Maclin

Stinger 03-14-2018 11:20 AM

Jeremy Maclin is being let go from the Ravens

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Sassy Squatch 03-14-2018 11:26 AM

Won't be a bit surprised if Maclin is back.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 11:26 AM

Honey Badger cut. KC has the need

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13468501)
I disagree. I think at least one of those guys will get in the range where we can use one of our 2109 2nd’s.

I think we'd need to land within the first 5 slots to land a guy that's capable of being a #1 corner and it would take more than a future 2nd to go that far up.

royr17 03-14-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 13468536)
Jeremy Maclin is being let go from the Ravens

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Bring him back as a slot receiver

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 13468585)
Bring him back as a slot receiver

Good grief, no.

He done.

thabear04 03-14-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13468575)
Honey Badger cut. KC has the need

The #AZCardinals are releasing versatile DB Tyrann Mathieu, source said. They tried to redo his deal but it wasn’t to be. Keep an eye on the #Giants and his former defensive coordinator.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13468591)
Good grief, no.

He done.

Exactly. We have Conley coming back and Robinson also Chesson.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2018 11:32 AM

Peppers back to Carolina. 11,sacks last year in 50 percent of snaps. Shows just how big of a joke Hali was...

SAUTO 03-14-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13468529)
That’s not as shocking as seeing Phillip Gaines get paid.

Where?

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2018 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 13468585)
Bring him back as a slot receiver

Rich Scanlon

staylor26 03-14-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13468526)
Man, I kinda hope not. I'd rather sit tight and take talented players at each spot as opposed to giving up a 2nd rounder next year when they don't have a 1st rounder this year.

IMO, this year should be foundational, with next year the opportunity to really plug in some serious talent.

I’d prefer to sit tight, but if we don’t sign a starting corner we should definitely consider it because none of those guys are making it to 54.

St. Patty's Fire 03-14-2018 11:34 AM

Bears gave chase daniel 7M guaranteed

Ay lmao

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnDONsey (Post 13468609)
Bears gave chase daniel 7M guaranteed

Ay lmao

Keenum got 18 million and he isn't any better. Denver is that dumb.

ToxSocks 03-14-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13468529)
That’s not as shocking as seeing Phillip Gaines get paid.

Paid by who? and how much? I dont see that anywhere.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 11:39 AM

Haven't heard shit about Junior Galette, Poe or Richardson yet.

St. Patty's Fire 03-14-2018 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13468621)
Keenum got 18 million and he isn't any better. Denver is that dumb.

Didn't you hear? According to QJ, Keenum is the 16th best QB in the league, so it's a good deal for the Donks

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 11:40 AM

Mathieu as a slot corner at the right price could work.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13468631)
Mathieu as a slot corner at the right price could work.

He was average last year, but if you think he's signing for "the right price" you are nuts. He wants a bigger deal than he had. No thanks.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 12:03 PM

Joe Thomas retires.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2018 12:11 PM

Sounds like Veach is holding a press conference at 5:30.

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 12:14 PM

Lets trade all our picks and sign all the brokedicks

SAUTO 03-14-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13468699)
Sounds like Veach is holding a press conference at 5:30.

He's got a lot to go over already. That we know about.


Hoping we get a surprise. Doubt it

BossChief 03-14-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13468635)
He was average last year, but if you think he's signing for "the right price" you are nuts. He wants a bigger deal than he had. No thanks.

He tried to negotiate a reduced salary to stay in Arizona.

This is a LOADED Cb/s draft...I’m sure he can be had for a somewhat reasonable price tag.

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 12:21 PM

No ****ing thanks

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13468699)
Sounds like Veach is holding a press conference at 5:30.

Bet they have Sammy and Hitchens there.

Mecca 03-14-2018 12:26 PM

Can Bill Polian be fired by ESPN already?

The mother****er does nothing but express antiquated senile opinions that make me wanwt to choke him.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 12:27 PM

CB Patrick Robinson to NO on a 4-year deal.

Already 31 years old in September.

Kiimo 03-14-2018 12:29 PM

Please let go of Honey Badger.



Connor Hughes

@Connor_J_Hughes

Some stats:

From 2016-2017, Mathieu played 612 coverage snaps in the slot, and was targeted 92 times. Allowed 70 catches, 742 yards, 4 TDs & 2 INTs. 104.5 QB rating, per PFF.

Strongside 03-14-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13468726)
Please let go of Honey Badger.



Connor Hughes

@Connor_J_Hughes

Some stats:

From 2016-2017, Mathieu played 612 coverage snaps in the slot, and was targeted 92 times. Allowed 70 catches, 742 yards, 4 TDs & 2 INTs. 104.5 QB rating, per PFF.

Oh, boy. That's ****ing horrid. I change my stance to a solid no thanks.

It's like he saw Terrance Mitchell and was like, hold my beer.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2018 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13468726)
Please let go of Honey Badger.



Connor Hughes

@Connor_J_Hughes

Some stats:

From 2016-2017, Mathieu played 612 coverage snaps in the slot, and was targeted 92 times. Allowed 70 catches, 742 yards, 4 TDs & 2 INTs. 104.5 QB rating, per PFF.

Jesus.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13468726)
Please let go of Honey Badger.



Connor Hughes

@Connor_J_Hughes

Some stats:

From 2016-2017, Mathieu played 612 coverage snaps in the slot, and was targeted 92 times. Allowed 70 catches, 742 yards, 4 TDs & 2 INTs. 104.5 QB rating, per PFF.

Wow. Woof. **** that

kysirsoze 03-14-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468448)
The Chiefs are going to see more zone defenses than any other team in the NFL this year. There just aren’t many, if any teams that can even try to man up their personnel from down to down.

We’re going to see A TON of deep balls. It’s already a known fact that a cover 4 shell means Tyreek Hill is hitting his head on the goal post for six half of the time. A cover 2 shell means Mahomes uses his arm to fit the ball in the C2 holes on each sideline, or he simply tosses it over the ILBs head to Kelce who has a ton of room because the safeties have to get over Watkins and Hill. Cover 3 presents a ton of options.

I can see bringing Bray back for this reason. He has the arm to make the throws (but a nickel brain). I wouldn’t want him as the primary backup, but he’s a fine enough 3.

Man I still wish we would sign Kaepernick. Trading Peters calmed down the anthem pearl clutchers, his name has dropped out of the media cycle so a little less heat, could probably be had for an enormous discount and would be one of the best backup QBs in the league.

Mecca 03-14-2018 12:32 PM

Yea a guy that is 5'9 is gonna struggle with the bigger WR's of today, his ACL injury hurt his speed which without I'm not sure what he has.

If you sign him you're thinking 2 years removed from that injury maybe some of his speed returns and he can become a dynamic ballhawk again.

BryanBusby 03-14-2018 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13468726)
Please let go of Honey Badger.



Connor Hughes

@Connor_J_Hughes

Some stats:

From 2016-2017, Mathieu played 612 coverage snaps in the slot, and was targeted 92 times. Allowed 70 catches, 742 yards, 4 TDs & 2 INTs. 104.5 QB rating, per PFF.

But do you know what his name is??? /cp

BossChief 03-14-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13468737)
Yea a guy that is 5'9 is gonna struggle with the bigger WR's of today, his ACL injury hurt his speed which without I'm not sure what he has.

If you sign him you're thinking 2 years removed from that injury maybe some of his speed returns and he can become a dynamic ballhawk again.

Bingo

Frazod 03-14-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13468731)
Oh, boy. That's ****ing horrid. I change my stance to a solid no thanks.

It's like he saw Terrance Mitchell and was like, hold my beer.

LMAO

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13468731)
Oh, boy. That's ****ing horrid. I change my stance to a solid no thanks.

It's like he saw Terrance Mitchell and was like, hold my beer.

John Dorsey just gave him $12 million. ROFL

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 12:42 PM

According to Spotrac, after the Hitchens deal we have $18.4M to spend (which includes the draft pool).

Take Watkins' cap number, Sherman's, and Jenkins'... there isn't going to be much left to work with at all.

ToxSocks 03-14-2018 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468763)
According to Spotrac, after the Hitchens deal we have $18.4M to spend (which includes the draft pool).

Take Watkins' cap number, Sherman's, and Jenkins'... there isn't going to be much left to work with at all.

It was reported in another thread that his cap hit this year is only $3.6M. So some discrepancy going on here.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13468766)
It was reported in another thread that his cap hit this year is only $3.6M. So some discrepancy going on here.

Spotrac has it down for $3.6M, so that's correct.

aturnis 03-14-2018 12:49 PM

So David Irving got tendered as a second rounder, is there any way we could send them the 2019 second rounder we got from Washington?

Irving is only 24, and talented, so he fits the bill.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2018 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468763)
According to Spotrac, after the Hitchens deal we have $18.4M to spend (which includes the draft pool).

Take Watkins' cap number, Sherman's, and Jenkins'... there isn't going to be much left to work with at all.

Sherman and Jenkins are around 2 million each, so 14 million without knowing Watkins

chiefforlife 03-14-2018 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13468775)
So David Irving got tendered as a second rounder, is there any way we could send them the 2019 second rounder we got from Washington?

Irving is only 24, and talented, so he fits the bill.

We got a third from Washington this year, a second from the Rams in 2019.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13468779)
Sherman and Jenkins are around 2 million each, so 14 million without knowing Watkins

And they're going to want some extra cash left.

Knowing this, we're done I bet.

Warpaint69 03-14-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13468775)
So David Irving got tendered as a second rounder, is there any way we could send them the 2019 second rounder we got from Washington?

Irving is only 24, and talented, so he fits the bill.

Dorsey tried stashing him on the practice squad, dumb move on his part. Could’ve had Irving and Jones at DE.


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