No, but they certainly tell a part of the story. They're far from worthless.

You think the player is going to look different just because you're watching it from an all-22 angle or something?

You think we can't pick up on a sense of speed, acceleration, suddenness, size, playstyle, and a number of other established patterns through YouTube clips? That somehow that's going to look different if viewed at a different angle?

All-22 etc is great for watching schemes, watching routes develop downfield etc. Really breaking down the how/why a receiver is/isn't getting open. But it's not like we can't glean other information from basic broadcast cut ups.

What i will say though is you gotta watch the right shit. 3 Minute highlight videos aint it.

But you can learn a lot about a player by watching the full highlights, the 25+ Minute videos, along with any of the "VS" stuff you can find, i.e "Patrick Mahomes VS" will lead you to full game clips etc. And Senior Bowl drills are great too if that player has them.

CEH is a bust. I think he was too marginal athletically to overcome the injuries. I don't think there's anything controversial about that opinion.

If you say so.

He's a disappointment for sure, mainly because of injuries. But a guy who's career average is 4.4 YPC and nearly 6 TDs a season even with all the time missed is hardly a bust. He just didn't live up to where he was drafted.

Veach seems pretty excited about him for 2023, so I guess you know more than Veach.

LMAO

We'll see what shakes out. Veach isn't going to shit talk a player that's currently on the team. That's just common sense.

You can get a good read on a lot of players just watching their games on YouTube.

Safety is the position where All 22 is necessary because you can't judge their instincts without the larger view.

Sure. I'm in agreement

Save for SR bowl drills. Those don't tell you shit, unless you knwo what the actual drill is trying to emphasize

The DB vs WR Senior Bowl drills tell you quite a bit actually. You get to see both the DB and the WR up close in isolated instances. It's a great way to get a feel for a player's suddenness and change of direction.

You could watch Cornell Powel's senior bowl highlights and see right away that he lacked a suddenness to his game that his peers had in spades.

There are highlights, then there are fulll games or cut-ups, then there's all-22.

They all hold some value, just to varying degrees, in terms of scouting.

Youre the one with a lack of suddenness

The CEH hate throughout the fanbase is way over the top. I'm not a big fan myself, but he clearly has some value, especially as a backup. Obviously they shouldn't have taken him in the 1st round but that doesn't mean he's worthless.

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I agree. It’s just Andy’s offensive system. It’s extremely complicated even for smart players.

I hope they can just mark out a defined role for Rice this year and stick to it. He’s not gonna get it all this year, but shit man get him some work. Need the guy to make a difference this year.

He took Hardman because of the Tyreek situation... Hell, if it weren't for Tyreek's situation, we most likely wouldn't have drafted a receiver in the 2nd, and we didn't really need a WR when we picked CEH and would have most likely been another position.

I think it's completely up to Rice.

If he gets to OTA's, and then Camp, and just balls out the Chiefs will have no choice but to play him.

The Chiefs are a team that plays their best guys. It's up to Rice to force his way onto the field.

Im not a believer in the "Reid doesn't play rookies" and so forth and so forth.

I don't think he is saying you can't have an opinion but that if you do it should be informed and generally speaking watching youtube highlights of a players college performance is a pretty shallow indicator of talent/character. Elsewise anyone could be a pro scout. I think it is important to understand there are people with more indepth knowledge of a player. It is okay to have an opinion but when a SME tells you that your opinion isn't valid for XYZ you should probably re-evaluate. Also, it's okay to agree to disagree.