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ToxSocks 07-30-2024 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17608051)
Strength is a neural response response. Although more muscle mass helps strength it is your nervous system being able to more efficiently fire the muscle to do the work requested of it.

Yup. Has to be all my years of jerk-off training then.

Dunerdr 07-30-2024 02:20 PM

Hamstring strength and stretches? When I'm short on time I'll skip either squats or lunges in favor of a seated squat press style machine. When I do I have a spot on my Hammy's about midway that's just irritated. Just on my right leg. I don't get it but I don't like it.

Bearcat 07-30-2024 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17608060)
Yup. Has to be all my years of jerk-off training then.

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ToxSocks 07-30-2024 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17608067)
Hamstring strength and stretches? When I'm short on time I'll skip either squats or lunges in favor of a seated squat press style machine. When I do I have a spot on my Hammy's about midway that's just irritated. Just on my right leg. I don't get it but I don't like it.

Dude ive been doing my leg day at the gym with the assorted press, raise and butterfly machines.

The other day though, i did leg day at home with just body weight training.

Calf raises, Wall Squats, lunges, squats, leg lifts etc.

**** me, im still sore. Those calf raises have my calves so sore that im walking funny. For days now....

I did 3 sets of 50 in 3 different toe directions. So what, 450 raises in total? Normal forward facing toes, pigeon toed and outward. I varied the speed too.

Marcellus 07-30-2024 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17608034)
my left arm is slightly weaker but also slightly bigger. go figure

I assume you are right handed so you left arm gets more benefit from the workouts than your right arm.

Dunerdr 07-30-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17608067)
Hamstring strength and stretches? When I'm short on time I'll skip either squats or lunges in favor of a seated squat press style machine. When I do I have a spot on my Hammy's about midway that's just irritated. Just on my right leg. I don't get it but I don't like it.

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17608086)
Dude ive been doing my leg day at the gym with the assorted press, raise and butterfly machines.

The other day though, i did leg day at home with just body weight training.

Calf raises, Wall Squats, lunges, squats, leg lifts etc.

**** me, im still sore. Those calf raises have my calves so sore that im walking funny. For days now....

I did 3 sets of 50 in 3 different toe directions. So what, 450 raises in total? Normal forward facing toes, pigeon toed and outward. I varied the speed too.

I did a similar thing for plantar fasciitis recovery. They ****ing suck! What helps is do calf stretches against the wall in the straight/toe in/toe out then thigh on the wall/ foot flat on the floor extreme stretch. I do a minute each way.

el borracho 07-30-2024 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17607851)
Blender and water? Sounds kind of nasty but I like to eat egg whites.

No blender, no water- just pour out of the carton into a glass and strain out the floaters with a fork.

Bob Evans pasteurized egg whites

penguinz 07-30-2024 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17608067)
Hamstring strength and stretches? When I'm short on time I'll skip either squats or lunges in favor of a seated squat press style machine. When I do I have a spot on my Hammy's about midway that's just irritated. Just on my right leg. I don't get it but I don't like it.

The hamstring activation on a squat is not as much as you think it is.

Best thing for hammys are curls, stiff legged deadlifts GHR's and nordics.

BWillie 07-30-2024 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17608039)
If you had to choose either cardio or weight training then weight training would actually be better for longevity.

That really surprises me. I used to lift all the time and felt terribly unhealthy. Didn't really seem to do anything to my resting heartbeat and when I would go to try to run it wouldn't help me run any farther. I didn't really feel as good mentally either after I lift compared to after I run.

I was big into lifting when I was younger up but that really only helped me look good. I don't even care about looking good now. Just living longer. When I lift I eat alot of protein and food to try to build muscle and tax my organs.

What info can you advise to change my mind? My weight is not an issue at all. Id actually rather weigh 200 than 170 myself but it is what it is. I just want my heart to be healthy and to lower my cholesterol. My blood pressure has always been perfect though. I am naturally ectomorphic so I am a bit worried Ill lose too much weight by running. Im already down to 179 from 188.

penguinz 07-30-2024 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17608201)
That really surprises me. I used to lift all the time and felt terribly unhealthy. Didn't really seem to do anything to my resting heartbeat and when I would go to try to run it wouldn't help me run any farther. I didn't really feel as good mentally either after I lift compared to after I run.

Runners high is a legit phenomenon. As far as what you experienced lifting its hard to say why you felt what you felt without knowing the workouts performed and how you actually workout and eat.
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I was big into lifting when I was younger up but that really only helped me look good. I don't even care about looking good now. Just living longer. When I lift I eat alot of protein and food to try to build muscle and tax my organs.
Protein consumption should be the same wether lifting or not. 1.5-2 grams per lb of bodyweight. If bulking then 1.5-2 grams per lb of what you want to weigh.
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What info can you advise to change my mind? My weight is not an issue at all. Id actually rather weigh 200 than 170 myself but it is what it is. I just want my heart to be healthy and to lower my cholesterol. My blood pressure has always been perfect though.
Cholesterol is mostly genetic. Next factor after genetics is hormones.

My diet is 85% beef and rice. I consume about 2lbs of red meat per day. My bloods from just a couple of weeks ago my cholesterol was 168 and triglycerides only 72.

No cardio other than a 30 minute walk once or twice a day. Just a normal speed walk.

You might try out alternate types of strength training if you just don't enjoy the standard body building hypertrophy type of lifting.

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I am naturally ectomorphic so I am a bit worried Ill lose too much weight by running. Im already down to 179 from 188.
Add more long chain carbs into diet. Something as easy as a cup of rice with one of your high protein meals. Carbs are how you control weight gain/loss in food choices.

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Spott 07-30-2024 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17608137)
I did a similar thing for plantar fasciitis recovery. They ****ing suck! What helps is do calf stretches against the wall in the straight/toe in/toe out then thigh on the wall/ foot flat on the floor extreme stretch. I do a minute each way.

I had a problem like that for little while. My heel would be sore as hell when I woke up and it would take some walking around to get my Achilles loosened up. It felt fine when I ran but would tighten up like nuts when I slept. I found a small brace on Amazon that was made specifically for plantar fasciitis that you could wear while you slept. It was a little annoying to wear at night, but it fixed that shit in about a week and I never had trouble with it again.

Dunerdr 07-30-2024 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 17608522)
I had a problem like that for little while. My heel would be sore as hell when I woke up and it would take some walking around to get my Achilles loosened up. It felt fine when I ran but would tighten up like nuts when I slept. I found a small brace on Amazon that was made specifically for plantar fasciitis that you could wear while you slept. It was a little annoying to wear at night, but it fixed that shit in about a week and I never had trouble with it again.

Yeah I tried a few braces, 20 insoles and countless exercises. I joined a ton of fb pages looking for solutions. Podiatrist gave me some insoles with minimal relief. Then one day I saw a guy talking about 2 minute stretches for something different and that long active stretches signal to the brain that this muscle needs more length permanently not just stretching. Not sure if there’s any science but 60 days of stretching at 10am (after a decent warm up walking at work) and it’s 99% gone. I’m even getting back to running. Easing in doing a 1/2 mile, walk 1/10, stretch, run 3/10, stretch then finish up with 2/10. Getting a total mile but keeping my calves looser.

The downside is only “grandpa shoes” are comfortable lol. ASICS, new balance and crocs light rides are my apple a day.

lewdog 07-31-2024 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17608034)
my left arm is slightly weaker but also slightly bigger. go figure

Same for me and I am right handed. I don't get it after all these years of working out too.

My left pec has better shape than my right too.

Dunerdr 08-08-2024 07:39 PM

Figured out part of my hammy issue. I do GHR on a 45* rack or whatever you want to call it. I come up with 15s or 20s and do 10 back flys put the weight down and do 10 ghr. I’ve found myself cheating letting my toes widen out. When I keep them straight it’s activating my hammy where it’s weak. When I cheat it’s outside on my leg.


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