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Mr. Plow 10-24-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8044315)
What a bunch of bullshit. Porn and fireworks are awesome, and you know it. This is especially true when used in conjunction.

LMAO

Point conceded.

eazyb81 10-24-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8044306)
I have no idea about the academics of this move, but really - academics have as much to do with any of this as basketball does.

I wouldn't agree with that. I think each conference has different goals for expansion. Academic perception is definitely a major consideration due to the indirect impact on other conference members through research funding and prestige, but that alone is not enough to get someone like Tulane or Rice a major conference spot.

Football, TV draw (either national following or strong local markets), and academics are the main focus points and each conference ranks them differently based on their own situation. Big 12 is trying to survive and maintain its TV contracts so football is the main priority; WVU is a great fit. Big Ten wanted national following and football tradition; Nebraska is a great fit. SEC wanted major TV markets, very good academics to help the league's perception, and solid all-around athletics; A&M and Mizzou are great fits.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-24-2011 08:45 AM

where will we get our walnut bowls? oh the humanity!

eazyb81 10-24-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8044311)
So KSU basketball would face Huggins once to twice a year.... Interesting

Is there bad blood between KSU and Huggins? I thought most KSU fans had no problem with him since he helped turnaround the program and gave them Frank Martin.

buddha 10-24-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8044306)
I have no idea about the academics of this move, but really - academics have as much to do with any of this as basketball does.

Of course you don't. Your posts make that point for you. Academics have never been too high on your radar, Plow. :shake:

The quicker the Big 12 can get back to 12 the better. It doesn't matter who they bring in. They are all just place holders until Texas can get Bucklevision profitable, and then they'll decide the next move.

And speaking of host organisms gladly submitting themselves to Texas, nice job by the Beakers to sell their souls to the LHN. That was really helpful...to Texas, not to the conference.

Mr. Plow 10-24-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8044337)
Of course you don't. Your posts make that point for you. Academics have never been too high on your radar, Plow. :shake:

The quicker the Big 12 can get back to 12 the better. It doesn't matter who they bring in. They are all just place holders until Texas can get Bucklevision profitable, and then they'll decide the next move.

And speaking of host organisms gladly submitting themselves to Texas, nice job by the Beakers to sell their souls to the LHN. That was really helpful...to Texas, not to the conference.


lol. Who are you?

Raiderhater 10-24-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8044333)
Is there bad blood between KSU and Huggins? I thought most KSU fans had no problem with him since he helped turnaround the program and gave them Frank Martin.

When he needed a fresh start and no one would give it to him but KSU, he bolted after only one year.

I think were better off with Martin, but that was still shitty.

Mr. Plow 10-24-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8044325)
I wouldn't agree with that. I think each conference has different goals for expansion. Academic perception is definitely a major consideration due to the indirect impact on other conference members through research funding and prestige, but that alone is not enough to get someone like Tulane or Rice a major conference spot.

Football, TV draw (either national following or strong local markets), and academics are the main focus points and each conference ranks them differently based on their own situation. Big 12 is trying to survive and maintain its TV contracts so football is the main priority; WVU is a great fit. Big Ten wanted national following and football tradition; Nebraska is a great fit. SEC wanted major TV markets, very good academics to help the league's perception, and solid all-around athletics; A&M and Mizzou are great fits.


I'm not saying that academics are completely thrown out the window - but you & I know that this is all about football and TV's. The only academic conversation that I've seen was talk about how when/if MU moves to the SEC they will have the same # of AAU schools as the Big 12.

duncan_idaho 10-24-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8044340)
When he needed a fresh start and no one would give it to him but KSU, he bolted after only one year.

I think were better off with Martin, but that was still shitty.

That's one of my biggest regrets... wish Alden had been ballsy enough to go hard after Huggins. The job was open... and there was talk (from a prominent basketball-crazy booster I had a conversation with) that OJ Mayo might have come along to Columbia if Huggy landed there instead of Manhattan.

He still bolts Mizzou for WVU, IMO, but it would have been fun to watch Mayo, Beaseley and Walker together for a year.

HemiEd 10-24-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8044340)
When he needed a fresh start and no one would give it to him but KSU, he bolted after only one year.

I think were better off with Martin, but that was still shitty.

It was, and it would be cool to see KSU get to play him, along with Mizzou getting to play Mike Anderson.

Saul Good 10-24-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8044340)
When he needed a fresh start and no one would give it to him but KSU, he bolted after only one year.

I think were better off with Martin, but that was still shitty.

The guy went home. Can't blame him for that. He made KSU basketball relevant. It worked out well for everyone.

eazyb81 10-24-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8044365)
The guy went home. Can't blame him for that. He made KSU basketball relevant. It worked out well for everyone.

Which is the same reason why it's hard for me to fault Anderson now that enough time has passed.

HemiEd 10-24-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8044377)
Which is the same reason why it's hard for me to fault Anderson now that enough time has passed.

Do you look forward to playing him?

eazyb81 10-24-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8044382)
Do you look forward to playing him?

Right now I think it would be fun, but ask me again two years from now when he is clowning Haith.

Raiderhater 10-24-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8044365)
The guy went home. Can't blame him for that. He made KSU basketball relevant. It worked out well for everyone.


No one knew it was going to work out well at the time. Martin was a completely unknown and untested guy.

Huggins had gotten into some trouble and was out of coaching until KSU went out on a limb with him, and that is how he thanked them for that gamble.


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