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Frazod 03-14-2018 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13467936)
Pretty sure he's been cut or in the process of being released. I'd be all over him, but worry about his price tag and desire to start (which isn't happening anywhere).

I want no part of him. Went from starter to an unwanted backup in a year.

But who’s left? We should all pray daily for Pat’s health.

Frazod 03-14-2018 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13467941)
He signed with Arizona.

Good.

bricks 03-14-2018 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13467935)
it would be silly to only spend money on D linemen from here on out. We need a guy, I get it, but we also need help at the center/gaurd position and don't forget about a CB.

If the Chiefs are not as in love with Cam Erving as I think they are, we might see them sign a veteral OG which I would get behind. It would also be nice to sign a CB like Fuller, but don't know if that's going to happen as we HAVE to get a backup QB. We can plug and play at G/C, DL, and CB.

I think they should sign a defensive lineman. Im ok with that.

And then draft dbs. This years draft is deep on dbs. If they take this approach, theyre doing the right thing imo.

I dont expect them to fill every hole this year. This is about at least a 2 year fix provided that everything goes right, if not 3.

*I agree with you on the Oline no question. Addressing the Oline wouldve been my top priority rather than Watkins. I didnt agree with how the money was spent but oh well its done. Im hoping they could find some good interior lineman late in this years draft. If they dont find a starter, at least draft some depth there.

Hoover 03-14-2018 06:59 AM

Any interest in DaQuan Jones at DT?

Hoover 03-14-2018 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13467944)
I want no part of him. Went from starter to an unwanted backup in a year.

But who’s left? We should all pray daily for Pat’s health.

My fear all along is that we sign Colin Kaepernick to backup Mahomes. Puts to rest Clark's anti-kneeling policy, but probably creates other issues.

There isn't really shit out there. I doubt we go with a guy like McCarron or that he would want to back up a rookie. The Broncos will eventually cut a QB. A guy like Trevor Siemian would be perfect, but I think he has too much value to just cut. Maybe I'm wrong. Suck when you're like damn, it would be nice if coulf get Tom Savage or Matt Moore.

Frazod 03-14-2018 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13467958)
My fear all along is that we sign Colin Kaepernick to backup Mahomes. Puts to rest Clark's anti-kneeling policy, but probably creates other issues.

There isn't really shit out there. I doubt we go with a guy like McCarron or that he would want to back up a rookie. The Broncos will eventually cut a QB. A guy like Trevor Siemian would be perfect, but I think he has too much value to just cut. Maybe I'm wrong. Suck when you're like damn, it would be nice if coulf get Tom Savage or Matt Moore.

Jesus. I’d rather have Cassel back.

Mecca 03-14-2018 07:18 AM

Holy shit Chase Daniel gets 10 mill for 2 years with 7 guaranteed that's a ton for a backup QB, see why we passed.

Mile High Mania 03-14-2018 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13467974)
Holy shit Chase Daniel gets 10 mill for 2 years with 7 guaranteed that's a ton for a backup QB, see why we passed.

That's a lot of bank for a guy with a 1-1 record in 2 career starts and having only thrown 3 passes in the last 3 seasons.

Couch-Potato 03-14-2018 07:25 AM

Tyler Eifert anyone? ...do we still need a second TE?

Couch-Potato 03-14-2018 07:26 AM

Is it the total number, or just the guaranteed portion that goes against the cap in NFL contracts?

Mecca 03-14-2018 07:27 AM

Mychal Kendricks is solidly on the block now as the Eagles have signed Nigel Bradham to return.

Frazod 03-14-2018 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13467982)
That's a lot of bank for a guy with a 1-1 record in 2 career starts and having only thrown 3 passes in the last 3 seasons.

He’s had the misfortune of playing behind healthy starters his entire career. But he’s obviously doing something right.

Mecca 03-14-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13467993)
He’s had the misfortune of playing behind healthy starters his entire career. But he’s obviously doing something right.

It's because knowing that system gives him at least 5-6 teams and the Saints love him..

It also doesn't hurt that he's unquestionably a backup and isn't gonna be an issue for your starter, teams like that.

wheeler08 03-14-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13467984)
Tyler Eifert anyone? ...do we still need a second TE?

We’ve always needed a 2nd TE.... a considering our 2nd TE just got arrested, so yea

Mecca 03-14-2018 07:30 AM

Eifert literally is constantly injured, I think those injuries have also stolen some of his talent.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 07:38 AM

Solid TE talent in the draft rounds 2-4. If Harris is not in the plans, I expect Orson Charles and Jace Amaro to at least compete for the #3 spot. If Celek comes in for 1 year near vet minimum, that could be ok. Good blocker and knows the system. Not a weapon though...

In58men 03-14-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 13468001)
We’ve always needed a 2nd TE.... a considering our 2nd TE just got arrested, so yea

Terez believes Chiefs are going to draft one as well.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13467992)
Mychal Kendricks is solidly on the block now as the Eagles have signed Nigel Bradham to return.

Don’t need him now, unfortunately.

In58men 03-14-2018 07:44 AM

I think McKinnon to SF

RunKC 03-14-2018 07:47 AM

Eagles are the most talented returning SB team that I can remember.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13467974)
Holy shit Chase Daniel gets 10 mill for 2 years with 7 guaranteed that's a ton for a backup QB, see why we passed.

Yeah, no thanks then... I would have loved him for a couple million per year, but not that.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 08:03 AM

It’s really hard to say what moves the Chiefs should or should not be making at this point without knowing the cap space.

I really want a DL though more than anything else.

oldman 03-14-2018 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13467935)
It would also be nice to sign a CB like Fuller, but don't know if that's going to happen as we HAVE to get a backup QB. We can plug and play at G/C, DL, and CB.

I'd agree with most of this. I'd like to see another quality CB, but you're right, we have to have a backup QB. I'd hate to think we'd go into camp with only Bray behind Mahomes. If we don't get one in FA, we're stuck with getting a late rounder or UDFA. If it comes to that, don't waste a draft choice on a very thin QB pool.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-14-2018 08:12 AM

Former Chiefs’ CB Terrance Mitchell intends to sign a 3-year, $12 million deal with the Cleveland Browns, per source.

TRR 03-14-2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 13468098)
Former Chiefs’ CB Terrance Mitchell intends to sign a 3-year, $12 million deal with the Cleveland Browns, per source.

Ooooh. Dorsey gonna Dorsey.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13468083)
It’s really hard to say what moves the Chiefs should or should not be making at this point without knowing the cap space.

I really want a DL though more than anything else.

Yes, I am interested to see the direction. This will be fluid for some time, even into the summer with perhaps some post June 1 cuts. The secondary still needs upgrades and a DL piece is needed. Need a NT.

Guys we may sniff around:
- Melvin, Claiborne
- Poe, Richardson, Pennel (depth)
- Bray likely gets another contract
- Maybe a veteran guard/Center on the cheap to replace Fulton

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 08:16 AM

Good for Mitchell. Sure wasn’t getting that here.

chiefforlife 03-14-2018 08:16 AM

Would you give up a second round to make this happen?


Cowboys give David Irving the second-round tender
Posted by Darin Gantt on March 14, 2018, 10:03 AM EDT
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The Cowboys couldn’t afford to lose another key defensive piece, so they spent a little more money.

According to David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used the second-round tender on restricted free agent defensive tackle David Irving.

That will pay him $2.914 million this year, but he seems worth it. Since he was undrafted, the Cowboys couldn’t risk using the low tender on him, which would have allowed another team to sign him away without compensation.

Despite playing just eight games because of injury and suspension, he recorded seven sacks last season.

The Cowboys are losing linebacker Anthony Hitchens to the Chiefs, but used the franchise tag to retain defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 08:16 AM

How the **** did Mitchell get that money? Wow

The Franchise 03-14-2018 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 13468098)
Former Chiefs’ CB Terrance Mitchell intends to sign a 3-year, $12 million deal with the Cleveland Browns, per source.

Good for him. He wasn’t going to get that here.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 08:17 AM

We’re going to need a veteran QB to at least take a few snaps at OTAs in April. Probably Bray.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13468105)
How the **** did Mitchell get that money? Wow

Dorsey.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 13468098)
Former Chiefs’ CB Terrance Mitchell intends to sign a 3-year, $12 million deal with the Cleveland Browns, per source.

Wow.

Helps our compensatory pick balance..... thanks Dorsey

Iconic 03-14-2018 08:22 AM

Since Wilkerson is out we should maybe consider a low risk high upside guy like Dominique Easley. Injury prone af but if it works out... shit.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 08:25 AM

again, I don’t know what the cap room looks like but at this point I think I’d just grab Richardson/Poe and a QB and call it a week for awhile.

Strongside 03-14-2018 08:25 AM

Someone paid Terrance Mitchell and it wasn't minimum wage at a McDonalds?

Color me shocked.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 13468118)
Since Wilkerson is out we should maybe consider a low risk high upside guy like Dominique Easley. Injury prone af but if it works out... shit.

4-3 fit. Low risk? Brokedick.

Iconic 03-14-2018 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13468123)
Someone paid Terrance Mitchell and it wasn't minimum wage at a McDonalds?

Color me shocked.

That someone is Dorsey.

Not shocked.

Frazod 03-14-2018 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 13468099)
Ooooh. Dorsey gonna Dorsey.

And Browns gonna Browns.

chiefforlife 03-14-2018 08:30 AM

I thought Mitchell was the best of the rest we had.

So we have Fuller, Amerson and who?

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2018 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13468134)
I thought Mitchell was the best of the rest we had.

So we have Fuller, Amerson and who?

Nelson

raybec 4 03-14-2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13468134)
I thought Mitchell was the best of the rest we had.

So we have Fuller, Amerson and who?

Nelson and Acker

The Franchise 03-14-2018 08:39 AM

I think Acker is a FA.

Fuller, Amerson, Nelson, Lampkin

chiefforlife 03-14-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13468158)
I think Acker is a FA.

Fuller, Amerson, Nelson, Lampkin

Right, forgot about Nelson duh. Lampkin? Who?

Dunerdr 03-14-2018 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13468023)
Solid TE talent in the draft rounds 2-4. If Harris is not in the plans, I expect Orson Charles and Jace Amaro to at least compete for the #3 spot. If Celek comes in for 1 year near vet minimum, that could be ok. Good blocker and knows the system. Not a weapon though...

Wait when did we get amaro?

Messier 03-14-2018 08:43 AM

Probably drafting 2 CBs

O.city 03-14-2018 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13468104)
Would you give up a second round to make this happen?


Cowboys give David Irving the second-round tender
Posted by Darin Gantt on March 14, 2018, 10:03 AM EDT
Getty Images

The Cowboys couldn’t afford to lose another key defensive piece, so they spent a little more money.

According to David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used the second-round tender on restricted free agent defensive tackle David Irving.

That will pay him $2.914 million this year, but he seems worth it. Since he was undrafted, the Cowboys couldn’t risk using the low tender on him, which would have allowed another team to sign him away without compensation.

Despite playing just eight games because of injury and suspension, he recorded seven sacks last season.

The Cowboys are losing linebacker Anthony Hitchens to the Chiefs, but used the franchise tag to retain defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence.

Yeah, I'd send them our 54

Couch-Potato 03-14-2018 08:44 AM

Bring in Richardson and Gaines please!

Dunerdr 03-14-2018 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13468104)
Would you give up a second round to make this happen?


Cowboys give David Irving the second-round tender
Posted by Darin Gantt on March 14, 2018, 10:03 AM EDT
Getty Images

The Cowboys couldn’t afford to lose another key defensive piece, so they spent a little more money.

According to David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used the second-round tender on restricted free agent defensive tackle David Irving.

That will pay him $2.914 million this year, but he seems worth it. Since he was undrafted, the Cowboys couldn’t risk using the low tender on him, which would have allowed another team to sign him away without compensation.

Despite playing just eight games because of injury and suspension, he recorded seven sacks last season.

The Cowboys are losing linebacker Anthony Hitchens to the Chiefs, but used the franchise tag to retain defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence.

Probably not worth it but imagine if we snatched Irving and Hitchens from the girls.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 08:46 AM

Giants signing Nate Solder.

chiefforlife 03-14-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 13468174)
Probably not worth it but imagine if we snatched Irving and Hitchens from the girls.

Most Cowboys fans were hoping to sign Sammy Watkins too!! Letting Dez Go.

That would be awesome, Watkins, Hitchens and Irving...

Strongside 03-14-2018 08:48 AM

Give me Jaire Alexander in the draft and I don't care if we sign another CB or not. That kid is going to be a star.

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Iczer 03-14-2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13468169)
Yeah, I'd send them our 54


How does this work? could we make it contingent on him signing a deal? I'd give up a 2nd rounder for a proven player at only 24 years old still.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 08:49 AM

Keith Reaser is also under contract. No doubt the secondary needs upgrading....
I think Sorenson gets axed. Berry, McQuay, Murray left at safety. Terrel was ok before he got hurt. Maybe they bring him back too.

Chief Northman 03-14-2018 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13468179)
Give me Jaire Alexander in the draft and I don't care if we sign another CB or not. That kid is going to be a star.

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No 1st round pick. Pipe dream.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 08:51 AM

2nd round should be either CB or S.

chiefforlife 03-14-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 13468181)
How does this work? could we make it contingent on him signing a deal? I'd give up a 2nd rounder for a proven player at only 24 years old still.

Could we give them next years Rams second rounder?

RunKC 03-14-2018 08:59 AM

I’m just saying guys...I think Veach is going to use that Rams 2nd rd pick (and maybe more) to move up somewhere. Either from 54 to the 30-35 range or from 78 or 87 to go back into rd 2.

I don’t see the use in waiting to use that pick next year. You’re window starts now and you have 3 years. You’re waiting 1 of those years already and then maybe another year to develop.

Just use it now

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13468198)
I’m just saying guys...I think Veach is going to use that Rams 2nd rd pick (and maybe more) to move up somewhere. Either from 54 to the 30-35 range or from 78 or 87 to go back into rd 2.

I don’t see the use in waiting to use that pick next year. You’re window starts now and you have 3 years. You’re waiting 1 of those years already and then maybe another year to develop.

Just use it now

I would do it myself. Besides, that Rams pick is likely to be in the back 1/3 of the round, and the Chiefs’ pick might be too.

raybec 4 03-14-2018 09:18 AM

Richardson spotted at the Best Buy in Olathe, the Chiefs team plane is in Chicago, a real estate agent friend was just contacted by EJ Gaines, Veach was just seen leaving Jerry Jones' office.

Remember the days when the Chiefs did nothing to get better so people would make this shit up and it would get 5000 replies? Good times

In58men 03-14-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13468221)
Richardson spotted at the Best Buy in Olathe, the Chiefs team plane is in Chicago, a real estate agent friend was just contacted by EJ Gaines, Veach was just seen leaving Jerry Jones' office.

Remember the days when the Chiefs did nothing to get better so people would make this shit up and it would get 5000 replies? Good times

Die

thabear04 03-14-2018 09:20 AM

Mitchell gone to the browns on a 3 year 12m

Been posted never mind.

Amnorix 03-14-2018 09:20 AM

Perhaps Q, but Nate Solder to the Giants. 4 years and up to $62M, making him the highest paid OLineman in NFL history. $35 million guaranteed.

He's not, of course, the best offensive lineman in the NFL. PFF had him ranked as the #18 tackle. Problem is that there are NO good tackle options in free agency so if your OLine is a mess, like the Giants' was last year, then you gotta pay big $$$ to fix it no matter what.

From a Pats perspective, losing the other guys we lost didn't hurt too bad. Losing Solder does. No obvious replacement starting quality left tackle on the team.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 09:21 AM

What's a 2nd rounder next year valued at? A 3rd round this year? I wonder if we could get into the 30-32 range for a player like Justin Reid or a CB.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2018 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13468226)
Perhaps Q, but Nate Solder to the Giants. 4 years and up to $62M, making him the highest paid OLineman in NFL history. $35 million guaranteed.

He's not, of course, the best offensive lineman in the NFL. PFF had him ranked as the #18 tackle. Problem is that there are NO good tackle options in free agency so if your OLine is a mess, like the Giants' was last year, then you gotta pay big $$$ to fix it no matter what.

From a Pats perspective, losing the other guys we lost didn't hurt too bad. Losing Solder does. No obvious replacement starting quality left tackle on the team.

Losing out on Norwell probably made them desperate.

YayMike 03-14-2018 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13468198)
I’m just saying guys...I think Veach is going to use that Rams 2nd rd pick (and maybe more) to move up somewhere. Either from 54 to the 30-35 range or from 78 or 87 to go back into rd 2.

I don’t see the use in waiting to use that pick next year. You’re window starts now and you have 3 years. You’re waiting 1 of those years already and then maybe another year to develop.

Just use it now

That's a great idea, using the 2nd from next year. Honestly, never even considered that.

O.city 03-14-2018 09:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Cowboys putting just a 2nd-round tender on David Irving should be viewed as an open invitation to make Jerry squirm with an offer sheet</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/973944123089674240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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raybec 4 03-14-2018 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13468223)
Die

I'm going to, probably not as quickly as anyone within a quarter mile of your grill, but I will eventually die.

The Franchise 03-14-2018 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13468246)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Cowboys putting just a 2nd-round tender on David Irving should be viewed as an open invitation to make Jerry squirm with an offer sheet</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/973944123089674240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Can we send them next years 2nd rounder?

O.city 03-14-2018 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13468256)
Can we send them next years 2nd rounder?

No clue.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2018 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13468260)
No clue.

It's going to NY for Ode...nevermind, time to munch on a bug, O!

Mr_Tomahawk 03-14-2018 09:42 AM

Tyler Bray.

Mother****erJones 03-14-2018 09:44 AM

I still think Veach is going to surprise us with some trade

Amnorix 03-14-2018 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13468256)
Can we send them next years 2nd rounder?

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13468260)
No clue.


I don't believe so. Period to sign a restricted free agent is through April 20. Tagging team has right to match for a relatively short period of time (four days?), and if it does not match the draft pick goes over. Since the draft is April 26-28, I assume it's not coincidental that the restricted free agency signing period ends April 20.

https://nflcommunications.com/Docume...gency%20QA.pdf

milkman 03-14-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13468287)
I don't believe so. Period to sign a restricted free agent is through April 20. Tagging team has right to match for a relatively short period of time (four days?), and if it does not match the draft pick goes over. Since the draft is April 26-28, I assume it's not coincidental that the restricted free agency signing period ends April 20.

https://nflcommunications.com/Docume...gency%20QA.pdf

A team could theoretically negotiate with the team that has the player's rights to remove the tender.

FloridaMan88 03-14-2018 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13468270)
Tyler Bray.

It would be a damn shame to have so much potential on offense go down the drain if Mahomes is injured and dumpster fire Bray has to play any meaningful snaps.

A back-up QB who is serviceable... make it happen Veach.

milkman 03-14-2018 10:21 AM

I'd take a hard look at Matt Barkley.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:22 AM

I think we need our backup to have a decently strong arm, for obvious reasons. It has to be at least average I think.

O.city 03-14-2018 10:23 AM

Some might not be a fan, but I'd look at Mark Sanchez

pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2018 10:25 AM

I kinda hope Oakland gets Nelson at this point if it means they lose Crabtree. I think he needs a QB who can extend plays and throw on the run to be at his best, especially at 33 years old. That’s how he got a ton of his TDs and yards in GB.


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