I agree, flying a banner at Tampa would have been bad ass. But I haven't donated (yet) so I guess I shouldn't be suggesting things

Stuff and things

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Eh, I mean I get your point and I think most times I would agree but to me the only way we could actually have an effect is making the Hunt's look bad. This isn't about making Pioli consider our "ideas". Draw attention to what is going on. I certainly wasn't hoping that the media would be looking due to the cheering towards Cassel(although they did care about the banner), but in the end it really couldn't be more clear that this fan base won't accept Cassel any longer. Fair or not, thats what came of it.

I don't care what the nation thinks of our fan base. When we lost playoff games, did the respect other fans had for the fan base make us sleep better? Nope. I am a Yankees fan, and while I usually try to make the point that we aren't all assholes and that I completely get why people hate my team, when the Yankees win I don't feel bad. It almost makes it feel better. I don't think any of us should give one **** what the country thinks of us. Besides that, nobody is going to care about this in 2 months.

May not be a very realistic idea, but If there were to be any funds spent on a road game I'd say you'd have to target the Sunday night game in San Diego (Nov. 1) or the MNF game in Pittsburgh (Nov. 12). National audience! Night time adds an entirely different hurdle to finding some creative means to get the message out though.

we should have someone write a one act play recreating the famous dinner between pioli, whitlock, and haley...

then give a free performance in the parking lot before a game

Except that, if either of those fall after the time change, it would be getting dark that close to game time. Kind of hard to see a banner in the dark. ;)

A "Fire Pioli. Bench Cassel." batman signal.

This all kind of agrees with my point.

We have done what we can do.

****ing Pioli.

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I was never going after your point. I just wanted to know if Ngata was reacting to what Winston said or if he heard them too. Even if he was reacting to Winston, my plan wasn't to use that as proof of anything.

Edit: That is your point about it blowing over. As far as the funding, I still feel at this point any kind of press in the end is going to be pressure on the organization in our favor.

I disagree.

This will continue until we either run out of money or they acknowledge us.

How does Matt get a concussion for that hit.
Are we missing something from the camera angle.?

Light it up.

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"We damn near miss Carl" SaveOurChiefs.Com

LMAO

I dont see it at all.

I think you guys are naive to expect midseason changes.

What is funny about that? I understand you disagree with this but you are in the minority. If you have a point to make, use your words.

We expect to see a change at QB during the season. Yes. Our fan dollars are on the line here.

I don't think anyone here truly believes that Clark will pull the plug on Pioli mid season.

No shit, this BS media ploy by Pioli company deserves an even bigger reply for the next Chiefs home game.

I hate to make the parallel but it reminds me of the Thomas Jefferson quote "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "

you are right Zach. Hai guyz, lets just give up and keep supporting this team!

Yup, won't happen.

The hope is that these assholes are gone next season.

If you don't know how to read my posts then I can't help you.

1-5? I didn't vote for that!- saveourchiefs.com

HEY PIOLI, YOU'RE NO CARL - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

That'll grind his gears.

Look I know its now your full time job to track down every single person on the Internet who isn't all in on this and argue with them...I mean we all have our things we love in the world but I have been very clear with my words in this thread that you guys made your point and that continuing to do the same thing won't mean more pressure it will just make the fanbase look like angry joyless pricks. You can't "make the point more" by doing it more.

The point is made more at this point by people not showing up.

if I recall, you have been consistent in your opinion that the movement won't bring change which implies we are wasting time, money, and effort

I'm not being condescending to you... I would appreciate a little bit of the same in return.

We disagree with your belief that we cannot do any more. We can. Raising the awareness of Chiefs fans all over is equally as important as getting a message to ownership and the front office. If they continue to ignore us, if they will not talk to us, the fan base will perhaps finally get the hint that Clark and Pioli honestly don't care.

That will be a driving force behind STH sales next season and whether or not people continue spending money on single game tickets, gear, parking, and food.

Actually yes. You were condescending to me just minutes earlier which is fine. I know all of you think you are doing God's work and saving the world from itself when in reality you are just a bunch of people with too much time on their hands. I am not a man to tell other people what to do with their hard earned money so all the best even though after an original great idea you guys are just starving for attention and spinning your tires.

I think a lot of people (people in general, not people on this site) would agree with the portion of this post in bold. I understand you have money for more banners and such, which is why I think you should be a bit more positive whenever you do another one. In either case, I agree that the point was made yesterday, and any more banners will just be fans communicating with the organization. Although, now, it's more like just sending a huge text that several people can see. Future banners won't have as much of an impact as yesterday's did (which is why people are wanting to up the ante by creating a billboard or taking it to a road game).

I think the social media thing is great, though. By joining saveourchiefs.com, people tie themselves to the cause. A banner seemingly speaks for a fan base as a whole (all about perception). I think that's why people were so divided over it. Not everyone wanted to be tied with it. Just like saying the whole stadium cheered Cassel's injury yesterday whenever not everyone there did. We all got grouped together. You can say that you didn't, but your voice is lost among the crowd mentality which the media has created.

I don't agree that it's plateaued, but the point of diminishing returns is definitely something to think about, and everyone knows the strongest message you can send is not buying the product.

I don't think another banner is a bad idea, mostly due to yesterday's gameplan and Cassel's injury. It's one thing to complain about the starting quarterback while not really knowing if the alternative is any better, and if Cassel was healthy we'd basically be giving the same message of "let's try something new"... but, Quinn might start next week. He might look good or he might look worse than Cassel... then Crennel might name Cassel the starter or Quinn... tl;dr - a lot could happen in the next week, which would change the message.

Eventually though, I think there does need to be some kind of call to action.

In rereading this, I do have to say that I think it will help if you ultimately put the site (saveourchiefs.com) name with future banners and such.

Starving for attention? They grabbed the attention of thousands of people in a week... they should do something with it.

I agree it isn't a "bad" idea but it changes nothing about the status quo of things. Whereas the act of doing the banner in the first place was a good idea because it made the frustration clear. It won't be made clearer with another

Whoever is in charge with the tweets for @SaveOurChiefs: tone it down a bit with the negativity toward Cassel. Hitting a man while he is down does not exactly have mass appeal (especially with our behavior being scrutinized following the Winston interview).

Actually just thinking about it, the best time to do it is the Steeler game. So let this "bad publicity" die down then do it again once Haley pushes Pioli's shit in.

Fly another one that just says "GO CHIEFS! www.saveourchiefs.com"

how about - "Get well Matty, Go KC & Quinn! Die in a Fire Pioli!

I believe it has to be turned into a Pioli or the Fans message that clearly states we are behind the players.

Having SaveOurChiefs at the end of the banner might convey the team support, but the first half of the message needs to put the pressure directly on Pioli's contract situation.

The people behind this. They are all about it.

Pioli=Epic Fail Saveourchiefs.com

cassel is the problem, and pioli is the root of the problem.

How about:
AL DAVIS=PIOLI SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Will pass it along to the team

SaveOurChiefs.com- liberate candy wrappers, fire Pioli

Don't insult Al Davis.

Guys we're losing the PR battle and WTF is the SaveourChiefs guy on twitter doing? Is he aware that the media is watching his tweets?

Exactly. Blindly emoting doesn't help anything.

Is this really what we want?

@SaveOurChiefs
I just tweeted nine pics of my penis to @EricWinston. #FirePioli

We need to tone it down till the Steeler/Haley game.

Minor set back, but we arent losing....

We will reach out and can be heard.

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who is that?

Seriously man.. the "dick pics" thing. It's really starting to bum me out...

Even making me want to distance myself from the movement if I'm going to be associated that kind of thing.

Damn not cool...

Is that a real tweet? WTF?

yeah the guy who is sending out those tweets should be removed from the cause

Looks like that got cleaned up.

With a tweet announcing that removal

dumb tweets, jesus

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#15 :cuss:

Don't see it, so maybe it was a deleted tweet. Even if he didn't send that out, the "SaveOurChiefs" tweets are really kind of obnoxious.

That moron is the guy tweeting?

**** this is all for not then..

A ****ing unknown n00b was running this? Come on guys get your shit together on this part of the campaign.

That guy isn't running the twitter feed. I think it was Teedubya...he tweets out stuff people post on here occasionally.

He should know better...

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Jesus maybe the national media is right. That was ****ing stupid...

Daaaaaaaamn dude. Some of those recent tweets have really taken the wind out of my sails.

I am Anti-Pioli, but I am Pro-Chiefs. This should be about taking OUR team back, not taking cheap shots and jabs at an injured player or the player who defended him (no matter where you stand on the issue). I feel bad, man.

This guy on Twitter is making the movement feel malicious and cruel. I feel like it should be more informative and energizing.

EDIT: The volume of the tweets needs to be reduced, and the content should be filtered through multiple people. 70,000+ followers is powerful. There is a lot of people on this board counting on vehicles like the @SaveOurChiefs account to help our voice be heard. Afraid the responsibility that comes with that is not being taken seriously.

This is absolutely ****ing perfect!

WE SUPPORT THE CHIEFS. PIOLI MUST GO.

(37 characters)

We have 3 guys helping, I addressed this issue and deleted this tweet.

Pioli-We Want Our Team Back

You guys really gave Joey the ****ing steering wheel on the twitter feed? Why in the **** would you do that?

What? Absolutely not.

LMAO

Wow.

I like this one a lot.

If not, my apologies. That's what it sounded like.

The whole tone needs to be adjusted ASAP. The tweets need to take on a more self-assured tone. No more attacks on players. Statistics are fine, but leave the pot-shots on CP.

We have the facts. We know we are right. We know the concerns for our team are valid and the movement is justified. Approach it that way. With 70,000+ followers and the national media watching, the tweets should be approached much more politically than they have been thus far.

Honestly, when you think about it, phonetapping, paranoia, manipulation, secrecy, and candy wrappers has me thinking this whole ****ing thing could have been staged. Pioli knew the fan base was riled up. He may have had the whole ****ing thing planned. It sounds fringe, and it probably is. I just don't see how Matt got a concussion on that fall to the ground he took. If our GM would turn to that kind of shit against the fanbase, trying to start a civil war, **** him and everyone who looks like him.

I agree. I also think we'd present a better front if we left profanity out of our message, both on Twitter and Facebook.

The Chiefs, and Pioli, really wanted to distance themselves from Carl, so I also dig that one.

WE'VE LOST THE GLEAM, MEN - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM