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htismaqe 02-12-2025 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17966583)
Pretty easy to understand.

I said if the KC staff thinks there is a guy they love at LT who is plug and play (not Kingsley raw, they should know the difference) and can be a star LT go get them.

That is based on their opinion. My thoughts are irrelevant here.

Of course once things get boring and I miss football I will have a whole bunch of opinions. Some will be right and some will be wrong. But for now that's all I have for you.
What if there simply aren't any surefire day 1 starters in the draft? Their draft board doesn't matter at that point. They'd be settling.

There's a lot more to this than just saying throw the whole draft at it. That would be extremely short-sighted for a team trying to sustain this level of success.

MahomesMagic 02-12-2025 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17966589)
What if there simply aren't any surefire day 1 starters in the draft? Their draft board doesn't matter at that point. They'd be settling.

There's a lot more to this than just saying throw the whole draft at it. That would be extremely short-sighted for a team trying to sustain this level of success.
Then of course no.


You don't do the deal unless you are as sure as you can be on a player.

htismaqe 02-12-2025 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17966587)
Some make it to 10 or 12.
To get to 10, we would have to have a trade partner and we would have to give up MORE than we traded for Mahomes. That's just not going to happen.

htismaqe 02-12-2025 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17966590)
Then of course no.


You don't do the deal unless you are as sure as you can be on a player.
That's what I'm trying to say.

A lot of us have been scouting tackles since Fisher left. The chances of this kind of thing actually happening are slim, if there's any chance at all. Teams in our position find long-term solutions at LT in the middle of the draft. It's all pretty much luck.

MahomesMagic 02-12-2025 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17966591)
To get to 10, we would have to have a trade partner and we would have to give up MORE than we traded for Mahomes. That's just not going to happen.


If the thoughts are that most NFL teams don't like the players as much at the top it makes it cheaper to deal up.

Part of why we were able to get Mahomes for a low trade up cost was a lot of the Dinosaurs thought the 2017 QB's didn't have any elite talent.

That of course was dead wrong.

Mecca 02-12-2025 03:40 PM
Look, you wanna continue to compete for SB's trading your whole draft for 1 guy isn't gonna do that.

htismaqe 02-12-2025 03:41 PM
There is a greater chance that Kingsley is the starter at LT next season over a drafted in the first LT. It's just not going to happen.

htismaqe 02-12-2025 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17966595)
If the thoughts are that most NFL teams don't like the players as much at the top it makes it cheaper to deal up.

Part of why we were able to get Mahomes for a low trade up cost was a lot of the Dinosaurs thought the 2017 QB's didn't have any elite talent.

That of course was dead wrong.
Patrick Mahomes wasn't a consensus top 10 pick. He was a QB with unrealized potential and a lot of warts. He was a top 10 pick because of the position he plays and the value of that position.

A top 10 LT has almost zero question marks. It's one of the safest picks you can make, relatively speaking. Teams are not going to line up to help us get one.

Mecca 02-12-2025 03:45 PM
You want this offense to look different?

Where that starts is adding Rice back, probably bringing Brown back and having that trio for the entire year, adding real talent to the RB room, those things are doable.

Easy 6 02-12-2025 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17966574)
I think the most realistic thing the Chiefs could do to improve their team at this point to hope they can convince Tyron Smith that at this stage of his career trying to win a SB matters and he'll sign a 1 year 10 million dollar deal.
I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that, smart way of buying some time to figure out who the future is while presumably getting solid play in the interim

Easy 6 02-12-2025 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17966600)
There is a greater chance that Kingsley is the starter at LT next season over a drafted in the first LT. It's just not going to happen.
Giving away the farm to move up in a weak class like this should be a non starter in everyones mind

MahomesMagic 02-12-2025 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17966574)
I think the most realistic thing the Chiefs could do to improve their team at this point to hope they can convince Tyron Smith that at this stage of his career trying to win a SB matters and he'll sign a 1 year 10 million dollar deal.
Tyron Smith was on my short list last year.


Let's get him.

RunKC 02-12-2025 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17966542)
Super Bowl winners haven't been nor will ever be bought at the top of free agency.

It's drafting well, paying your home run picks, and then supplementing with the Drue Tranquill's, Charles Omenihu's, Jerick McKinnon's of the league. The draft is the prerequisite though and thank goodness we have some better ammo this year in the meat of this class.
Yup. They have no choice but to go after a stable vet and build the rest of the offense.

This draft is damn good at TE, RB, CB and DL. They’re gonna need to add to those. Offense is painfully slow and non-explosive outside of Worthy and Rashee.

Also something people aren’t talking about: Spags can’t keep disguising blitzes. He needs a strong young pass rusher added to this roster badly.

Mecca 02-12-2025 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17966621)
Yup. They have no choice but to go after a stable vet and build the rest of the offense.

This draft is damn good at TE, RB, CB and DL. They’re gonna need to add to those. Offense is painfully slow and non-explosive outside of Worthy and Rashee.

Also something people aren’t talking about: Spags can’t keep disguising blitzes. He needs a strong young pass rusher added to this roster badly.
Good luck on that, he thinks Michael Strahan is the prototype for his defense and those guys are unicorns. That's Myles Garrett, it's why we never see dude's who are speed rushers on the field here.

MahomesMagic 02-12-2025 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17966625)
Good luck on that, he thinks Michael Strahan is the prototype for his defense and those guys are unicorns. That's Myles Garrett, it's why we never see dude's who are speed rushers on the field here.
Yeah, that is one negative for Spags.


We could find the greatest steal of a pass rusher in the 3rd but those types tend to be undersized, situational and he would never see the field here.


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