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Dunerdr 01-17-2025 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17913761)
If the Bills beat us it'll be because Josh Allen had a fabulous game. I think Cook is excellent but we've absolutely shown the ability to stop guys like him, and he's not going to be the game wrecking freak.

Henry is just a monster. And having to deal with the threat of him and Lamar playing off each other is just exhausting to even think about.

Yeah I agree Henry is better over all but we will load up to stop Henry first. The bills are not one dimensional because your forced to pay Josh Allen first then risk the Cook gash when left one on one in space with a guy like Tranquil.

UChieffyBugger 01-17-2025 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17913842)
Counterpoint: the Ravens were running a new offense with Derrick Henry and needed more time to gel and find their footing than the Chiefs defense.

They got 185 yards and were still second best in the game. The key is we've faced them already so we have evidence of how we can approach a potential matchup and also more tape in what they've done since we played them. On the other hand the Ravens never played this Chiefs team and won't have much film. Same with Buffalo.

staylor26 01-17-2025 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17913842)
Counterpoint: the Ravens were running a new offense with Derrick Henry and needed more time to gel and find their footing than the Chiefs defense.

I'm sick of this narrative. Henry was great in weeks 2 & 3. The Chiefs have a great run D and consistently do well against Henry.

ChiTown 01-17-2025 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17913922)
I'm sick of this narrative. Henry was great in weeks 2 & 3. The Chiefs have a great run D and consistently do well against Henry.

The ONLY game he didn't play well in this year was in Wk 1 vs the Chiefs.

BWillie 01-17-2025 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17913736)
Jeremy Fowler just confirmed that Jaylen Watson is being activated off the IR.

Yes

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Direckshun 01-17-2025 01:13 PM

Just to weigh in on the Bills/Ravens game.

I think the Ravens are a very, very good team. But there's no way they're beating the Bills or the Chiefs. Maybe not even the Bengals, honestly. Even the Texans could push them.

The Ravens have no receivers, with Zay out. And on defense, they've been passed all over all season until they got hot against a bunch of bad teams.

The Bills win this one in a walk.

There's only one AFC team that can manage the Bills, and it's KC.

TheGuardian 01-17-2025 01:17 PM

Something I just remembered about that Ravens game to open the season -

That was when Bolton was just coming back and I think we all remember how slow he looked in that game, like he was running in mud (not that NB is Fred Warner but it was esp bad).

After that he was fine. We also didn't have Omenihu either.

I just don't see the Ravens as an issue. If we do stop Henry, then Lamar turns back into playoff Lamar.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-17-2025 01:27 PM

Spags have the formula to beat the Ravens and the Bills defense struggled for much of the season. I'd rather play the Raven if I were to choose.

TwistedChief 01-17-2025 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17914183)
Just to weigh in on the Bills/Ravens game.

I think the Ravens are a very, very good team. But there's no way they're beating the Bills or the Chiefs. Maybe not even the Bengals, honestly. Even the Texans could push them.

So the fact that the Ravens annihilated the Texans 31-2 a few weeks ago just goes ignored? Or when the Ravens beat the Bills by 4 scores back in September?

I’m fine if someone wants to argue for the Bills over the Ravens. But you don’t need to say stupid stuff in an attempt to emphasize your point.

And Flowers might play as per Harbaugh earlier today. But even if he doesn’t, they were just fine against the Steelers and Lamar had his highest playoff QBR without his best receiver (though of course, low bar).

DJ's left nut 01-17-2025 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17914197)
Spags have the formula to beat the Ravens and the Bills defense struggled for much of the season. I'd rather play the Raven if I were to choose.

The 'formula' vs the Ravens (and the Bills 6 OL stuff they did against Denver) isn't a formula as much as it's personnel.

Pennell, Bolton and Chenal are one hell of a nasty box to try to run against. And with Reid, Cook, Hicks, McDuffie, Williams and Watson, the back end ain't a dream to run against either. Even a heavy dime group with Hicks likely in the place of Tranquill is going to bring some punch.

Jones has become more disciplined against the run and is a large large man. Karlaftis is stout at the point of attack as is Omenihu (if he's not being too aggressive, just like Jones in that regard).

I mean when we think about our run defense, the only real weakness is Tranquill (and our DT2 when Pennell needs a break). And make no mistake, changing from Gay to Tranquill in that weakside role DOES represent a downgrade. Gay was a guided missile in the run game often going straight into the chest of the lead blocker on a play.

But it shouldn't beat us up too much.

The personnel on this team SHOULD do a lot to bottle up the run game. It's an awfully physical group that never gets the credit it should for being willing to mix it up in the trenches.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17914232)
So the fact that the Ravens annihilated the Texans 31-2 a few weeks ago just goes ignored? Or when the Ravens beat the Bills by 4 scores back in September?

I’m fine if someone wants to argue for the Bills over the Ravens. But you don’t need to say stupid stuff in an attempt to emphasize your point.

And Flowers might play as per Harbaugh earlier today. But even if he doesn’t, they were just fine against the Steelers and Lamar had his highest playoff QBR without his best receiver (though of course, low bar).

Yeah, "no way" is just a wild overstatement.

They could easily beat the Bills.

Most teams haven't had a great deal of success with the contain rush against Allen. I think that's really why Allen's had so much time and so few turnovers.

I'd almost just attack the guy and make sure that when he gets past the LOS, you make him feel it.

Force him out of the comfort zone he's been in all season where contain rushing has given him all day to pick and choose what he wants to do. His clock just hasn't been dialed up enough at any point this year -- make him prove he still has it.

I'm not even sure I'd spy him. I'd just make him feel every one of those carries and see how long he wants to keep getting hit. Don't try to win this thing in the 1st half - make him sit in there at halftime and head back into that cold-ass stadium with the bruises from the 6-8 times he started feeling froggy in the first half.

He's a big guy but there's only one of him and 11 of you. Spread the load and bury his ass.

If he's even the slightest bit tentative at any point in that game, Buffalo loses.

ChiefsHawk 01-17-2025 02:02 PM

Has Watson been officially activated yet?

Tribal Warfare 01-17-2025 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17914253)
Has Watson been officially activated yet?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have officially activated CB Jaylen Watson to the 53-man roster from injured reserve. The team also elevated S Deon Bush and LB Swayze Bozeman from the practice squad via standard elevation. <a href="https://t.co/iZKdkdgURx">pic.twitter.com/iZKdkdgURx</a></p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1880371676325769393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 01-17-2025 06:10 PM

Deon Bush with his always elevated for the playoffs role.

JimNasium 01-17-2025 06:18 PM

I just want to see Jones, or Chenal, or Bolton, or Reid, or anyone get a clean but brutally hard hit on Allen when he decides to tuck and run. I want him to feel the consequences. It never seems to happen though. Dude is as elusive as the Loch Ness Monster.


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