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AdolfOliverBush 08-04-2023 09:37 AM

Offer him $25 million per, plus a midget to carry his trouser snake for him 24/7.

Chief3188 08-04-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 17042717)
Offer him $25 million per, plus a midget to carry his trouser snake for him 24/7.

CEH?

BossChief 08-04-2023 12:59 PM

I’m glad I’m not Veach with this decision.

We could still be dominant without Jones, but it will absolutely be tougher in the playoffs to win without him.

Omenihu, Karlaftis, Benton, Nnadi and Wharton can all play DT…but without Jones, our run defense will take a hit. At least imo.

AdolfOliverBush 08-04-2023 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 17043154)
CEH?

Jones' hanging meat deserves someone more reliable.

penguinz 08-04-2023 01:44 PM

Jones now has more leverage.

wazu 08-04-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17043238)
Jones now has more leverage.

Not really. Jones will be with the team once the season starts. Doubt he's gonna want to just eat his $20M he's set to make. Although him holding OUT instead of holding IN means he may not be getting good advice so who knows.

Mecca 08-04-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17043238)
Jones now has more leverage.

They always knew Omenihu would get suspended...so no he doesn't.

penguinz 08-04-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17043248)
Not really. Jones will be with the team once the season starts. Doubt he's gonna want to just eat his $20M he's set to make. Although him holding OUT instead of holding IN means he may not be getting good advice so who knows.

He has all the leverage. There is no proven DL player for week one without Jones.

penguinz 08-04-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17043251)
They always knew Omenihu would get suspended...so no he doesn't.

They also expected to have Jones deal redone by now as well.

Mecca 08-04-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17043260)
They also expected to have Jones deal redone by now as well.

How does Jones have any leverage?

Yes lets sit out real games and miss game checks and cost myself like 10 million dollars all ensuring that even if I can get to FA next year I'll be 30 and there will be questions about my desire on top of my age.

wazu 08-04-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17043254)
He has all the leverage. There is no proven DL player for week one without Jones.

If he's good with forfeiting north of $1M Week 1 he can really teach the Chiefs a lesson while they win by 14 instead of 20.

Mecca 08-04-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17043271)
If he's good with forfeiting north of $1M Week 1 he can really teach the Chiefs a lesson while they win by 14 instead of 20.

That would also destroy his negotiating power across the league too...

dlphg9 08-04-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17043168)
I’m glad I’m not Veach with this decision.

We could still be dominant without Jones, but it will absolutely be tougher in the playoffs to win without him.

Omenihu, Karlaftis, Benton, Nnadi and Wharton can all play DT…but without Jones, our run defense will take a hit. At least imo.

Yeah we could still be dominant, but I'm not holding my hopes that these guys start playing lights out without a guy getting double teamed 70%+ of the time. I think it'd be very clear how important he is if he were to sit out a few games. I don't think he will, but if they lose him they better be sure these guys can get to the QB without him being in the middle.

dlphg9 08-04-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17043271)
If he's good with forfeiting north of $1M Week 1 he can really teach the Chiefs a lesson while they win by 14 instead of 20.

We won 2 games last year but more than 20 points.

We lost 3 games by 3, 3, 4. The post season games we won were by 7, 3, 3. 10 out of our 17 wins were by 7 points or less. Let's not act like we're blowing teams out. Let's not act like the offense was the reason why we beat the Bengals. It was Chris Jones.

wazu 08-04-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17043312)
We won 2 games last year but more than 20 points.

We lost 3 games by 3, 3, 4. The post season games we won were by 7, 3, 3. 10 out of our 17 wins were by 7 points or less. Let's not act like we're blowing teams out. Let's not act like the offense was the reason why we beat the Bengals. It was Chris Jones.

Don't have to sell me on Jones. He's important, and especially important once we start playing teams with elite QBs in the playoffs. But I do expect our very young team to improve in other areas, and I also think the Lions are being over-hyped. Absolute worst case (barring injury) is a shootout where Mahomes is Mahomes and we win in the final minute.


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