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KCUnited 06-24-2014 01:25 PM

KC needs Hoss Gload to figure it out, I just don't see them making any substantial move for a bat next month.

Three7s 06-24-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10712464)
All of this.

An everyday RF with some pop would be a godsend right now. Keep Dyson as a 4th outfielder and send Aoki packing. Adding another SP does virtually nothing for us this season.

This.

I wish we had gotten Morales and sent Hosmer to AAA. I'd have loved to see his deflating ego if the Royals had made that move.

If we're looking to make a move for a rent-a-player at the trade deadline, I think our best bet would be to go for a guy like Marlon Byrd or Martin Prado. Both would fill gaping holes where bigger production is needed and shouldn't be too hefty in prospects. Of course, I have no idea who we'd give up.

ChiTown 06-24-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10712549)
Forward thinking is the key phrase there. Hosmer isn't Moose, and pretending that their careers have taken similar trajectories is nothing short of disingenuous. With where he is this year, it's likely that Hos' asking price is never going to be lower than it is now.

Small market teams have to take calculated risks when making extensions. Hosmer has shown he has to talent to be an excellent hitter over two full seasons, if there's a time to take a gamble, it'd be now.

Arguing with you is a pointless exercise, in this season alone you have claimed that Cain, Alex, Hos, Moose, Butler, Esky, Dyson, and Infante were all worthless at one point or another. Considering that this composes almost the entirety of our offense, I'm having a difficult time taking the validity of your opinion seriously (I won't even get into your belief that we should platoon Salvy last year).

In your opinion, what sort of yrs/$'s do you think it would take to get Hosmer signed?

Prison Bitch 06-24-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10712549)
Forward thinking is the key phrase there. Hosmer isn't Moose, and pretending that their careers have taken similar trajectories is nothing short of disingenuous. With where he is this year, it's likely that Hos' asking price is never going to be lower than it is now.

Small market teams have to take calculated risks when making extensions. Hosmer has shown he has to talent to be an excellent hitter over two full seasons, if there's a time to take a gamble, it'd be now.

Arguing with you is a pointless exercise, in this season alone you have claimed that Cain, Alex, Hos, Moose, Butler, Esky, Dyson, and Infante were all worthless at one point or another. Considering that this composes almost the entirety of our offense, I'm having a difficult time taking the validity of your opinion seriously (I won't even get into your belief that we should platoon Salvy last year).


Go ahead and cite me bashing all the players you listed this year. Back it up or shut it up. Butler, Moose, Hoz and Infante get bashed but they suck balls no? In any other city real fans would be all over them.

Lol on Perez, the conversation was limiting his playin time and of course I'd sit him more vs RH than LH given his career splits. There is no Kottaras this year so the point is moot anyway. Nobody ever said make him just a 1/2 time player. Besides Brett "1-32" Hayes doesn't even allow an alternative


Finally, i believe Your idea on Hoz is terrible IMO but it could possibly work out, nobody knows the future.

DeepSouth 06-24-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10712583)
Go ahead and cite me bashing all the players you listed this year. Back it up or shut it up. Butler, Moose, Hoz and Infante get bashed but they suck balls no? In any other city real fans would be all over them.

Lol on Perez, the conversation was limiting his playin time and of course I'd sit him more vs RH than LH given his career splits. There is no Kottaras this year so the point is moot anyway. Nobody ever said make him just a 1/2 time player. Besides Brett "1-32" Hayes doesn't even allow an alternative


Finally, i believe Your idea on Hoz is terrible IMO but it could possibly work out, nobody knows the future.

I don't know about Perez's career splits, but for this year, he's batting .308 against RHP and ..211 against LHP. He's one of six Royals that have a substantially better average against RHP vs LHP. That's why they have a much better chance of losing to a good LHP.

Kidd Lex 06-24-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10712005)
You are apparently not aware that Hosmer's agent is Scott Boras. His contract will NOT be a bargain. It would be a franchise killer.

I am, and you must have missed the "relative" part of my comment.

AndChiefs 06-24-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10712630)
I don't know about Perez's career splits, but for this year, he's batting .308 against RHP and ..211 against LHP. He's one of six Royals that have a substantially better average against RHP vs LHP. That's why they have a much better chance of losing to a good LHP.

Career .325 vs. LHP, .289 vs. RHP.

WhawhaWhat 06-24-2014 02:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bruce Chen has been activated. Tim Collins is going to Omaha. And Donnie Joseph was DFA&#39;d.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/481532314573602816">June 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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DeepSouth 06-24-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 10712633)
Career .325 vs. LHP, .289 vs. RHP.

May I ask where you found his career splits? I can't find them.

C3HIEF3S 06-24-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10712654)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bruce Chen has been activated. Tim Collins is going to Omaha. And Donnie Joseph was DFA'd.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/481532314573602816">June 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Awesome.
At least now we have a guy who can make a spot start if needed.

DeepSouth 06-24-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10712663)
Awesome.
At least now we have a guy who can make a spot start if needed.

And long relief if someone (god forbid) gets hurt during their turn.

AndChiefs 06-24-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10712660)
May I ask where you found his career splits? I can't find them.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....ion=C&season=0

ChiefsCountry 06-24-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10712654)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bruce Chen has been activated. Tim Collins is going to Omaha. And Donnie Joseph was DFA'd.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/481532314573602816">June 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Guess the Broxton trade now is a bust with Joseph being DFA.

Archie F. Swin 06-24-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10712396)
The question is if swapping in Samardzija for either Duffy or Ventura really helps the team make the playoffs this year (I broke that down last week in this thread, it is a marginal gain at best, assuming all stay on current track).

I thought you didn't trade an arm for an arm or a bat for a bat. I thought it was one of the other (especially starters)

ChiefsCountry 06-24-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10712677)
I thought you didn't trade an arm for an arm or a bat for a bat. I thought it was one of the other (especially starters)

My philosophy for baseball trades is pitching prospects are baseball currency. I would load the farm up with pitchers and trade them for proven bats.


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