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HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight (Post 8033997)
No, more along the lines of people who came into the city to watch the tournament in person and stayed on the Kansas side. Now that money will all be in the south. By the way.... the KU AD needs to understand the Big 12 is not a midwest conference, it is a southwest conference.

It stretches from Iowa to Texas, that looks pretty "mid" to me. I live in SoCal, and even when I hear "southwest", I think of Arizona and New Mexico before I think of San Diego!

The power of the Big XII Tournament in KC was the ability of KU fans from as far out as Topeka to make a short trip to KC and scalp tickets from other fans because you could almost be assured KU was going to be in the finals. Most of the fans didn't have to stay in KC or had relatives they stayed with. Sure, they'll be some loss, but not to the extent KC, MO will endure. When people came to KC, they stayed downtown.

Look, I love the Tournament in KC. But, I'm not so naive as to not understand why an entire conference won't want to funnel those revenues to a non conference state. I understand KU in KC over the holiday break was a nice treat for its fans, but Lawrence isn't that far away. KC will need to make it worth KU's while to come back. Its sad to say, but its true. Anything else is relying on sentiment for tradition, and we've seen how much that is valued.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8034025)
Don't be going and bringing facts into these internet arguments.

Who cares, its a moot point.

Al Bundy 10-21-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8034071)
It stretches from Iowa to Texas, that looks pretty "mid" to me. I live in SoCal, and even when I hear "southwest", I think of Arizona and New Mexico before I think of San Diego!

The power of the Big XII Tournament in KC was the ability of KU fans from as far out as Topeka to make a short trip to KC and scalp tickets from other fans because you could almost be assured KU was going to be in the finals. Most of the fans didn't have to stay in KC or had relatives they stayed with. Sure, they'll be some loss, but not to the extent KC, MO will endure. When people came to KC, they stayed downtown.

Look, I love the Tournament in KC. But, I'm not so naive as to not understand why an entire conference won't want to funnel those revenues to a non conference state. I understand KU in KC over the holiday break was a nice treat for its fans, but Lawrence isn't that far away. KC will need to make it worth KU's while to come back. Its sad to say, but its true. Anything else is relying on sentiment for tradition, and we've seen how much that is valued.

I was talking about where the conference power lies. It is a Southwest conference. Texas and Oklahoma completely control everything.

Mr. Plow 10-21-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8033733)
You are the only one who claims KC is an exclusive MU market.


ROFL

Not one KU fan has said anything of the sort in this thread.

HemiEd 10-21-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8033272)
They could just put North Dakota St back on the schedule to give them more wins.

If they are booked maybe Western Illinois or Miami of Ohio will be available.

Frazod 10-21-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8034210)
If they are booked maybe Western Illinois or Miami of Ohio will be available.

Well, KU might be able to give Western Illinois a game......

HemiEd 10-21-2011 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8033989)
Almost makes up for all the professional sports benefits Kansans enjoy that are paid for by the residents of Jackson County, doesn't it?

Tim, do you really think all of those "Missouri" pro teams could survive, if they were only supported by Missourians? Really?

As recently as the early 50s, St. Louis was the most western MLB team. My Dad was a fan of the St. Louis Cardinals in the 30s, growing up in NW Kansas. They had half of the U.S. for a territory.

I would guess Kansas Chief fans have paid up pretty well, for all of the fine rewards the Chiefs have bestowed on them the last 40 years. :D

KChiefs1 10-21-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7905727)
Nebraska leaving, kind of changed the whole playing field IMO.

The OU vs Nebraska football rivalry was up there with about any and I think it sucks that it is over.

But, the real mistake was made, back when they let all the Texas schools in, and gave the Longhorns the keys to the conference.

I truly think this is going to be very interesting to see how it plays out.

If Mizzou leaves that's another long-tome rival the Big 8 has lost.

KChiefs1 10-21-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7907508)
I've heard some insiders say the SEC will be the first major conference to 16 teams. Could they add A&M, Mizzou, Florida State and Virginia Tech.

It has never made sense to me that the SEC would not want FSU just because it doesn't add to their footprint. FSU is a powerhouse program and Florida is a huge state for talent, it makes sense to add another big-time program there and lock up the state.

I guess we don't have to about Ann Richards petitioning this time hu

Reaper16 10-22-2011 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8034014)
I think its dangerous to cross collegiate loyalties with professional geographic ones. KC set itself up to be a regional attraction. I know KU fans that can't stand the Chiefs and Kansas based Chiefs fans that can't stand the Jayhawks or Wildcats.

Duh. That's because KU fans act much, much more like Broncos fans than Chiefs fans.

alnorth 10-22-2011 06:48 AM

With the caveat that no one really knows what is going on, if what we are talking about is either Missouri and stop at 10 or WVU, BYU, and Louisville, honestly I'd rather have the latter.

Saul Good 10-22-2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 8035869)
With the caveat that no one really knows what is going on, if what we are talking about is either Missouri and stop at 10 or WVU, BYU, and Louisville, honestly I'd rather have the latter.

If BYU and WVU are in the same conference, your conference is dead before it starts. Neinas was staying because of the geography and culture. That's a 4000 mile round trip. Beyond that, what do West Virginia, Iowa State, BYU, and TCU have in common culturally? They have nothing.

The Kansas schools had better be working on an exit strategy yesterday. I promise you that Texas is not going to want to live on the island of misfit toys for long. LHN is going to flop, Teexas and ESPN will come to an agreement to let it dissolve, and Texas will be in the PAC 3 years from now.

kstater 10-22-2011 07:24 AM

So we've gone from the LHN being this unfair beast of a network that Texas is gonna build up and leave with, to, the LHN is gonna fail, Texas is gonna get out of their unfair contract and leave?

Pablo 10-22-2011 07:39 AM

IS MISSURAH GONE TO THE B1G SEC YET?

kstater 10-22-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8035903)
IS MISSURAH GONE TO THE B1G SEC YET?

Yes, but they're giving KU the privilege to attend a basketball tournament that they're hosting.


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