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lewdog 06-30-2013 10:10 PM

Chris Davis hit his 31st homer tonight. No doubt he is juicing. Props to him.

BigCatDaddy 06-30-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9785658)
Until Duffy/Paulino are ready. He's only really had one bad start in his last five starts. I think he gets a little bit of a bad wrap.

Could be that Hochevaresque ERA 5.55 and War of -1.4 also.

Also from today.

Left-hander Danny Duffy was sensational in his fifth 2013 appearance for the Storm Chasers as he put together his longest outing of the season, limiting the I-Cubs to only three hits in 5.2 innings of work. Duffy has not allowed a run in his last 12.0 innings for the Storm Chasers, and his last two outings since being optioned to Omaha on June 25 have resulted in shutouts.

tk13 06-30-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9785695)
Chris Davis hit his 31st homer tonight. No doubt he is juicing. Props to him.

Machado hit his 38th double too. That's absurd, it's June. Gordon led the entire league last year with 51.

lewdog 06-30-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9785704)
Machado hit his 38th double too. That's absurd, it's June. Gordon led the entire league last year with 51.

Yea he is ****ing insane! Fun player to watch. That doubles mark he has at this point is just absurd.

Prison Bitch 07-01-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9785698)
Could be that Hochevaresque ERA 5.55 and War of -1.4 also..

Fangraphs has him at a 0.9 WAR and a 4.12 XFIP.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...441&position=P

gblowfish 07-01-2013 08:20 AM

I'm on the road today, spent the night in Bentonville, Arkansas. Woke up this morning with this weird urge to cut the Royals payroll to $30 million....

Archie F. Swin 07-01-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9785943)
I'm on the road today, spent the night in Bentonville, Arkansas. Woke up this morning with this weird urge to cut the Royals payroll to $30 million....


lawlz

BigCatDaddy 07-01-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9785936)
Fangraphs has him at a 0.9 WAR and a 4.12 XFIP.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...441&position=P

I got my numbers from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/...957/wade-davis

I'm not sure how a 5.55 ERA, 1.81WHIP, and 328 batting average against is better than replacement level. I'm also pretty sure those numbers justify the "bad rap" he gets.

DeezNutz 07-01-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9785970)
I got my numbers from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/...957/wade-davis

I'm not sure how a 5.55 ERA, 1.81WHIP, and 328 batting average against is better than replacement level. I'm also pretty sure those numbers justify the "bad rap" he gets.

Mellinger called his Wade Davies today on 810, and I'm pretty sure that I'm going to steal that.

The -1.4 WAR is based on Baseball Reference's assessment, which seems far more accurate, given the player's line.

duncan_idaho 07-01-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9785970)
I got my numbers from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/...957/wade-davis

I'm not sure how a 5.55 ERA, 1.81WHIP, and 328 batting average against is better than replacement level. I'm also pretty sure those numbers justify the "bad rap" he gets.

Fangraphs' formula relies heavily on BABIP and FIP, I think. Davis' FIP is much lower than his ERA, and his BABIP is crazily high. So Fangraphs likes him a lot more than Baseball Ref (his K/9 is solid).

I like Baseball Reference's WAR stats for pitchers and Fangraphs WAR stats for position players. Each is screwy for the other stat, IMO.

BigCatDaddy 07-01-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9785977)
Fangraphs' formula relies heavily on BABIP and FIP, I think. Davis' FIP is much lower than his ERA, and his BABIP is crazily high. So Fangraphs likes him a lot more than Baseball Ref (his K/9 is solid).

I like Baseball Reference's WAR stats for pitchers and Fangraphs WAR stats for position players. Each is screwy for the other stat, IMO.

Regardless I think we would be better off with Duffy in the rotation and moving Davis back to the pen to help with Herrera sucking it up this year.

Prison Bitch 07-01-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9785970)
I got my numbers from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/...957/wade-davis

I'm not sure how a 5.55 ERA, 1.81WHIP, and 328 batting average against is better than replacement level. I'm also pretty sure those numbers justify the "bad rap" he gets.


Fangraphs is superior to bbref. Davis has been hurt by bad luck this year. Fangraphs factors "leverage" into the equation and Davis has been unlucky with guys scoring whenever they're on base, whereas Guthrie was lucky in having them all stranded.


Of course as Fangraphs predicts, this is not sustainable and Guthrie's luck ran out this past month as it almost always does.

BigCatDaddy 07-01-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9786008)
Fangraphs is superior to bbref. Davis has been hurt by bad luck this year. Fangraphs factors "leverage" into the equation and Davis has been unlucky with guys scoring whenever they're on base, whereas Guthrie was lucky in having them all stranded.


Of course as Fangraphs predicts, this is not sustainable and Guthrie's luck ran out this past month as it almost always does.

I see. I still don't think good pitchers have an ERA of 5.55 1/2 way through a season. I'd like to see Duffy get a crack at that spot.

Archie F. Swin 07-01-2013 10:00 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...aroStanton.jpg
to dream.....

duncan_idaho 07-01-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9786007)
Regardless I think we would be better off with Duffy in the rotation and moving Davis back to the pen to help with Herrera sucking it up this year.

Yes, if Duffy strings together a few more strong outings at Omaha, I think it's time to slide him into Davis's spot in the rotation.

Of course, there's no guarantee Davis can pitch the same way out of the bullpen that he did last year...


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