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Saul Good 10-21-2011 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8033230)
I could see Mizzou going for that, if only that they know KU will be an ass about it and refuse it, thus absolving MU of any blame whatsoever. No one in their right mind would not blame KU for the rivalry ending if KU turned down a double payday to play MU at Arrowhead.
There is zero chance that Mizzou takes a 1\3 share when its a favor to KU that we even play them.

Trevo_410 10-21-2011 09:15 PM
WVU football is such a great program, They just had a really bad day. If they joined the best conference next year they could easily win against kentucky and vanderbilt for a 2-10 season. Missouri football program is pathetic and the sec would be dumb to pick them over wvu. Who says mizzou's fanbase is bigger than ours? We have some fans in Pittsburgh, DC, and even New York. Not to mention, Missouri already said they'd rather join the big10 over the sec. Anyway, we'll continue playing in our depleted but competitive conference for the rest of the year and maybe end up 1st place. When was the last time mizzou could say they participated in a bcs bowl game?

KcMizzou 10-21-2011 09:16 PM
You have to admit, for a school just looking for attention... we've done a pretty good job.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8033272)
They could just put North Dakota St back on the schedule to give you more wins.
It isn't like we don't need them. Look, I really want KU to get their football program on track. But, do you really think football smack really gets in the way of the obtuse nature of our basketball pride?

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8033321)
You have to admit, for a school just looking for attention... we've done a pretty good job.
Sure, in the midwest. I got back from the DC area today, and nobody there cares.

Pitt Gorilla 10-21-2011 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8033257)
I think you are over simplifying what we're upset about. We're upset that (a) you think so little of the common regional rivalries that you are willing to toss them aside and (b) the impact it has on KC. Its not that we will miss Missouri, its the periphery implications of Missouri leaving. I've been on record saying that I think the conference is stronger with Missouri in it. But, if they don't want to be here, it isn't like its some death blow to the conference. WVU would be an equivalent to Mizzou except for proximity. There's just no way to get around the proximity issue or the importance it gives KC.

Basketball becomes much better in the conference, undoubtedly. It just sucks that KC won't get to host it.
Missouri CLEARLY doesn't want to toss aside the rivalry with KU; I'm not sure they could have been clearer about that point. The conference certainly doesn't make the rivalry.

The impact on KC could be minimal as well. Right now, I'm not sure how anyone would know.

KcMizzou 10-21-2011 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8033358)
Sure, in the midwest. I got back from the DC area today, and nobody there cares.
Were all the girls dancing to Jay Sean?

mnchiefsguy 10-21-2011 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8033257)
I think you are over simplifying what we're upset about. We're upset that (a) you think so little of the common regional rivalries that you are willing to toss them aside and (b) the impact it has on KC. Its not that we will miss Missouri, its the periphery implications of Missouri leaving. I've been on record saying that I think the conference is stronger with Missouri in it. But, if they don't want to be here, it isn't like its some death blow to the conference. WVU would be an equivalent to Mizzou except for proximity. There's just no way to get around the proximity issue or the importance it gives KC.

Basketball becomes much better in the conference, undoubtedly. It just sucks that KC won't get to host it.
You can't have it both ways. If KC is such a KU town, then Mizzou leaving should not negatively impact KC at all, as KU should step up to the plate and use its big basketball weight to keep the tourney here. So, either MU and KU are on more equal footing in the KC metro than you are willing to admit, or Mizzou leaving should not really impact anything at all. Which is it?

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8033370)
Missouri CLEARLY doesn't want to toss aside the rivalry with KU; I'm not sure they could have been clearer about that point. The conference certainly doesn't make the rivalry.

The impact on KC could be minimal as well. Right now, I'm not sure how anyone would know.
How can you say that? For the greatest majority of its existence, it has been a conference game. Most of the truly outstanding rivalries are conference games. Even the OU-Texas rivalry skyrocketed in animosity once it became a conference game.

Like I said, the game, if at Arrowhead, would always be in Missouri. That means the monetary benefits derivative thereof, would also largely go to Missouri. So, if KC really wants to see that game continue even as a non conference affair, it should pay KU more to even out the revenue streams. I mean, if MU is that clear about it, they shouldn't care KU gets paid more for it if that's what it tales to continue it.

Bowser 10-21-2011 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8033423)
Were all the girls dancing to Jay Sean?
LMAO

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8033435)
You can't have it both ways. If KC is such a KU town, then Mizzou leaving should not negatively impact KC at all, as KU should step up to the plate and use its big basketball weight to keep the tourney here. So, either MU and KU are on more equal footing in the KC metro than you are willing to admit, or Mizzou leaving should not really impact anything at all. Which is it?
OK, first of all, I never argued this "KU town" thing, so don't place that in my mouth. Second of all, it isn't about whether or not there are enough KU fans to make the tournament successful (they're absolutely are). The matter is putting conference dollars in a non conference state. That's just bad business, no other conference does that. KC would have to make some enticing offer above the ability to sell the tournament out and its just sad Mizzou has put their own city in that position.

mnchiefsguy 10-21-2011 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8033479)
How can you say that? For the greatest majority of its existence, it has been a conference game. Most of the truly outstanding rivalries are conference games. Even the OU-Texas rivalry skyrocketed in animosity once it became a conference game.

Like I said, the game, if at Arrowhead, would always be in Missouri. That means the monetary benefits derivative thereof, would also largely go to Missouri. So, if KC really wants to see that game continue even as a non conference affair, it should pay KU more to even out the revenue streams. I mean, if MU is that clear about it, they shouldn't care KU gets paid more for it if that's what it tales to continue it.
The bolded part is not true if you are referring to Mizzou. You could argue that it would be true to the state of Missouri itself, but Mizzou would see no more benefit than KU money wise in terms of payout. KU would actual benefit more, since more Mizzou fans buy tickets to Arrowhead anyway...so a 50-50 split of revenue would favor KU since they are filling less than 40% of the seats.

HemiEd 10-21-2011 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8033108)
This is an interesting point; if the league will actually be stronger without Mizzou, why are so many people butthurt over them leaving? It would seem they should be congratulating us on the way out.
Maybe I am mis-reading it, but I don't see anyone butt hurt anymore. I think most of us just want them gone, and lets move on.

I am starting to think Mizzou is enjoying more publicity than the teams have gotten them in quite some time, so they are milking it.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8033554)
The bolded part is not true if you are referring to Mizzou. You could argue that it would be true to the state of Missouri itself, but Mizzou would see no more benefit than KU money wise in terms of payout. KU would actual benefit more, since more Mizzou fans buy tickets to Arrowhead anyway...so a 50-50 split of revenue would favor KU since they are filling less than 40% of the seats.
Of course, the whole argument is why would KU continuously put money into a non Big XII state? Its Missouri's market. We're not talking about having this game on each other's campus, right? We're talking about KC, MO and Arrowhead. Mizzou is the STATE school of Missouri.

Brianfo 10-21-2011 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8033321)
You have to admit, for a school just looking for attention... we've done a pretty good job.
Quote of the year. Shit or get off the pot. That's all anyone is saying.


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