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KcMizzou 10-21-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8032043)
And I have a problem with that. If you've got a deal, jump on it. Quit flirting with the ****ing B1G, and go play football on CBS on Saturdays.

Mizzou's not flirting with anyone. I highly doubt the Big 10 is a factor in this. Mizzou is going to the SEC.

They're just taking their time and doing it properly. (following the advice of the lawyers... and A&M's exit strategy)

dirk digler 10-21-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 8032693)
Won't happen.

why not?

Saul Good 10-21-2011 08:52 PM

Syracuse is beating West Virginia's asses.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8032487)
Whomever they get to replace Mizzou is going to have to be available to play in the league next year, or the Fox Tier 2 TV deal will fall apart. It requires the league to be at ten teams. BYU is the best immediate option, unless they can get Louisville out of the Big East without the 27 month penalty.

Not necessarily. If the TV people are convinced the conference will be expanding and that the product is worth it, they won't void the deal. In fact, if the conference goes back to 12 teams, they would be getting a bargain. TV CAN void the deal if the membership falls below 10, it doesn't mean it automatically does.

Add to that, if the Big XII does pick up three Big East schools, TCU which was going to be in the Big East, and then the two that went to the ACC, there wouldn't technically be a football conference to speak of and the 27 month rule may not even matter.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 8032790)
why not?

I agree it "probably" won't happen. Why would Mizzou take money out of Columbia and take one of their conference home games off their schedule? Of course, its Mizzou, so they might make that move.

Saul Good 10-21-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8032870)
Not necessarily. If the TV people are convinced the conference will be expanding and that the product is worth it, they won't void the deal. In fact, if the conference goes back to 12 teams, they would be getting a bargain. TV CAN void the deal if the membership falls below 10, it doesn't mean it automatically does.

Add to that, if the Big XII does pick up three Big East schools, TCU which was going to be in the Big East, and then the two that went to the ACC, there wouldn't technically be a football conference to speak of and the 27 month rule may not even matter.

I agree. The 27 month thing doesn't seem likely to hold up. It needs to be dealt with, but I don't see it being insurmountable. That said, its going to be hard for the Big XII to try to collect exit fees from Mizzou while replacing them with teams that have 27 month notice requirements.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8032947)
I agree. The 27 month thing doesn't seem likely to hold up. It needs to be dealt with, but I don't see it being insurmountable. That said, its going to be hard for the Big XII to try to collect exit fees from Mizzou while replacing them with teams that have 27 month notice requirements.

I have no idea on what the "difficulty" meter is for lawyers and it really concerns me little. I don't imagine it will be "easy" on either side.

KcMizzou 10-21-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8032896)
I agree it "probably" won't happen. Why would Mizzou take money out of Columbia and take one of their conference home games off their schedule? Of course, its Mizzou, so they might make that move.

Haha!!! Stupid Mizzou.

I agree that probably wont happen.

But I also figure they're smart enough to know it's time to GTFO.

dirk digler 10-21-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8032896)
I agree it "probably" won't happen. Why would Mizzou take money out of Columbia and take one of their conference home games off their schedule? Of course, its Mizzou, so they might make that move.

They do that already with the KU game and I wouldn't suggest doing every year but the first year...definitely.

Florida vs MU at Arrowhead...that would be awesome

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:04 PM

I tell you what, though, if KC offered to pay KU double whatever it was going to give Mizzou to play that game in Arrowhead, then I would do it. None of this equal split stuff, though.

Pitt Gorilla 10-21-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarispider95 (Post 8029423)
What ku or ksu fan that wouldn't trade mizzou for louisville in a heartbeat? Yeah it will add a bit more footprint, but a better college, better facilities, and better town.

Honestly it we can drop Mizzou, get back to 12 with BYU, Louisville, and WVU we will be stronger than at 10 with Mizzou.

This is an interesting point; if the league will actually be stronger without Mizzou, why are so many people butthurt over them leaving? It would seem they should be congratulating us on the way out.

Saul Good 10-21-2011 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 8033055)
I tell you what, though, if KC offered to pay KU double whatever it was going to give Mizzou to play that game in Arrowhead, then I would do it. None of this equal split stuff, though.

Mizzou would go for that. After all, we need a big name on our schedule to supplement the no-names in the SEC.

Saul Good 10-21-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8033108)
This is an interesting point; if the league will actually be stronger without Mizzou, why are so many people butthurt over them leaving? It would seem they should be congratulating us on the way out.

Absolutely. Louisville is a beautiful city. Their academics are stellar. Their football program is strong. They really deliver the huge state of Kentucky because they are the most popular university in the state. The Big XII would be upgrading.

mnchiefsguy 10-21-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8033152)
Mizzou would go for that. After all, we need a big name on our schedule to supplement the no-names in the SEC.

I could see Mizzou going for that, if only that they know KU will be an ass about it and refuse it, thus absolving MU of any blame whatsoever. No one in their right mind would not blame KU for the rivalry ending if KU turned down a double payday to play MU at Arrowhead.

HolyHandgernade 10-21-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8033108)
This is an interesting point; if the league will actually be stronger without Mizzou, why are so many people butthurt over them leaving? It would seem they should be congratulating us on the way out.

I think you are over simplifying what we're upset about. We're upset that (a) you think so little of the common regional rivalries that you are willing to toss them aside and (b) the impact it has on KC. Its not that we will miss Missouri, its the periphery implications of Missouri leaving. I've been on record saying that I think the conference is stronger with Missouri in it. But, if they don't want to be here, it isn't like its some death blow to the conference. WVU would be an equivalent to Mizzou except for proximity. There's just no way to get around the proximity issue or the importance it gives KC.

Basketball becomes much better in the conference, undoubtedly. It just sucks that KC won't get to host it.


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