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alnorth 06-14-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10691919)
McCarthy was the best thing about that fight.

"lets work guys, don't just rest"

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10691922)
OK, thats much, much better. I don't mind a wrestling match when its active and explosive.

Feijao looks lost on the ground.

Brazil's wrestling is pretty terrible.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:20 PM

I don't think Feijao can win a decision. He'll have to finish.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:21 PM

Feijao is going for KO's now, thats exactly what he should be doing, because he's losing on points.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:23 PM

Bader just wants this more. I'll be stunned if he doesn't win.

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:23 PM

Rafael looks absolutely terrible.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:26 PM

Bader's playing it safe and running out the clock, he knows he's winning.

Which is fine, he did plenty of work in the first 2 rounds, its up to the Brazilian to finish as punishment for mailing in the first 2 rounds.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10691938)
Bader's playing it safe and running out the clock, he knows he's winning.

Which is fine, he did plenty of work in the first 2 rounds, its up to the Brazilian to finish as punishment for mailing in the first 2 rounds.

.. and now Bader's doing some work. This is gonna be an easy 30-27

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:29 PM

Any judge which does not score this 30-27 Bader should be publicly executed on the spot.

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10691938)
Bader's playing it safe and running out the clock, he knows he's winning.

Which is fine, he did plenty of work in the first 2 rounds, its up to the Brazilian to finish as punishment for mailing in the first 2 rounds.

Feijao literally did nothing that Black House places an emphasis on teaching that he's done repeatedly throughout his career previously (see King Mo fight).



Hats off to Bader.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:33 PM

The first fight was good, but we havent gotten $45 of entertainment yet. I still have hopes for the main event though, I'm pulling hard for the Russian, I've seen the puncher king fight 3 times.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:48 PM

This is a good fight. I think Rory won the first round, but not sure.

Is this a title eliminator? Its #2 vs #3, is Lawler getting the rematch, or is this winner getting the title shot?

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10691951)
The first fight was good, but we havent gotten $45 of entertainment yet. I still have hopes for the main event though, I'm pulling hard for the Russian, I've seen the puncher king fight 3 times.

I see where your loyalty lies Comrade North.

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:52 PM

Tyron needs to get back to working in his RLK as the 3 and circle off the ****ing fence.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:52 PM

20-18 Rory

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10691987)
I see where your loyalty lies Comrade North.

eh, I was initially skeptical but the spunky little russian won my loyalty, I like how brash and showey he is.

I don't know how realistic it is against mighty mouse, though.

alnorth 06-14-2014 09:56 PM

ok, this fight is basically over, and once again it wasn't terrific.

I'm ready for a show, hopefully the main event delivers.

Sorter 06-14-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10691999)
ok, this fight is basically over, and once again it wasn't terrific.

I'm ready for a show, hopefully the main event delivers.

THis

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 10:01 PM

Who was the poster here that you got all pissy when it appeared they were going to give the next title shot to Rory over Woodley after Condit got hurt?

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:02 PM

http://i.imgur.com/1mooJBT.jpg

VS.

http://e9bbcba794ec60672475-693158ff...-w-478x270.jpg

Lets do this. My loyalty is with the puncher king!

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:12 PM

This fight makes or breaks the card. If its not great, then UFC 174 will be remembered as hot garbage.

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:23 PM

That was close.

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:29 PM

no idea what the score could be. could be 19-19 or 20-18 either way

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10692031)
no idea what the score could be. could be 19-19 or 20-18 either way

Serious? Its 20-18 MM. Not close IMO. Looking like 5-0 sweep unless MM gets the stoppage.

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:36 PM

DJ probably won at least 1 round. 2 others are close.

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10692041)
DJ probably won at least 1 round. 2 others are close.

How do you figure? MM is dominating the striking and all the Russian has is 2 takedowns that last about 5 seconds total. This is an ass whipping.

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10692033)
Serious? Its 20-18 MM. Not close IMO. Looking like 5-0 sweep unless MM gets the stoppage.

The judges are not listening to Joe Rogan's commentary. Ali looked better than what he was suggesting in the first 2 rounds.

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10692044)
How do you figure? MM is dominating the striking and all the Russian has is 2 takedowns that last about 5 seconds total. This is an ass whipping.

Even though he didn't do much with it, Ali's got DJ dominated on control in the first 2 rounds. Its a classic case of what you value: marginal striking or control.

Control is not worth zero if you don't get a submission out of it.

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10692046)
The judges are not listening to Joe Rogan's commentary. Ali looked better than what he was suggesting in the first 2 rounds.

160 to 50 strikes? What are you watching?

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:42 PM

I think DJ clearly won rounds 3 and 4.

The first 2 rounds are a tossup. So, the score is somewhere between a tie, DJ by 2 rounds, or a shutout.

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10692048)
160 to 50 strikes? What are you watching?

I'm not ignoring the wrestling and takedowns.

This is not boxing

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:45 PM

In any event, this is not a good fight.

We did not get $45 worth of entertainment

alnorth 06-14-2014 10:48 PM

DJ won the last 3 rounds, and therefore the fight.

Only question is the score.

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10692058)
DJ won the last 3 rounds, and therefore the fight.

Only question is the score.

50-45 all 3 judges. Sober up and watch it again tomorrow :D

Pants 06-14-2014 11:33 PM

MM dominated that fight start to finish, IMO. He looked untouched in the end. Yeah, he got taken down a couple of times but was right back up within seconds.

The way he took Bagautinov's back was pretty much the scariest thing I have ever seen.

New World Order 06-15-2014 01:30 AM

That was the worst card I have watched since UFC 49.

BigCatDaddy 06-15-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10692140)
That was the worst card I have watched since UFC 49.

It didn't help that the last one so good either, but yeah it was weak on paper and lived up to it.

BigCatDaddy 06-15-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10692051)
I'm not ignoring the wrestling and takedowns.

This is not boxing

Still think it was a close fight? Or are we still thinking all 3 judges, the announcers, and ESPN got it wrong?

"Johnson Defends Title

Flyweight champion Demetrious Johnson dominated every round to earn a victory by unanimous decision over Ali Bagautinov at UFC 174 in Vancouver. Brett Okamoto "

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/11...lyweight-title

New World Order 06-15-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10692051)
I'm not ignoring the wrestling and takedowns.

This is not boxing


Ali had what 2 takedowns that lasted for less than a second?

raybec 4 06-18-2014 07:19 PM

That whole card stunk out loud. Woodley was a huge disappointment and Schaub vs Arlovsky was jusr ****ing terrible.

New World Order 06-18-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10701451)
That whole card stunk out loud. Woodley was a huge disappointment and Schaub vs Arlovsky was jusr ****ing terrible.



Every fight was awful

CoMoChief 06-18-2014 08:47 PM

Andre Arvolsky (sp?) is back in the UFC? What a bum. I haven't watched a fight since Sonnen/Silva II

Dana is desperate for decent fighters in the HW division.

New World Order 06-18-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10701584)
Andre Arvolsky (sp?) is back in the UFC? What a bum. I haven't watched a fight since Sonnen/Silva II

Dana is desperate for decent fighters in the HW division.


HW division is dead. He might as well bring back Mark "The Hammer" Coleman.

BigCatDaddy 06-18-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10701601)
HW division is dead. He might as well bring back Mark "The Hammer" Coleman.

If Cormier ever comes back up that helps out a lot. They would have 4 top level guys with Cain, Santos, Verdum, and Cormier. Then a bunch of 2nd tier guys that just aren't at that level... Bigfoot, Barnett, Overeem.. etc..

New World Order 06-18-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10701620)
If Cormier ever comes back up that helps out a lot. They would have 4 top level guys with Cain, Santos, Verdum, and Cormier. Then a bunch of 2nd tier guys that just aren't at that level... Bigfoot, Barnett, Overeem.. etc..


Cain and Cormier train together.

BigCatDaddy 06-18-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10701667)
Cain and Cormier train together.

I know. just saying he adds tiger division.

alnorth 06-18-2014 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10692495)
Still think it was a close fight? Or are we still thinking all 3 judges, the announcers, and ESPN got it wrong?

"Johnson Defends Title

Flyweight champion Demetrious Johnson dominated every round to earn a victory by unanimous decision over Ali Bagautinov at UFC 174 in Vancouver. Brett Okamoto "

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/11...lyweight-title

OK, I've avoided this long enough.

You were right, I was wrong. In my defense, I was drunk at the time.

Mea Culpa.

raybec 4 06-18-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10701620)
If Cormier ever comes back up that helps out a lot. They would have 4 top level guys with Cain, Santos, Verdum, and Cormier. Then a bunch of 2nd tier guys that just aren't at that level... Bigfoot, Barnett, Overeem.. etc..

The problem is NONE of those guys can compete with Cain. Not if he's healthy.

New World Order 06-19-2014 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10701725)
I know. just saying he adds tiger division.



Absolutely.

New World Order 06-19-2014 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10701814)
The problem is NONE of those guys can compete with Cain. Not if he's healthy.


You don't think Cormier could beat cain?

He has the takedowns to do it.

raybec 4 06-19-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10701860)
You don't think Cormier could beat cain?

He has the takedowns to do it.

DC himself says he can't beat Cain. Cain will go down as the best HW ever.

The Poz 06-22-2014 11:55 AM

My friend (he works with my wife) is now the new welterweight kickboxing champ. He won the title at the Glory 17: Last Man Standing event in L.A. last night.

http://www.mmamania.com/2014/6/19/58...-tv-kickboxing


Joseph Valtellini def Marc de Bonte via unanimous dec (47-46 x 3)

http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Marc_de_...Valtellini.gif

Perineum Ripper 06-22-2014 04:44 PM

What does everyone think about the upcoming Weidman vs Machida

raybec 4 06-26-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 10708640)
What does everyone think about the upcoming Weidman vs Machida

Machida can win a decision if he runs but if Weidman gets him against the cage he's in for a long night.

raybec 4 06-26-2014 09:22 PM

I'm also pretty stoked about the Cub Swanson Jeremey Stevens fight. That should be a brawl.

On another note has anyone ponied up for the fight pass? I can't bring myself to do it.

Sorter 06-26-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 10717821)
Machida can win a decision if he runs but if Weidman gets him against the cage he's in for a long night.

It'll be interesting to see if Lyoto gets back to his parry http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-On6tOryIR0...ivesound01.gif
considering how Chris leaves his RH down when throwing his lead hook. Machida's left right ala Bader also comes into play as well.


Additionally, Lyoto's trips out of over-under/ double under/overs are quite good. His footwork/timing on knees to the body are also something to take into consideration.

Really interested to see how Chris closes distance.

raybec 4 06-27-2014 01:50 PM

No hype yet for the Rousey fight, I think they are quickly running out of quality opponents for her. I guess we'll have to wait for Cyborg to see her get pushed.

salame 06-29-2014 01:59 AM

fight me irl rousey

BigCatDaddy 07-05-2014 10:36 PM

Weidman is a legit bad ass and is only going to get better.

They have to find someone else to face Rousey. Here last 2 fights have been straight ass whippings not worthy of a PPV.

alnorth 07-05-2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10732362)
Weidman is a legit bad ass and is only going to get better.

They have to find someone else to face Rousey. Here last 2 fights have been straight ass whippings not worthy of a PPV.

Fortunately because of the apparent hand injury she took from smashing Davis's face in, the UFC will have time to find someone.

It was funny, I was watching the PPV with a few people who had never seen Rousey fight before, and I was telling them how much of a badass she is compared to the other women (they inexplicably decided, sight unseen, that Rousey was overrated and were pulling for Davis lol), but I wasn't expecting a 16 second knockout.

BigCatDaddy 07-05-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10732373)
Fortunately because of the apparent hand injury she took from smashing Davis's face in, the UFC will have time to find someone.

It was funny, I was watching the PPV with a few people who had never seen Rousey fight before, and I was telling them how much of a badass she is compared to the other women (they inexplicably decided, sight unseen, that Rousey was overrated and were pulling for Davis lol), but I wasn't expecting a 16 second knockout.

I saw them stitching the hand. Was it just a cut or was it a break?

TimBone 07-06-2014 01:07 AM

I'm glad Weidman finally got a win against a top guy that wasn't controversial. The dude deserves it.

Jerm 07-06-2014 05:21 AM

I'll give the UFC credit...they've built Rousey into almost mythical status now with joe casual fan and even some hardcores, it's complete bullshit but genius on their part.

She's the biggest smoke and mirrors act in the UFC in quite some time...maybe ever. They all but handed her the belt to start with and she's fought nobodies or fighters that 100% completely fit her one dimensional style and give her easy opportunities to win. Last nights fight was a frickin joke...anyone with half a brain knew Davis didn't belong in there and would get smashed.

I'd like to see her fight an actual good striker with KO power and range...sadly I don't know if that woman is out there and even if she is, I doubt Dana would sign her because of his unhealthy obsession with RR and wouldn't want to see his cash cow get beat.

I'm not drinking the kool aid...sorry...

alnorth 07-06-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10732430)
I'll give the UFC credit...they've built Rousey into almost mythical status now with joe casual fan and even some hardcores, it's complete bullshit but genius on their part.

She's the biggest smoke and mirrors act in the UFC in quite some time...maybe ever. They all but handed her the belt to start with and she's fought nobodies or fighters that 100% completely fit her one dimensional style and give her easy opportunities to win. Last nights fight was a frickin joke...anyone with half a brain knew Davis didn't belong in there and would get smashed.

I'd like to see her fight an actual good striker with KO power and range...sadly I don't know if that woman is out there and even if she is, I doubt Dana would sign her because of his unhealthy obsession with RR and wouldn't want to see his cash cow get beat.

I'm not drinking the kool aid...sorry...

Your last paragraph pretty much negates everything else you wrote. She has beaten everyone credible they have to throw at her. The only one who ever came close (Tate) they threw at her over and over again. There is no good reason to believe she wont beat Cat (who she would have fought by the way, if not for Cat's injury), Cyborg, or whatever other mythical she-beast you can dream up, either.

As for White wanting to protect Rousey, given his history, we already know thats false. He doesn't protect or put all his chips on any individual fighters, only the UFC brand. Its bad business to bet everything on one person. This isn't boxing, MMA fighters can just randomly lose. He has never cared that much if a champ loses, because he can either promote the new champ, or set up the obligatory instant rematch and sell a zillion PPV buys. If Rousey loses, she'll get an immediate rematch and that PPV would bring in huge $$$ for Zuffa.

edit: Hell, GSP proves this more than anything. He was one of his biggest draws, and after that controversial decision, rather than try to paper over it, he laid into GSP's "win" and trashed one of his biggest money-makers. Then when he went mental and quit, Dana was just like "whatever" and moved on.

Jerm 07-06-2014 11:22 AM

Listen to the shit Dana says about Rousey and tell me he isn't delusional when it comes to RR...

“It was just so explosive and crazy and fast and just, you know, she’s unbelievable,” White said. “She’s a huge superstar, she’s one of the pound-for-pound best fighters in the world, and she’s the most unique athlete that I’ve ever worked with in my whole life in every sense of the word.”

“When you look at the NBA, women play basketball, but everybody sh-ts on it like, ‘Ah, it’s women’s basketball; it’s terrible,’” White said. “This is a chick that could leave this building, walk down the Las Vegas Strip and wreck every guy on the Las Vegas Strip. There’s never been a women in the history of the world that could do that.

“Even back in the day when you had good boxers and everyone was all crazy about Lucia Rijker, you know Lucia Rijker was a women that had to go in there and trade with a man, trade punches with a man. Ronda Rousey might get past a couple of your punches, but once she grabs on to you – I don’t care how big you are, how strong you are – she’s going to drop you on your head.”

LOL he's a blithering moron...shit like this is ridiculous. Not to mention the beyond ridiculous premise that DW and others have thrown out there that Rousey would actually beat Floyd Mayweather in a fight.

He's just doing the same shit with RR as he did with Liddell except taking it to the extreme...the creepy extreme.

BigCatDaddy 07-06-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10732673)
Listen to the shit Dana says about Rousey and tell me he isn't delusional when it comes to RR...

“It was just so explosive and crazy and fast and just, you know, she’s unbelievable,” White said. “She’s a huge superstar, she’s one of the pound-for-pound best fighters in the world, and she’s the most unique athlete that I’ve ever worked with in my whole life in every sense of the word.”

“When you look at the NBA, women play basketball, but everybody sh-ts on it like, ‘Ah, it’s women’s basketball; it’s terrible,’” White said. “This is a chick that could leave this building, walk down the Las Vegas Strip and wreck every guy on the Las Vegas Strip. There’s never been a women in the history of the world that could do that.

“Even back in the day when you had good boxers and everyone was all crazy about Lucia Rijker, you know Lucia Rijker was a women that had to go in there and trade with a man, trade punches with a man. Ronda Rousey might get past a couple of your punches, but once she grabs on to you – I don’t care how big you are, how strong you are – she’s going to drop you on your head.”

LOL he's a blithering moron...shit like this is ridiculous. Not to mention the beyond ridiculous premise that DW and others have thrown out there that Rousey would actually beat Floyd Mayweather in a fight.

He's just doing the same shit with RR as he did with Liddell except taking it to the extreme...the creepy extreme.

The only thing I really disagreed with is that there has never been a woman in the history of the world that could do that. I'm sure there are other trained female fighters that could do the same.

Coochie liquor 07-06-2014 01:37 PM

Not only is RR the baddest ass woman fighter on the planet, she's also the hottest.... Just my opinion! Team Rousey for LIFE!!

DaFace 07-06-2014 01:41 PM

I don't watch MMA except for when my brothers-in-law have the wife and I over for a fight night party, but I can confidently say that Ronda Rousey could easily make me cry like a little bitch. Even her pre-fight facial expression kind of made me want to run and hide.

Coochie liquor 07-06-2014 02:20 PM

Woudl you let Ronda Rousey take a crap on your chest?? It doesn't matter, she will if she wants to!

New World Order 07-06-2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10733019)
Not only is RR the baddest ass woman fighter on the planet, she's also the hottest.... Just my opinion! Team Rousey for LIFE!!


The competition in the women's division is absolutely awful.

Sully 07-06-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10733019)
Not only is RR the baddest ass woman fighter on the planet, she's also the hottest.... Just my opinion! Team Rousey for LIFE!!


Carano is wayyyy hotter.

Katipan 07-06-2014 04:42 PM

The end shot... with RRs boobs bouncing with every fist that landed... Money shot for the UFC.

Coochie liquor 07-06-2014 04:46 PM

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Idk bro. This..

Coochie liquor 07-06-2014 04:47 PM

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Or this...maybe we need a poll??

Jerm 07-06-2014 04:53 PM

Kyra Gracie >>>>>>> all

Bowser 07-06-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10733282)
Kyra Gracie >>>>>>> all

http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/ricard...e-red-nose.jpg

Sully 07-06-2014 07:37 PM

I'm still taking Carano over either of the other two.

alnorth 07-06-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10732673)
Listen to the shit Dana says about Rousey and tell me he isn't delusional when it comes to RR...

“It was just so explosive and crazy and fast and just, you know, she’s unbelievable,” White said. “She’s a huge superstar, she’s one of the pound-for-pound best fighters in the world, and she’s the most unique athlete that I’ve ever worked with in my whole life in every sense of the word.”

“When you look at the NBA, women play basketball, but everybody sh-ts on it like, ‘Ah, it’s women’s basketball; it’s terrible,’” White said. “This is a chick that could leave this building, walk down the Las Vegas Strip and wreck every guy on the Las Vegas Strip. There’s never been a women in the history of the world that could do that.

“Even back in the day when you had good boxers and everyone was all crazy about Lucia Rijker, you know Lucia Rijker was a women that had to go in there and trade with a man, trade punches with a man. Ronda Rousey might get past a couple of your punches, but once she grabs on to you – I don’t care how big you are, how strong you are – she’s going to drop you on your head.”

LOL he's a blithering moron...shit like this is ridiculous. Not to mention the beyond ridiculous premise that DW and others have thrown out there that Rousey would actually beat Floyd Mayweather in a fight.

He's just doing the same shit with RR as he did with Liddell except taking it to the extreme...the creepy extreme.

uhhh, maybe you aren't aware, but some of that stuff regarding being able to wreck a guy off the street is not ridiculous at all. I'll grant you that almost any man who is a trained MMA fighter would probably handle her easily, but if you don't know what you are doing with regard to brazilian ju-jitsu, your size is not going to keep her from choking you out or breaking some bones.

alnorth 07-06-2014 07:56 PM

oh, and for those who didnt see it, Rousey's entire fight with Davis fits in one gif.

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/20...6298.gif?w=650

Jerm 07-06-2014 07:58 PM

Looks almost choreographed lol....


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