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Braincase 09-20-2014 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10929745)
Is this Charlie's last game if they don't win tomorrow?

Your guess is as good as anybodies', but I don't think so.

1. I don't think Dr. Z is a big fan of firing somebody in the middle of the season.
2. You have to pay him anyway, and on some levels he has been good for the team. (grades, discipline)
3. You put in an interrim head coach, likely the OC or DC, and now you've added work to a coach that probably has enough to deal with.

People can blame Weis all they want, but Weis hasn't missed a tackle, a blocking assignment, fumbled a ball or thrown an interception since he arrived at KU. Our lines, O & D, just aren't getting it done. We're not going to improve until we get the horses.

TambaBerry 09-20-2014 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 10930221)
Your guess is as good as anybodies', but I don't think so.

1. I don't think Dr. Z is a big fan of firing somebody in the middle of the season.
2. You have to pay him anyway, and on some levels he has been good for the team. (grades, discipline)
3. You put in an interrim head coach, likely the OC or DC, and now you've added work to a coach that probably has enough to deal with.

People can blame Weis all they want, but Weis hasn't missed a tackle, a blocking assignment, fumbled a ball or thrown an interception since he arrived at KU. Our lines, O & D, just aren't getting it done. We're not going to improve until we get the horses.

Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them. The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

Braincase 09-20-2014 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10930228)
Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them. The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

I disagree on the talent statement. I think every team in the conference is pulling better players. Even when KU can pull a decent player, half the time the kid can't stay eligible (Dreamius Smith, Trayvon Wrench). The biggest mistake that KU made (Gill) was letting our strength and conditioning coach go, and he immediately ended up at KSU. The new coach is solid (Holsopple), but it takes a couple of years before things can get dialed in.

As long as Kansas is replacing coaches every 2 or 3 years, nothing is going to change.

Bambi 09-20-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 10930264)
I disagree on the talent statement. I think every team in the conference is pulling better players. Even when KU can pull a decent player, half the time the kid can't stay eligible (Dreamius Smith, Trayvon Wrench). The biggest mistake that KU made (Gill) was letting our strength and conditioning coach go, and he immediately ended up at KSU. The new coach is solid (Holsopple), but it takes a couple of years before things can get dialed in.

As long as Kansas is replacing coaches every 2 or 3 years, nothing is going to change.

People are going to feel a lot better with a solid win today. There's no reason not to over the team they're playing.

If it's some 17-14 sloppy win I think then we're looking at worst case scenario.

TambaBerry 09-20-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 10930264)
I disagree on the talent statement. I think every team in the conference is pulling better players. Even when KU can pull a decent player, half the time the kid can't stay eligible (Dreamius Smith, Trayvon Wrench). The biggest mistake that KU made (Gill) was letting our strength and conditioning coach go, and he immediately ended up at KSU. The new coach is solid (Holsopple), but it takes a couple of years before things can get dialed in.

As long as Kansas is replacing coaches every 2 or 3 years, nothing is going to change.

Now I know this is just class rankings but we have consistently if not better than equal to kstates recruiting classes. It's the way they're coached up. I mean like how Weis did recruiting at Notre Dame. He did nothing with his own guys but another coach comes in and takes them to a national championship.

Weis is just not a good coach for college. Look at Florida and their offense with the talent they have. Weis was just a bad hire overall. Zenger tried to go with a quick fix instead of a solid coach who he could build upon. It just so happened that it backfired. I don't hate Zenger for that. It's time to move on from Weis and find some young gun to build around.

Braincase 09-20-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10930317)
Now I know this is just class rankings but we have consistently if not better than equal to kstates recruiting classes. It's the way they're coached up. I mean like how Weis did recruiting at Notre Dame. He did nothing with his own guys but another coach comes in and takes them to a national championship.

Weis is just not a good coach for college. Look at Florida and their offense with the talent they have. Weis was just a bad hire overall. Zenger tried to go with a quick fix instead of a solid coach who he could build upon. It just so happened that it backfired. I don't hate Zenger for that. It's time to move on from Weis and find some young gun to build around.

I know where you're coming from. We both want the same thing... a competitive KU football team.

TambaBerry 09-20-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 10930404)
I know where you're coming from. We both want the same thing... a competitive KU football team.

Yup, Lew Perkins still pisses me off.

WilliamTheIrish 09-20-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10930228)
Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them. The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.

KU fans tend to overrate their football recruits. And Their football coaches too.

KSU fans tend to underrate their recruits. And their coaches too. Including Snydz.

Prison Bitch 09-20-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10930513)
KU fans tend to overrate their football recruits. And Their football coaches too.

KSU fans tend to underrate their recruits. And their coaches too. Including Snydz.

Congrats on the dumbest post I've seen here in probably 6 months. You really ratcheted up the Tard level on that one.

WilliamTheIrish 09-20-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10930520)
Congrats on the dumbest post I've seen here in probably 6 months. You really ratcheted up the Tard level on that one.

Its true.

Prison Bitch 09-20-2014 11:24 AM

In your mind, I'm absolutely sure it is.

WilliamTheIrish 09-20-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10930548)
In your mind, I'm absolutely sure it is.

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Originally Posted by dingleberry
Our team is poorly coached and never ready for the game. Look at kstate talent wise our players are even with them.The difference is Snyder gets his guys prepared to play and coaches them into better football players.
The "even talent" talking point is very common among the phogistanis. It's untrue and yet it just rolls on. Although BC did disagree today.

And the coaching hire of Charlie Weiss by 'Sirhan'**Zulu was celebrated with images of all those SB rings here at CP. The QB's Charlie transcruited? 5* diamonds.


*Sirhan.. Credit to you for that PB.

ArrowheadHawk 09-20-2014 12:28 PM

The talent may not be even but their is no reason it shouldn't be. KSU doesn't have any recruiting advantages over us besides coaching and that can be fixed.

Braincase 09-20-2014 01:44 PM

Nice start! 74 yard TD run by Pierson to start the game!

Braincase 09-20-2014 01:48 PM

Ground can't cause a fumble. Gotta be overturned.


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